Vram?

[Flawizz]

Hi, im stuck, cant decide if i should buy a gtx 1060 3gb or gtx 1050ti 4gb. Only question is what vram affects. 1050ti has more vram, does it make 1050ti better? If so then why does it cost less. I dont get it plz halp.

[WereCat]

Any game that is capable of using 4GB of VRAM is hard enough to run where you will hit performance wall with 1050ti before you can use that much VRAM most of the time.

Just grab the GTX 1060 3GB/6GB or preferably RX470/480//570/580 4GB/8GB if you can.

[Streetguru]

7 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

 

RX 570 4GB is the correct answer.

Okay well it's not $199 anymore, but whatever

 

RX 580 4GB is the correct answer $250 though atm, no one should buy the 3GB 1060, sounds like you want more performance than a 1050ti
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dTfmP6/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-4gb-nitro-video-card-11265-07
 

*Like every good deal on RX cards sold out in the last few days

[Flawizz]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

RX 570 4GB is the correct answer.

Okay well it's not $199 anymore, but whatever

 

RX 580 4GB is the correct answer $250 though atm, no one should buy the 3GB 1060, sounds like you want more performance than a 1050ti
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dTfmP6/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-4gb-nitro-video-card-11265-07
 

*Like every good deal on RX cards sold out in the last few days

Hmm i dont like amd gpus. Although i will be getting ryzen 3 1200. Also those gpus are not being sold here anymore. But will r3 1200 bottmeneck 1060 3gb?

[Flawizz]

Think i will go with the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Mini ITX OC 3G. But note it says mini itx. Does this mean its only for mini itx motherboards?

[Versti]

16 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Think i will go with the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Mini ITX OC 3G. But note it says mini itx. Does this mean its only for mini itx motherboards?

Mini ITX GPUs are called like that because they are meant to be used in a small factor PCs, but you can still use for a normal build, but it's cooling is not gonna be the best, other than that it's good to use..

[Streetguru]

28 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Hmm i dont like amd gpus. Although i will be getting ryzen 3 1200. Also those gpus are not being sold here anymore. But will r3 1200 bottmeneck 1060 3gb?

That doesn't make much sense on the AMD GPU front

CPU's bottleneck refresh rate

 

GPU's bottleneck resolution/quality settings.

But whatever you do, do not, buy a 3GB 1060, buy a 6GB 1060 at minimum. Or find any RX 570/580 they'll be a better value anyways, especially if you ever upgrade to a free-sync display, as it should always be a good deal cheaper than G-sync.

 

[Flawizz]

7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That doesn't make much sense on the AMD GPU front

CPU's bottleneck refresh rate

 

GPU's bottleneck resolution/quality settings.

But whatever you do, do not, buy a 3GB 1060, buy a 6GB 1060 at minimum. Or find any RX 570/580 they'll be a better value anyways, especially if you ever upgrade to a free-sync display, as it should always be a good deal cheaper than G-sync.

 

Why not tho? Why shouldnt i buy the 1060 3gb? Il be upgrading in max 10months. Also i  dont like fancy graphics. Id play all games on low 1080. 

[Streetguru]

Just now, Flawizz said:

Why not tho? Why shouldnt i buy the 1060 3gb? Il be upgrading in max 10months. Also i  dont like fancy graphics. Id play all games on low 1080. 

Then save money and buy a 1050ti? If that means you're going to sell your card in 10 months than a 6GB 1060 would sell better than a 3GB model.

The 3GB model is just too little VRAM for the money.

Better yet if you don't care about graphics buy a 1050 or RX 560.

[Flawizz]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Then save money and buy a 1050ti? If that means you're going to sell your card in 10 months than a 6GB 1060 would sell better than a 3GB model.

The 3GB model is just too little VRAM for the money.

Better yet if you don't care about graphics buy a 1050 or RX 560.

I mean. Beanchmarks show around 5 fps more in games. I wont be selling it. Il give it to my brother. Also im 15 so all the money i earn in summer vacation will go towards my pc. Around 3000€. So im not thinking about saving for then. Also userbenchmark.com shows that 1060 is better than rx 570 in almost everything.

[Streetguru]

14 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

I mean. Beanchmarks show around 5 fps more in games. I wont be selling it. Il give it to my brother. Also im 15 so all the money i earn in summer vacation will go towards my pc. Around 3000€. So im not thinking about saving for then. Also userbenchmark.com shows that 1060 is better than rx 570 in almost everything.

fps difference may not be much but you won't have the same quality, like you'll have to lower textures and those types of effects on the 3GB card

 

But really just save more and get a 1050 or RX 560, they'll do 1080p gaming just fine, or even buy a decent used GPU, especially if you aren't actually going to use the extra performance from a 1060 or 1050ti

Like the money can go to games or something if you don't care about getting 1080p high-ultra.
 

