Comparison two PCs

[Charlie Sebastian]

Two PCs

 

1st: 

i5 8400

msi z370 pro

zotac1070 amp extreme edition, 240 gb Samsung ssd

1 tb wd hdd

550 evga smps

furyx 8 gb ram

1080p acer monitor

 

2nd: 

R5 1600

Gigabyte b350

Rest of the parts are same.

 

Which one will perform better?

Suggest me If there is any better option for 1080p gaming+streaming setup.

[Jurrunio]

1080p 60hz monitor?

 

frequency of memory?

 

model name of PSU?

[martward]

How much streaming will you do? My understanding is that the Ryzen should be better if you are planning to stream, since it has SMT so 12 threads in total, whereas the i5 has 6 threads due to the lack of Hyperthreading.

If you are planning to game and stream from the same PC then I guess the Ryzen would be better.

[theklax]

I don't mean to be a dick but did you think to Google it?

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3939vs3919

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3536592/8400-ryzen-1600.html

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1514-core-i5-8400-vs-overclocked-ryzen-5-1600/

 

 

 

 

 

 

[theklax]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1080p 60hz monitor?

 

frequency of memory?

 

model name of PSU?

I'm not sure what the frequency of memory or the model of PSU has to do with the performance of two CPUs.....

[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, theklax said:

I'm not sure what the frequency of memory or the model of PSU has to do with the performance of two CPUs.....

Comparing CPUs directly is what reviewers or Google does. What I do is give recommendations on the entire system.

[mariushm]

Leaning towards Ryzen 1600 because at least you can overclock it, while the 8400 won't overclock. The B350 motherboards should also be cheaper (but you may want to pay a bit more for 3000 or 3200 Mhz memory ) and it may be worth spending 10-15$ more on the power supply to get something higher quality than evga bronze efficiency power supplies

 

Streaming ... the processor only matters if you're actually going to stream by encoding the video with your processor.  Since you have a video card with a hardware video encoder, you're more likely to use that hardware encoder to stream, so the processor will only be busy encoding the audio and "uploading" the video frames into the video card... basically 1-5% of cpu will be used for encoding and streaming, so the processor choice won't matter.

 

[theklax]

16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Comparing CPUs directly is what reviewers or Google does. What I do is give recommendations on the entire system.

Okay, I'll bite.

 

1. The post is directly asking for a comparison between two systems that differ functionally only in their CPU configuration.

2. If you cared about about recommending him an entire system, wouldn't you have been the one to give HIM a recommendation on memory frequency and/or PSU brand??

 

Now what your post DID do was contribute to the spread of misinformation so prevalent on the Internet, that those specs would even be relevant to a question such as OP's.

 

So for that, thanks.

 

[Jurrunio]

18 minutes ago, theklax said:

1. The post is directly asking for a comparison between two systems that differ functionally only in their CPU configuration.

You, @martward and later @mariushm gave the answer so I need not repeat.

 

20 minutes ago, theklax said:

2. If you cared about about recommending him an entire system, wouldn't you have been the one to give HIM a recommendation on memory frequency and/or PSU brand??

I dont have to recommend stuff if what OP picked are actually good. That's why I need to know more. Besides, he said this:

1 hour ago, Charlie Sebastian said:

Suggest me If there is any better option for 1080p gaming+streaming setup.

That's why I need to get into the details. In fact I havent asked enough, like his budget, what games he expect the system to run, at what resolution and frame rates he streams at, or even software used for streaming.

 

28 minutes ago, theklax said:

Now what your post DID do was contribute to the spread of misinformation so prevalent on the Internet, that those specs would even be relevant to a question such as OP's.

It doesnt affect the comparison of the two PCs, but it will affect user experience. Again, I'm not answering the question on 'which CPU is faster' because someone answered that before me. What I do care is which one is more suitable for OP.

37 minutes ago, theklax said:

Okay, I'll bite.

Be careful not to bite more than you can chew

[Charlie Sebastian]

4 hours ago, martward said:

How much streaming will you do? My understanding is that the Ryzen should be better if you are planning to stream, since it has SMT so 12 threads in total, whereas the i5 has 6 threads due to the lack of Hyperthreading.

If you are planning to game and stream from the same PC then I guess the Ryzen would be better.

Thanks

[Charlie Sebastian]

4 hours ago, mariushm said:

Leaning towards Ryzen 1600 because at least you can overclock it, while the 8400 won't overclock. The B350 motherboards should also be cheaper (but you may want to pay a bit more for 3000 or 3200 Mhz memory ) and it may be worth spending 10-15$ more on the power supply to get something higher quality than evga bronze efficiency power supplies

 

Streaming ... the processor only matters if you're actually going to stream by encoding the video with your processor.  Since you have a video card with a hardware video encoder, you're more likely to use that hardware encoder to stream, so the processor will only be busy encoding the audio and "uploading" the video frames into the video card... basically 1-5% of cpu will be used for encoding and streaming, so the processor choice won't matter.

 

I am a bit of intel lover. So i want to go for i5 8400 and z series mobo for future proofing to overclock.

*Tell me one thing that will gtx 1070 bottleneck the i5 8400 or vice versa while streaming+gaming at the same time.

[theklax]

21 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

You, @martward and later @mariushm gave the answer so I need not repeat.

 

I dont have to recommend stuff if what OP picked are actually good. That's why I need to know more. Besides, he said this:

That's why I need to get into the details. In fact I havent asked enough, like his budget, what games he expect the system to run, at what resolution and frame rates he streams at, or even software used for streaming.

 

It doesnt affect the comparison of the two PCs, but it will affect user experience. Again, I'm not answering the question on 'which CPU is faster' because someone answered that before me. What I do care is which one is more suitable for OP.

Be careful not to bite more than you can chew

Rather than trying to argue you with you, which would obviously be an exercise in futility, I'll instead leave you with a  potential use case.

 

OP abandons this thread right after your first post and this thread dies. A would-be newbie PC builder joins this forum and searches for the phase "comparison i5 8400 and Ryzen 1600" - They stumble upon this thread in their search results. They see your post, having previously understood that the PSU model / RAM frequency plays little bearing bearing on the functional performance of a regular gaming PC.

 

Congratulations, you've just confused/overwhelmed and potentially lost a member of this great community of ours. The words you say don't exist within a bubble and you'd do well to remember that going forward.

 

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, theklax said:

They see your post, having previously understood that the PSU model / RAM frequency plays little bearing bearing on the functional performance of a regular gaming PC.

That's wrong. Performing consistently also matters, in which you need a good PSU to guarantee that. RAM frequency is known to hit Ryzen performance particularly hard compared to 8th gen, so that's something to consider as well.

 

1 hour ago, theklax said:

confused/overwhelmed and potentially lost a member of this great community of ours

If they are puzzled then they should start a new thread and ask more. Giving up so early isnt what most people do, especially in the forums in which anyone can create an account for free and start posting.

 

1 hour ago, theklax said:

OP abandons this thread right after your first post and this thread dies

That didnt happen

 

1 hour ago, theklax said:

Rather than trying to argue with you, which would obviously be an exercise in futility

That's what I should say, not you