1600 vs 1600x *SAME PRICE*

[Crimson2OP]

I bought a MSI Armor 1080 lately and I'm planning to buy a 1440p 165hz G-Sync monitor in the future, and needs a good cpu for that with good OC Potential. 

I don't want to spend too much but 1600 goes for 215$ and the 1600x for 220$, adding a cooler is really the only diff. 

does it change the meta-game a bit?  

[DocSwag]

Are you willing to OC?

 

If yes, 1600. If no, 1600x.

[BloodyWaters]

Go for the X if it is only 5 dollars more. 

[Crimson2OP]

9 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Are you willing to OC?

 

If yes, 1600. If no, 1600x.

Well yeah, no major drawbacks to OCing i suppose?? 
I can recall to have heard someone saying 1600x has a bit more OC headroom tho, so not sure. 

[Crimson2OP]

9 hours ago, BloodyWaters said:

Go for the X if it is only 5 dollars more. 

for certain? with what cooler would u advise for OCing without adding 2much?

[byronas100]

since youre going to oc and most likely buy an aftermarket cooler go for the 2600x

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Crimson2OP said:

I bought a MSI Armor 1080 lately and I'm planning to buy a 1440p 165hz G-Sync monitor in the future, and needs a good cpu for that with good OC Potential. 

I don't want to spend too much but 1600 goes for 215$ and the 1600x for 220$, adding a cooler is really the only diff. 

does it change the meta-game a bit?  

Were you going to buy a $25 cooler anyways? If so 1600X at the same price to hopefully hit 4ghz at lower voltages.

Whatever motherboard you get though be sure to slap a fan on the VRM

Ryzen will do something like 100fps average in AAA Games, the Coffee Lake parts are faster, but I don't know if they're in stock yet.

What's the budget for the upgrade?

Also I'd suggest you forget G-sync and go for this $399 1440p 144hz IPS display, it has free-sync but that won't matter, still a solid display at a lower price
https://pixiogaming.com/collections/monitors/products/new-px277

[DocSwag]

Just now, Crimson2OP said:

Well yeah, no major drawbacks to OCing i suppose?? 
I can recall to have heard someone saying 1600x has a bit more OC headroom tho, so not sure. 

At best you might see .1 ghz higher OCs with the 1600x. That's not enough to really make much of a difference.

[RAM555789]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7 is a pretty decent cooler

[Ruffleduffle]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Were you going to buy a $25 cooler anyways? If so 1600X at the same price to hopefully hit 4ghz at lower voltages.

Whatever motherboard you get though be sure to slap a fan on the VRM

Ryzen will do something like 100fps average in AAA Games, the Coffee Lake parts are faster, but I don't know if they're in stock yet.

but also the z370 mobos are hella expensive

[Crimson2OP]

9 hours ago, Ruffleduffle said:

but also the z370 mobos are hella expensive

Exactly, having them out of stock week after week plus the z370's price is what turned me down and made me #GoRyzen

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7 is a pretty decent cooler

Will it be compatible with a ASUS ROG B350-F or perhaps one of the mid-tier Asrock Mobos? just to make sure 

[Ruffleduffle]

5 minutes ago, Crimson2OP said:

Well yeah, no major drawbacks to OCing i suppose?? 
I can recall to have heard someone saying 1600x has a bit more OC headroom tho, so not sure. 

the 1600x is basically a better binned 1600, so yeah, they typically oc a bit better and for 5bucks more its a good deal.

Usually it is about a 30-50 dollar difference and that si why the 1600x typically is not worth the upgrade

[Crimson2OP]

10 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Were you going to buy a $25 cooler anyways? If so 1600X at the same price to hopefully hit 4ghz at lower voltages.

Whatever motherboard you get though be sure to slap a fan on the VRM

Ryzen will do something like 100fps average in AAA Games, the Coffee Lake parts are faster, but I don't know if they're in stock yet.

What's the budget for the upgrade?

Also I'd suggest you forget G-sync and go for this $399 1440p 144hz IPS display, it has free-sync but that won't matter, still a solid display at a lower price
https://pixiogaming.com/collections/monitors/products/new-px277

well I planned to use the 1600 with its stock cooler but not sure if the OC will be as good this way, i could benefit from OCed 1600X I guess, and adding 30$ in the long run use isn't a biggy if it will be of help for gaming u see. 

[Ruffleduffle]

the r5 1600 wiht the cooler usually takes the perfomance per dolar award right now. but when the 1600x is just 5 bucks more and you would get a cooler anyway, it is a good deal

[RAM555789]

1 minute ago, Crimson2OP said:

well I planned to use the 1600 with its stock cooler but not sure if the OC will be as good this way, i could benefit from OCed 1600X I guess, and adding 30$ in the long run use isn't a biggy if it will be of help for gaming u see. 

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Weather or not you get the 1600 or the 1600X you will get a huge benefit out of using something other than the stock cooler. Regardless of which one you pick, for the best OC possible you want an aftermarket cooler.

[Crimson2OP]

10 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Were you going to buy a $25 cooler anyways? If so 1600X at the same price to hopefully hit 4ghz at lower voltages.

Whatever motherboard you get though be sure to slap a fan on the VRM

Ryzen will do something like 100fps average in AAA Games, the Coffee Lake parts are faster, but I don't know if they're in stock yet.

What's the budget for the upgrade?

Also I'd suggest you forget G-sync and go for this $399 1440p 144hz IPS display, it has free-sync but that won't matter, still a solid display at a lower price
https://pixiogaming.com/collections/monitors/products/new-px277

Unfortunately it's not possible for me

my bro lives in the US and pays a visit over here (Israel) and that's why it was possible to make these orders through either Amazon or NewEgg and have the equipment with him in the bags, but can't rly say the same for a montior hehe. 

