Is this gtx1070 worth it?

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

Gpus are finally decreasing in price, but there are still a bit more pricy then they used to be.

I did find this thing though https://www.skroutz.gr/s/9394436/MSI-GeForce-GTX1070-8GB-Aero-OC-GTX-1070-AERO-8G-OC.html for just 400$ 

But then i looked for used 1070 gpus and i found this puppy https://www.skroutz.gr/s/9241728/MSI-GeForce-GTX1070-8GB-Gaming-X-GTX-1070-Gaming-X-8G.html

for 430 , and perhaps i can convince him to give it to me for 400-410 , since he only has 2 views so far...

Anyway , do they have any BIG differences or not? i dont care about aesthetics ... i only care about reliability and performance.

 

[Lurick]

The latter card will perform about the same, probably a bit better, but much cooler and quieter so I would definitely say it's worth it.

[Damascus]

Neither are a good deal AT ALL, you can get a 980 ti for $300 or so pretty easily, and they are better performers.  If you have supply issues where you live/don't have a good second hand market and need to get one of these two models, get the gaming X.  It is worth the extra money as it will OC higher and give  a decent boost in temps, noise and longevity

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

Just now, Damascus said:

Neither are a good deal AT ALL, you can get a 980 ti for $300 or so pretty easily, and they are better performers.  If you have supply issues where you live/don't have a good second hand market and need to get one of these two models, get the gaming X.  It is worth the extra money as it will OC higher and give  a decent boost in temps, noise and longevity

are you sure 980 ti is good for streaming while gaming on QHD with r7 1700 ?

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

are you sure 980 ti is good for streaming while gaming on QHD with r7 1700 ?

Better than a 1070, 980 ti's perform about 5-10% better in DX10/11 games and about 5-10% worse in DX12 games.  Only downside is the VRAM but I'm  going to be honest, playing a solid 60FPS on 4k pretty much requires a 1080 ti if you want anything higher than medium settings

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

Just now, Damascus said:

Better than a 1070, 980 ti's perform about 5-10% better in DX10/11 games and about 5-10% worse in DX12 games.  Only downside is the VRAM but I'm  going to be honest, playing a solid 60FPS on 4k pretty much requires a 1080 ti if you want anything higher than medium settings

then why isnt it on the 10 generation? i always thought that anything below 1050 is worse than the 10th generation ...

 

Also i found a guy selling this ASUS STRIX GAMING GTX980ΤΙ 6GB for 400$ its used but its 980 ti like u said !

I still dont get the difference between the 1070 though ... amma go check some benchmarks

[it_dont_work]

1 minute ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

 

Just get the 1070, unless you can find something cheaper locally, especially if your in Greece, fucking protectionism going crazy there.

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

7 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Better than a 1070, 980 ti's perform about 5-10% better in DX10/11 games and about 5-10% worse in DX12 games.  Only downside is the VRAM but I'm  going to be honest, playing a solid 60FPS on 4k pretty much requires a 1080 ti if you want anything higher than medium settings

ok wtf... my whole life has been a lie... the 980 ti is better than 1070 in most games... 400$ for a used one... like damn , i might as well buy the 980 ti! only thing left is compatability , wait a sec to tell me

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

2 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

Just get the 1070, unless you can find something cheaper locally, especially if your in Greece, fucking protectionism going crazy there.

yes i am in greece ... stupid country ! Last year the s7 edge had a small sale for 400$ mid-summer ... this Black friday 2017/25/11 it costed 500$ ... fuckng logic

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

then why isnt it on the 10 generation? i always thought that anything below 1050 is worse than the 10th generation ...

 

Also i found a guy selling this ASUS STRIX GAMING GTX980ΤΙ 6GB for 400$ its used but its 980 ti like u said !

I still dont get the difference between the 1070 though ... amma go check some benchmarks

That's a solid card, one of the best 980 ti's ever made. 

 

2 minutes ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

then why isnt it on the 10 generation? i always thought that anything below 1050 is worse than the 10th generation ...