 

The 570 likely catches up with an overclock and on DX12/Vulkan games, and the pricing is different than the US

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, Flawizz said:

Hmm i dont like amd gpus. Although i will be getting ryzen 3 1200. Also those gpus are not being sold here anymore. But will r3 1200 bottmeneck 1060 3gb?

AMD GPUs are just fine.

 

The 580 performs just as well as a 1060 and sometimes better.

 

an RX 580 4GB or 8GB is what I recommend.

[AlTech]

33 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Also i  dont like fancy graphics. Id play all games on low 1080. 

May I ask why?

[Flawizz]

20 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

fps difference may not be much but you won't have the same quality, like you'll have to lower textures and those types of effects on the 3GB card

 

But really just save more and get a 1050 or RX 560, they'll do 1080p gaming just fine, or even buy a decent used GPU, especially if you aren't actually going to use the extra performance from a 1060 or 1050ti

Like the money can go to games or something if you don't care about getting 1080p high-ultra.
 

 

The 570 likely catches up with an overclock and on DX12/Vulkan games, and the pricing is different than the US

Really dont like to save. I have a budget of 700€ and i love high fps counts. I want to see 150+ fps in almost every game. But i get why you recommend this. Ty

[Flawizz]

7 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

May I ask why?

Im a competitive gamer. Those shiny things might look beautiful but they can sometimes throw me off. And i dont really notice a difference tbh because im so focused on the game. Also it eats fps =)  heck i'd even go 720p if i dont hit 100fps 

Edited November 13, 2017 by Flawizz

[AlTech]

3 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Im a competitive gamer.

So you don't play games to enjoy them?

3 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Those shiny things might look beautiful but they can sometimes throw me off.

interesting. I've honestly never heard of anything like this before.

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Im a competitive gamer. Those shiny things might look beautiful but they can sometimes throw me off. And i dont really notice a difference tbh because im so focused on the game. Also it eats fps =)  heck i'd even go 720p if i dont hit 100fps 

Your CPU is way more important than your GPU For high refresh rate gaming, because your GPU can scale down all day, but you can't make your CPU magically faster, there's 8700K results for the fastest gaming CPU, try to find like 720p benchmarks with a 1080ti to see what each CPU's max fps in that game would be. This guy might have a lot like that

https://www.techspot.com/review/1497-intel-core-i7-8700k/page3.html
 

 

[AlTech]

5 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Im a competitive gamer. Those shiny things might look beautiful but they can sometimes throw me off. And i dont really notice a difference tbh because im so focused on the game. Also it eats fps =)  heck i'd even go 720p if i dont hit 100fps 

by the way, lowering resolution to 720p won't always work cos fps is tied to CPU and not GPU.

 

CPUs process frames that the GPU renders. So if the CPU is too slow it bottlenecks the GPU.

[Flawizz]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

So you don't play games to enjoy them?

interesting. I've honestly never heard of anything like this before.

I do play them for enjoyment. But im competitive. I take it serious. And whenever i make those big clutch plays i enjoy it =). 

And yeah idk. They just throw me off.

[Flawizz]

I mean if i get good fps on my i7 5500u 2c/4t 2.4ghz then i wil see better fps with ryzen 3 1200 4c 4t 3.1ghz right?

[Flawizz]

Also would cx450m have enough power for a ryzen3 1200 + gtx 1060?

 

[AlTech]

8 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

I do play them for enjoyment. But im competitive. I take it serious.

Taking things seriously doesn't mean you need to change graphics settings.

 

I know someone who bought a 1080Ti for CS:GO

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And whenever i make those big clutch plays i enjoy it =). 

And yeah idk. They just throw me off.

to each their own.

 

4 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Also would cx450m have enough power for a ryzen3 1200 + gtx 1060?

 

A CX450M would deliver enough power but it's just not a amazing unit. It's quite decidedly in the spectrum of mid range to lower end.

 

If you want better efficiency, quieter operating and features like all Japanese capacitors then you'll need to spend a little more money.

[Flawizz]

Also guys. A cat7 cable will just fit into a mobi right? I have msi b350m gaming pro if you're wondering.

[AlTech]

2 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

Also guys. A cat7 cable will just fit into a mobi right? I have msi b350m gaming pro if you're wondering.

cat7?

 

Cat6 is just fine but if you already have cat7 then yeah it should be ok.

[Flawizz]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

cat7?

 

Cat6 is just fine but if you already have cat7 then yeah it should be ok.

Got a cat 7 here. But whats the difference?