 

OH WELL, with the extremely high prices in my country it's either 165hz TN Panelled 1440p monitor with G-Sync for 520$ or saving money and stay with some garbage 60hz 1080p monitor which used to be IPS but showing electromagnetic waves or some weirdass shit

[Ruffleduffle]

Just now, Crimson2OP said:

Unfortunately it's not possible for me

my bro lives in the US and pays a visit over here (Israel) and that's why it was possible to make these orders through either Amazon or NewEgg and have the equipment with him in the bags, but can't rly say the same for a montior hehe. 

 

OH WELL, with the extremely high prices in my country it's either 165hz TN Panelled 1440p monitor with G-Sync for 520$ or saving money and stay with some garbage 60hz 1080p monitor which used to be IPS but showing electromagnetic waves or some weirdass shit

be careful with the import fees then, I dont know about israel but in germany you are only allowed goods that are worth 400EUR total, otherwise you will be having to pay humongous taxes

[Crimson2OP]

10 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Were you going to buy a $25 cooler anyways? If so 1600X at the same price to hopefully hit 4ghz at lower voltages.

Whatever motherboard you get though be sure to slap a fan on the VRM

Ryzen will do something like 100fps average in AAA Games, the Coffee Lake parts are faster, but I don't know if they're in stock yet.

What's the budget for the upgrade?

Also I'd suggest you forget G-sync and go for this $399 1440p 144hz IPS display, it has free-sync but that won't matter, still a solid display at a lower price
https://pixiogaming.com/collections/monitors/products/new-px277

So someone here suggested me this cooler for the CPU:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

does it cool the VRM aswell or i need a seperate cooler for that? cuz i dunno what fan do i need to put ayy.. 

I do have some fans in my current setup i suppose but im not sure if they're any good and I have never cleaned em' so they might be in a pure shit state atm y'see.

(I do clean the pc with a dust cleaner spray once in a while but I don't open the fans and go into real depths)

[Crimson2OP]

9 hours ago, Ruffleduffle said:

be careful with the import fees then, I dont know about israel but in germany you are only allowed goods that are worth 400EUR total, otherwise you will be having to pay humongous taxes

yeah taxes is a bitch, when my bro gets us stuff he usually goes unnoticed and everything goes well but last time i made a PC upgrade(gtx 670 and shit) and asked him to bring me the stuff at 2012, he did get caught and we paid like 300~400$ taxes for some stuff and phones aswell which sucks but it's really just bad luck and usually doesn't occur

[Ruffleduffle]

1 minute ago, Crimson2OP said:

So someone here suggested me this cooler for the CPU:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

does it cool the VRM aswell or i need a seperate cooler for that? cuz i dunno what fan do i need to put ayy.. 

I do have some fans in my current setup i suppose but im not sure if they're any good and I have never cleaned em' so they might be in a pure shit state atm y'see.

(I do clean the pc with a dust cleaner spray once in a while but I don't open the fans and go into real depths)

usually the ample airflow in a case and from the cooler is enough to cool the vrms.

If you want to be certain you can flip your cpu cooler 180° and do a rear and top intake

[Ruffleduffle]

1 minute ago, Crimson2OP said:

yeah taxes is a bitch, when my bro gets us stuff he usually goes unnoticed and everything goes well but last time i made a PC upgrade(gtx 670 and shit) and asked him to bring me the stuff at 2012, he did get caught and we paid like 300~400$ taxes for some stuff and phones aswell which sucks but it's really just bad luck and usually doesn't occur

I see you got lucky.

In Germany it si not that easy to sneak past customs, they are pretty good ad eyeballing the worth of your goods

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Crimson2OP said:

literally just slap a fan over the VRM like this

 

that cooler is fine

 

are you sure free-sync isn't cheaper still in general even in your area? You can usually get an IPS free-sync display for the cost of a G-sync TN display over here

[Ruffleduffle]

Just now, Streetguru said:

literally just slap a fan over the VRM like this

 

that cooler is fine

 

are you sure free-sync isn't cheaper still in general even in your area? You can usually get an IPS free-sync display for the cost of a G-sync TN display over here

yeah, the g-sync panely are really hard to find for good price in europe, but you can use freesync since the radeon cards are just not good enouhg to push such high framerates wihtout requiring a nuclear powerplant

[Crimson2OP]

10 hours ago, Ruffleduffle said:

I see you got lucky.

In Germany it si not that easy to sneak past customs, they are pretty good ad eyeballing the worth of your goods

I feel you, the workers are getting more knowledgeable on the worth of items as times move on is what i'd think so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be caught these days but when he visited back in new year he looked like a total foreign (not israeli) cuz he lives in the US for freaking 9 years already and has extremely good american accent and when they tried to call him in hebrew he ignored and then they shouted "sir!! sir!!" and he was like "yeah?" hahahah even though he can understand and speak hebrew and they were like "Oh he must not be Israeli so we don't need to check for taxes" ROFL

[Ruffleduffle]

1 minute ago, Crimson2OP said:

I feel you, the workers are getting more knowledgeable on the worth of items as times move on is what i'd think so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be caught these days but when he visited back in new year he looked like a total foreign (not israeli) cuz he lives in the US for freaking 9 years already and has extremely good american accent and when they tried to call him in hebrew he ignored and then they shouted "sir!! sir!!" and he was like "yeah?" hahahah even though he can understand and speak hebrew and they were like "Oh he must not be Israeli so we don't need to check for taxes" ROFL

the taxes are usually not that bad if you adminiter your stuff before they find you smuggling, it is just something that you need to put into your calculations if you are shopping abroad