Intel Vs AMD for Video Production?

[CrazyMike]

Hey,

 

Was wondering if you guys could help me out. I am trying to figure out if Intel or AMD is best for video editng and rendering. Better in the sense will handle the load better, faster and such. I have only had Intel processors and i feel that they handle heavy loads very well, but wanting your opinions if AMD can do as such.

 

I am trying to build a buddy a rig for a low price. He is trying to have a PC to video edit on. Some AMD processors i was looking at were: A8-6600k, A10-6800k, FX-8320 and the FX-8350. The FX-8350 seems like a beast, just wondering how it would perform for video rendering.

For Intel processors, i have no clue which ones to look at. I was curious about the i5 4570, but i am in love with the i7's so my opinion is biased.

 

If any of you can help me out with some comparable choices and opinions that would be awesome.

 

Thanks

[TeKNiQue]

AMD for budget builds. The 8350 is excellent. Intel for high-end builds.

[CrazyMike]

AMD for budget builds. The 8350 is excellent. Intel for high-end builds.

This I know.

 

Do you have any idea how AMD will perform with video editing and rendering? will it be as fast, stable as Intel? Do you have any comparable suggestions to the FX8350? or how about the FX8320?

[TeKNiQue]

This I know.

 

Do you have any idea how AMD will perform with video editing and rendering? will it be as fast, stable as Intel? Do you have any comparable suggestions to the FX8350? or how about the FX8320?

The 8350 or 8320 will perform very good with video editing and rendering. 4770k is better, but for the price, you get a lot of performance. 

 

Here's a comparison of the 8350 and 8320: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/308/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_AMD_FX-Series_FX-8350.html

[MbV93]

Pistol, the main editor for Tek Syndicate uses an FX-8350, that should tell you something. It's great for video editing and rendering.

[tedjani]

if you got the money for the 4770K will get it but if you are in a budget then get the fx 8350 they both great cpus and they will do what ever you want

[CrazyMike]

if you got the money for the 4770K will get it but if you are in a budget then get the fx 8350 they both great cpus and they will do what ever you want

 

 

Pistol, the main editor for Tek Syndicate uses an FX-8350, that should tell you something. It's great for video editing and rendering.

These are great suggestions, but I am trying to keep the price at low. I am guessing that the FX 8350 is equivalent to the 4770k. Now the question is how about a lower price range? Like mentioned - A10 6800k or the A8 6600k? ir what ever is equivilent in Intel.

 

You made a good point, I forgot that Pistol used AMD for video editing. It must do just as good as Intel.

[Demonking]

FX 8350 if you can't afford the I7 4770K.

[CrazyMike]

I am wondering if anyone actually reads what i type. Seems as if people just read the headline and respond from that.

[Demonking]

for a lower price get the FX 6300 cause those AMD APU's are not gonna handle video editing has well as an I7 or FX 6300 8320 or 8350. plus you'll want faster ram  which isn't cheap thses days for those APU's

[CrazyMike]

for a lower price get the FX 6300 cause those AMD APU's are not gonna handle video editing has well as an I7 or FX 6300 8320 or 8350. plus you'll want faster ram  which isn't cheap thses days for those APU's

thank you for the suggestion

[brob]

I am wondering if anyone actually reads what i type. Seems as if people just read the headline and respond from that.

 

You haven't been terribly specific about what constitutes "low price". Nor is it clear if the machine will be used for anything other than video editing. Context is important.

 

That said, for lightly loaded Intel builds doing fairly simply work an i5-4xxx is fine. Heavier loads and/or more complex projects benefit from an i7. Dedicated enthusiast/professional use stations should look at LGA2011 cpu, i7-4820 and above.

[Kamina]

FX 8350 if you're on a budget, i7 4770k if you're okay with spending extra money.

 

And if you want more speed, get an Ivybridge-E processor. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116938

Is it worth the price? That really depends on your needs and budget.

[CrazyMike]

You haven't been terribly specific about what constitutes "low price". Nor is it clear if the machine will be used for anything other than video editing. Context is important.

 

That said, for lightly loaded Intel builds doing fairly simply work an i5-4xxx is fine. Heavier loads and/or more complex projects benefit from an i7. Dedicated enthusiast/professional use stations should look at LGA2011 cpu, i7-4820 and above.

Correct i didn't really specify a price or what constitutes "low price".  Although in a comment earlier I stated:

These are great suggestions, but I am trying to keep the price at low. I am guessing that the FX 8350 is equivalent to the 4770k. Now the question is how about a lower price range? Like mentioned - A10 6800k or the A8 6600k? ir what ever is equivilent in Intel.

 

You made a good point, I forgot that Pistol used AMD for video editing. It must do just as good as Intel.

Given that the suggestion given (appriciated but all the same) is either FX8350 or the 4770K is why i wonder if people just read the topic.

 

As for describing what the rig will be used for, i stated video editing. Maybe i should have stated "Video editing and nothing more", my appologies.

