will i5-4440 3.1ghz bottleneck MSI GTX 1060 6GB

[dragonhart6505]

7 minutes ago, Subtle Corruption said:

Phenom II is way behind even the OP's 4440, time to upgrade unless you are happy.

Lol, yea I mentioned that in my comment. Looking forward to Christmas, birthday (shortly after) or tax time for an overhaul. Even still the RX 460 won't do too much better than it currently is, maybe a 10fps difference, so that'll need replaced at some point too. Only upgrades to the system since it's birth was the RX 460 (from dual 1gb HD 5770s) and a new cooler (Zalman Performa) for better Overclocking. 4ghz stable play!? I'll take it. Cheap, but effective.

I'm perfectly happy with >30fps at usually high details 1080p in what I primarily play. Even streaming and recording at 720p/60 - 1080p/30 isn't a terrible ask depending on the title. A few titles hiccup for a quick second before resuming normal play but all in all I don't complain. I play mostly older titles because I know the systems limits. Alien Isolation, Shadow of Mordor, RotTR, GTAV get solid console-like frames on High. Unlike a console though they look as they were intended.

[Subtle Corruption]

Just now, dragonhart6505 said:

Lol, yea I mentioned that in my comment. Looking forward to Christmas, birthday (shortly after) or tax time for an overhaul. Even still the RX 460 won't do too much better than it currently is, maybe a 10fps difference, so that'll need replaced at some point too. Only upgrades to the system since it's birth was the RX 460 (from dual 1gb HD 5770s) and a new cooler (Zalman Performa) for better Overclocking. 4ghz stable play!? I'll take it. Cheap, but effective.

I'm perfectly happy with >30fps at usually high details 1080p in what I primarily play. Even streaming and recording at 720p/60 - 1080p/30 isn't a terrible ask depending on the title. A few titles hiccup for a quick second before resuming normal play but all in all I don't complain. I play mostly older titles because I know the systems limits. Alien Isolation, Shadow of Mordor, RotTR, GTAV get solid console-like frames on High. Unlike a console though they look as they were intended.

Stop comparing to consoles, it's neither good for your self or others to keep tacking on that you have better this or that over consoles, gamers in general are just immature ass hats.

 

Actually i will make a separate thread for what i want to say, not a dig at you, but glad you are happy

[dragonhart6505]

4 minutes ago, Subtle Corruption said:

Stop comparing to consoles, it's neither good for your self or others to keep tacking on that you have better this or that over consoles, gamers in general are just immature ass hats.

 

Actually i will make a separate thread for what i want to say, not a dig at you, but glad you are happy

Lmao not my intention to compare so I'll take down that note. Actually my first or second offense round here honestly. I'm used to my friends yapping on about their XbOne or PS4. When they saw what my system of choice could do they ask how they can get one and how it'll compare. 

 

Were real nerds talking about real hardware

[faziten]

4 hours ago, Ruzis0 said:

How on more better resolution it wont bottleneck but on 1080p it will, that doesnt make sence?

sense? i don't know if it makes sense or not to you now, try again 5 minutes later after reading this:

 

Lower resolution mean GPU can output more frames per second. (more FPS). Every frame per second is commanded by the CPU so your CPU need to work harder if your GPU can output more FPS.

Higer resolution mean lower FPS which translates to less work for the CPU too.

 

Does it make sense now? Because that's how it works.

[Ruzis0]

Thanks for answers guys, you been very helpful

[Ruzis0]

On 11/30/2017 at 1:19 AM, faziten said:

sense? i don't know if it makes sense or not to you now, try again 5 minutes later after reading this:

 

Lower resolution mean GPU can output more frames per second. (more FPS). Every frame per second is commanded by the CPU so your CPU need to work harder if your GPU can output more FPS.

Higer resolution mean lower FPS which translates to less work for the CPU too.

 

Does it make sense now? Because that's how it works.

Yeah now that makes sense thanks

[dragonhart6505]

On 11/29/2017 at 6:19 PM, faziten said:

sense? i don't know if it makes sense or not to you now, try again 5 minutes later after reading this:

 

Lower resolution mean GPU can output more frames per second. (more FPS). Every frame per second is commanded by the CPU so your CPU need to work harder if your GPU can output more FPS.

Higer resolution mean lower FPS which translates to less work for the CPU too.

 

Does it make sense now? Because that's how it works.

So basically what you're saying is more GPU workload (high resolution/textures) = less CPU stress = STABLE framerates; more CPU load (lower resolution/textures) = less GPU stress = STUTTERING/LAG/frame loss? That's what I've been noticing from my setup (Phenom II 955/RX 460)

Hell, some games I'll even throw it to 1440p for fun. Surprisingly even GTAV doesn't seem to mind. Batman Arkham Asylum I have to play at 1440p/Max or else it's sometimes jittery during combat. Stays around 60fps. Obviously the 460 is not meant for 1440p gameplay but if it works I still ain't complaining

[SlipperyPete]

On 11/28/2017 at 4:06 PM, TurbulentWinds said:

The i5 4440 is a very good chip and will not bottleneck more than a few frames even if you had a 1070

this is just not true. take it from someone who has a gtx 1070 and an i5 4460. there IS a bottleneck

[TurbulentWinds]

5 hours ago, SlipperyPete said:

this is just not true. take it from someone who has a gtx 1070 and an i5 4460. there IS a bottleneck

Yes, there is a bottleneck. Will it be so significant that your money would be better spent on the CPU instead of a better GPU? Probably not. I would love to see some numbers though if you can post some usage and framerates in games at 1080p 60hz.

[SlipperyPete]

11 hours ago, TurbulentWinds said:

Yes, there is a bottleneck. Will it be so significant that your money would be better spent on the CPU instead of a better GPU? Probably not. I would love to see some numbers though if you can post some usage and framerates in games at 1080p 60hz.

i play at 2560x1080 so benchmarks are weird and only apply to other ultrawide users. i will still do it if you have a suggestion on how to do it easily. normally i just live monitor it on my second monitor but that isnt super precise or easy to convey 

[xg32]

On 11/28/2017 at 12:41 PM, Ruzis0 said:

Will my i5-4440 3.1 ghz bottleneck MSI GTX 1060 6gb ?

I had to oc my 2600k to 4.5ghz for a gtx 970 for certain games (this was 2 years ago), altho in most games you'll be fine. That's just my experience though.

[TurbulentWinds]

12 hours ago, SlipperyPete said:

i play at 2560x1080 so benchmarks are weird and only apply to other ultrawide users. i will still do it if you have a suggestion on how to do it easily. normally i just live monitor it on my second monitor but that isnt super precise or easy to convey 

Maybe you can set the game to use only the standard 1080p aspect ratio?

[SlipperyPete]

2 hours ago, TurbulentWinds said:

Maybe you can set the game to use only the standard 1080p aspect ratio?

i could but why would i want to play games at a lower resolution?

[TurbulentWinds]

22 hours ago, SlipperyPete said:

i could but why would i want to play games at a lower resolution?

You asked how you could give us benchmarks that apply to standard 1080p. My solution is to run the benchmarks at standard 1080p to show that the 1070 is severely bottlenecked by the i5-4460.

[SlipperyPete]

58 minutes ago, TurbulentWinds said:

You asked how you could give us benchmarks that apply to standard 1080p. My solution is to run the benchmarks at standard 1080p to show that the 1070 is severely bottlenecked by the i5-4460.

oh ok im sorry. i misunderstood