Here's how GPU generations work.  The best one of last gen is about as good as the mid-high range GPU's of the next, so on and so forth.  XX80 ti = XX70 of the next gen.

 

10th gen (pascal)------------------9th gen (Maxwell)----------------------7th gen (Kepler) (they came out in this order, eighth gen was mobile only)

 

Titan Xp/1080 ti

1080/1070 ti

1070-------------------------------------980ti/Titan Xm

1060 6gb-------------------------------980

1060 3gb-------------------------------970-------------------------------------780 ti

1050 ti----------------------------------960-------------------------------------780/770 4gb

1050-------------------------------------950 ti-----------------------------------770 2gb/760

1030-------------------------------------950-------------------------------------750 ti

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

4 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

Just get the 1070, unless you can find something cheaper locally, especially if your in Greece, fucking protectionism going crazy there.

not only that , there is no place to buy the 980 ti officially from an actual store... only used, and who knows where they got it from

Anyway u suggest the BRAND NEW 1070 for 400$ , the used 1070 slightly better for 430$ or the used 980 ti for 400$ ... 

He says he bought the 980 ti for 900$ ... little shady considering he gives away such a device for 50%+ cheaper ...

[Damascus]

Just now, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

He says he bought the 980 ti for 900$ ... little shady considering he gives away such a device for 50%+ cheaper ...

Not at all, that would have been the retail for it a couple years ago.  It would have cost what a STRIX 1080 ti does now.

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

Just now, Damascus said:

Not at all, that would have been the retail for it a couple years ago.  It would have cost what a STRIX 1080 ti does now.

so , should i contact this guy ?

[Damascus]

Just now, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

so , should i contact this guy ?

IMO, yes.  That cooler is fantastic and it overclocks like a champ.  It's a bit large and noms up power (if your electricity costs a lot the 1070 takes about ~100w less) and its a performance MONSTER

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

Just now, Damascus said:

IMO, yes.  That cooler is fantastic and it overclocks like a champ.  It's a bit large and noms up power (if your electricity costs a lot the 1070 takes about ~100w less) and its a performance MONSTER

well yes it is a monster , which means more space , so i dont even know if its going to fit my stuff on my little 400s from phanteks ...

Maybe i should just get the new 1070 .. i mean its going to do its job and i wont need to pay more money for a psu , for a case , and for electricity bills  i got this close (raises hand very high*) into taking the 980 ti , thank u anyway but i made my decision 

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

well yes it is a monster , which means more space , so i dont even know if its going to fit my stuff on my little 400s from phanteks ...

Maybe i should just get the new 1070 .. i mean its going to do its job and i wont need to pay more money for a psu , for a case , and for electricity bills  i got this close (raises hand very high*) into taking the 980 ti , thank u anyway but i made my decision 

What is your current PSU?  Also, the 980 ti should fit the P400s, it's got plenty of space.

 

Finally, if you are set on a 1070 don't get the aero, they are loud, hot and it will perform a good bit worse than either the Gaming X 1070 or the strix 980 ti

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

Just now, Damascus said:

What is your current PSU?  Also, the 980 ti should fit the P400s, it's got plenty of space.

 

Finally, if you are set on a 1070 don't get the aero, they are loud, hot and it will perform a good bit worse than either the Gaming X 1070 or the strix 980 ti

man ur pain in the @ss ...( in a good way) ok ill think about it 

650w

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

3 minutes ago, Damascus said:

What is your current PSU?  Also, the 980 ti should fit the P400s, it's got plenty of space.

 

Finally, if you are set on a 1070 don't get the aero, they are loud, hot and it will perform a good bit worse than either the Gaming X 1070 or the strix 980 ti

can it withstand 650 or will i need 750?

[Damascus]

Just now, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

man ur pain in the @ss ...( in a good way) ok ill think about it 

650w

Your PSU can handle any of them, its ~200w vs ~300w so you should be good as long as its decent quality   I would personally try and get both of the second hand guys to lower prices using a burner account.  offer 380 on each and see what happens (use a fresh email so you don't burn bridges)