 

The main concern was if AMD would handle video editing as good as Intel. As stated by another person:

 

Pistol, the main editor for Tek Syndicate uses an FX-8350, that should tell you something. It's great for video editing and rendering.

Which tells me that yes AMD can handle video editing. Now I am trying to figure out how "low" (price and model wise) of a processor i can go before the machine won't be able to edit and render video "as good" (Meaning unbearable speed and how hard it hits the CPU) as a higher up CPU.

[Mindtrickz]

Intel 's i5 and i7 are pretty much ahead of anything AMD has to offer. That includes video production work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Check out the benchmarks yourself:

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/679-intel-haswell-core-i7-4770k/page10.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/4

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4770k_review,15.html

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ivy-Bridge-E-Intel-Core-i7-4960X-Processor-Review/Rendering-and-Scientific

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2013/-35-Adobe-After-Effects-CS6,3170.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2013/-03-Blender,3162.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2013/-02-Cinebench-11.5,3143.html

 

Intel is the way to go, unless you're on a budget.

[TechFan@ic]

The 8350 is equal to Intel's i7 3770K in rendering, editing, compressing, decompressing, encoding & decoding.
The 4770K is about 8% faster than the 3770K which makes it about 8% faster than the 8350 in these tasks.

 

The FX 8320 is an underclocked 8350 at a much lower price point, so it remains a very attractive option.
The FX 6300 is equal to an i5 2500k/3470/4440 in these same tasks, but it's significantly cheaper and can be overclocked for additional performance gains.
Below the $110 price target for the FX 6300 and you will start getting a bad value in terms of price/performance.

The 6800K & 6600K don't support HSA unlike the upcoming 7850K & 7770K parts so I can't really recommend them.

[CrazyMike]

Intel 's i5 and i7 pretty much ahead of anything AMD has to offer. That includes video production work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Check out the benchmarks yourself:

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/679-intel-haswell-core-i7-4770k/page10.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/4

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4770k_review,15.html

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ivy-Bridge-E-Intel-Core-i7-4960X-Processor-Review/Rendering-and-Scientific

 

Intel is the way to go.

 

 

The 8350 is equal to Intel's i7 3770K in rendering, editing, compressing, decompressing, encoding & decoding.

The 4770K is about 8% faster than the 3770K which makes it about 8% faster than the 8350 in these tasks.

 

The FX 8320 is an underclocked 8350 at a much lower price point, so it remains a very attractive option.

The FX 6300 is equal to an i5 2500k/3470/4440 in these same tasks, but it's significantly cheaper and can be overclocked for additional performance gains.

Below the $110 price target for the FX 6300 and you will start getting a bad value in terms of price/performance.

The 6800K & 6600K don't support HSA unlike the upcoming 7850K & 7770K parts so I can't really recommend them.

 

Thank you two so much.. this is EXACTLY what i was looking for. The charts help out tons, especially the "Video Master Works". As well as TechFan@ic's recommendation.. thank you both.

[TERAFLOP]

The i7 4770K is anywhere from 5-10% faster than the 3770K.
Rendering performance :

 

Decompression :


Video Transcoding :

[brob]

. . .

The FX 6300 is equal to an i5 2500k/3470/4440 in these same tasks, but it's significantly cheaper and can be overclocked for additional performance gains.

. . .

 

This is a fatuous argument, as if an i5-2500K cannot be overclocked. If memory serves, a 2500K is actually a better overclocking chip than a 6300.

 

No argument that the FX-6300 is less expensive. It is so for a reason.

[TechFan@ic]

Thank you two so much.. this is EXACTLY what i was looking for. The charts help out tons, especially the "Video Master Works". As well as TechFan@ic's recommendation.. thank you both.

The charts listed by Mindtrickz are misleading since they're all single threaded and no one uses the single threaded render options of the software because it's significantly slower.

The 8350 is as fast as the 3770K in handbrake NOT slower than a 2500K

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-review,3521-17.html

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-review,3521-14.html

[TechFan@ic]

This is a fatuous argument, as if an i5-2500K cannot be overclocked. If memory serves, a 2500K is actually a better overclocking chip than a 6300.

 

No argument that the FX-6300 is less expensive. It is so for a reason.

No it's not because the 2500K has been discontinued and the modern equivalent is the 4670K which is twice as expensive as the FX 6300

[Katness Everdeen]

Those charts can't be right, my 8350 is significantly faster than my 4670K in rendering and encoding.
I use Sony Vegas Pro.

[brob]

No it's not because the 2500K has been discontinued and the modern equivalent is the 4670K which is twice as expensive as the FX 6300

 

Are you suggesting that the 4670K is less powerful than the 2500K? Or are you suggesting that it doesn't overclock? Because I fail to see how a lower performing cpu is a better choice just because it is less expensive.

[brob]

Those charts can't be right, my 8350 is significantly faster than my 4670K in rendering and encoding.

I use Sony Vegas Pro.

 

Are you using cpu or gpu rendering?

[CrazyMike]

Are you using cpu or gpu rendering?

GPU rendering?

 

Are you talking about using cuda cores? If so, is this limited to specific programs?