Friends New PC Plan.

[TheUncannyScrub]

Friends getting into PC gaming, He has a healthy budget of £1100 +/- a bit if something is much better. He sent me this, I don't know much since I haven't kept up with recent technology. Here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DbmJjc Any advice would be nice.,,

[Cyracus]

looks fine except the psu, this should be much better if I know how to read the psu tier list https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4kKhP6/be-quiet-pure-power-10-500w-80-silver-certified-atx-power-supply-bn273

 

[Shreyas1]

probably try to go with an i5 8400 instead of an i5 7600k

 

Also get a better PSU

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BZ42pb

[Herman Mcpootis]

ram's out of stock, get a ryzen 1600 instead of the 7600k and get a better PSU.

[seon123]

There's no reason to get the 7600K. The 8100 performs about the same, and the 8350K should outperform it. The 8400 outperforms it by a significant margin, and the Ryzen 1600 performs about the same, with generally better minimums. 

The GPU has the wrong price on PCPP. PCPP does that with Amazon prices, for whatever reason.

That's an absolute horrible PSU. 

I'll try to make a list. 

 

To lower the cost, he could get a cheaper case, and there are cheaper 1080 versions. The 1070 Ti is also an option. There are some decent, cheaper PSUs, like the Pure Power 10, CX/M and TXM.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (£173.67 @ BT Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£129.99 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.79 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X+ 8G Video Card  (£489.97 @ Novatech) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  (£51.95 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£78.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1182.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-26 00:45 GMT+0000

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (£173.67 @ BT Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£99.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.79 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini Video Card  (£467.99 @ Novatech) 
Case: Game Max - FALCON WHITE RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£47.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£48.15 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £1095.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-26 00:54 GMT+0000

[dizmo]

I'd get this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (£173.67 @ BT Shop)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  (£20.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£124.98 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£82.73 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X+ 8G Video Card  (£489.97 @ Novatech)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  (£51.95 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£78.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1208.04

[seon123]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

I'd get this

My build, but with a 3rd party cooler, a different motherboard, and different RAM?

[Tom Cat]

Why is everyone making it seem like the 7th gen Intel chips are obsolete? There not, usually people who use the chip are on a budget. 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Douglas The Duck said:

Why is everyone making it seem like the 7th gen Intel chips are obsolete? There not, usually people who use the chip are on a budget. 

Ryzen outperforms it for less anyway

[Tom Cat]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Ryzen outperforms it for less anyway

True in some cases 

[seon123]

2 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

Why is everyone making it seem like the 7th gen Intel chips are obsolete? There not, usually people who use the chip are on a budget. 

They are more expensive than Ryzen, and don't cost much less than Coffee. And they are worse value than both. As well as not having an upgrade path

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Douglas The Duck said:

True in about 95% of cases 

ftfy

[Tom Cat]

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

They are more expensive than Ryzen, and don't cost much less than Coffee. And they are worse value than both. As well as not having an upgrade path

Yes, but it's only a $10-$20 difference. Coffee Lake has more value. The 2020 claim is just, well a claim. Nothing more, it's not in writing anywhere from a official source. 

[seon123]

Just now, Douglas The Duck said:

Yes, but it's only a $10-$20 difference. Coffee Lake has more value. The 2020 claim is just, well a claim. Nothing more, it's not in writing anywhere from a official source. 

$10-20 between Kaby and Ryzen is if you ignore the cost of a decent Z270 motherboard Vs a decent B350 board. Not to mention a decent CPU cooler, which comes included with Ryzen. 

Even if support for AM4 was to end in 2018, it would still have the 8-cores and Zen 2 to upgrade to. Which is much more than from a 7600K to a 7700K.

[dizmo]

9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

My build, but with a 3rd party cooler, a different motherboard, and different RAM?

Yeah I had noticed that when I posted it. Great minds...

TBH the only reason I picked the cooler and motherboard were for aesthetics.

[Cyracus]

5 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

The 2020 claim is just, well a claim. Nothing more, it's not in writing anywhere from a official source.

um... https://www.dvhardware.net/article65794.html