Help me make a future-proof decision ^-^

[Nytrite]

You can skip the next few paragraphs, they're just there to explain and help you understand my situation 

 

So after reading numerous nightmare-fueling reviews about Xotic PC (and add the fact that I might need international shipping). My dreams of getting a Sager laptop is now buried 6 feet deep under the ground. So now, I've taken the advice of different people from this forum and decided to go the more local route and the only great choices are from MSI, Alienware and possibly Asus.

 

Context: I'm about to go to college, so I'd prefer the lighter option among my choices. But as long as it doesn't weigh more than 7 pounds - I'm good. I will also be using this for video editing, programming and coding (I am aware that this does not necessarily mean that I need very high-end laptops), and gaming (although I'm not aiming to play at max settings).

 

Which is why I prefer that it would be future-proof, which means I might want either of these qualities:

1. has a 7th Gen i7

2. has a SSD (that's upgradeable in case it's not that big)

3. IPS screen or something just as good(I'm not too familiar with this one).

4. I prefer the GTX 1070, but if it gets too expensive then maybe I'll settle for a GTX 1060.

 

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So far I've boiled them down to these ones:

1. MSI GT62VR DOMINATOR PRO-239

2. MSI GT62VR Dominator Pro-238

3. MSI GS43VR Phantom Pro-069 14 Inch GTX 1060

4. MSI GT62VR Dominator-240

5. Alienware 15 R3 i7-7700HQ G-Sync GTX 1060 256GB SSD 16GB Gaming Laptop

 

Recommendations and other suggestions are welcomed - I AM getting old so maybe I might stick to console (Switch) gaming in the near future. And if you're wondering I'm from the Philippines - so my choices might be limited. Thanks a bunch!  

 

[horribly outdated]

What is you budget?

[Nytrite]

@Giulio Cellocco Nothing past $1800, ideally around $1500 to $1700.

[horribly outdated]

This laptop is ultra thin. https://www.amazon.com/G-SYNC-Gaming-Computer-GeForce-i7-7700HQ/dp/B01NALTGWN/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1509443086&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=asus+gtx+1070+laptop&psc=1

[WereCat]

8 minutes ago, Nytrite said:

Which is why I prefer that it would be future-proof, which means I might want either of these qualities: has a 7th Gen 

There's already 8th gen, and next year there will be 9th gen so there goes your "future proofing"

 

[horribly outdated]

It has everything you might want, if you want something sexier then go to MSI's website, they have rgb keyboards and the lot.

[Nytrite]

Just now, WereCat said:

There's already 8th gen, and next year there will be 9th gen so there goes your "future proofing"

 

@WereCat Yeah well it's unavoidable anyway. I just want something that could last me for almost 5 years, just enough to save up for a new one.

 

@Giulio Cellocco thanks. I'll look into its reviews. Does it have any drawbacks?

[horribly outdated]

Maybe the keyboard being ugly-ish. Everything else seems amazing for the price: 120hz 1080p with g.sync for 1670 usd is nothing short of miracoulus. 

[Nytrite]

13 minutes ago, Giulio Cellocco said:

Maybe the keyboard being ugly-ish. Everything else seems amazing for the price: 120hz 1080p with g.sync for 1670 usd is nothing short of miracoulus. 

It does seem too good to be true, I'm just a little bit worried of its screen. Plus for its price it doesn't look too premium. I'll take note if though and last I checked, its available in my country.

[johnjohns111]

1 hour ago, Nytrite said:

You can skip the next few paragraphs, they're just there to explain and help you understand my situation 

 

So after reading numerous nightmare-fueling reviews about Xotic PC (and add the fact that I might need international shipping). My dreams of getting a Sager laptop is now buried 6 feet deep under the ground. So now, I've taken the advice of different people from this forum and decided to go the more local route and the only great choices are from MSI, Alienware and possibly Asus.

 

Context: I'm about to go to college, so I'd prefer the lighter option among my choices. But as long as it doesn't weigh more than 7 pounds - I'm good. I will also be using this for video editing, programming and coding (I am aware that this does not necessarily mean that I need very high-end laptops), and gaming (although I'm not aiming to play at max settings).

 

Which is why I prefer that it would be future-proof, which means I might want either of these qualities:

1. has a 7th Gen i7

2. has a SSD (that's upgradeable in case it's not that big)

3. IPS screen or something just as good(I'm not too familiar with this one).

4. I prefer the GTX 1070, but if it gets too expensive then maybe I'll settle for a GTX 1060.

 

---

 

So far I've boiled them down to these ones:

1. MSI GT62VR DOMINATOR PRO-239

2. MSI GT62VR Dominator Pro-238

3. MSI GS43VR Phantom Pro-069 14 Inch GTX 1060

4. MSI GT62VR Dominator-240

5. Alienware 15 R3 i7-7700HQ G-Sync GTX 1060 256GB SSD 16GB Gaming Laptop

 

Recommendations and other suggestions are welcomed - I AM getting old so maybe I might stick to console (Switch) gaming in the near future. And if you're wondering I'm from the Philippines - so my choices might be limited. Thanks a bunch!  

 

Haven't seen this cute sets from MSI 

If you will look at comparison https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/msi-gt62vr-6re Alienware R3 is a bit better than MSI GT62 Dominator Pro. Looks like they are recommending Digital Storm Equinox if you want to save some $ but don't know about it.

[Nytrite]

5 minutes ago, johnjohns111 said:

Haven't seen this cute sets from MSI 

If you will look at comparison https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/msi-gt62vr-6re Alienware R3 is a bit better than MSI GT62 Dominator Pro. Looks like they are recommending Digital Storm Equinox if you want to save some $ but don't know about it.

@johnjohns111 and if I'm not mistaken they're comparing that to the older Alienware 15 R3 (it still has the i5), does this mean that the Alienware 15 R3 with i7 is better? Or am I interpreting this all wrong?

[johnjohns111]

@Nytrite hm... yeah, can't tell you for sure

[genexis_x]

NEVER buy a laptop by brand, every brand has good and bad products

 

Avoid Asus ROG series, most of them have issues and not great for money, MSI GT and Alienware 15 are good, however IMO the GT has better cooling which is important for a hot card like GTX 1070

 

Consider Clevo laptops as well

[Nytrite]

12 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

NEVER buy a laptop by brand, every brand has good and bad products

 

Avoid Asus ROG series, most of them have issues and not great for money, MSI GT and Alienware 15 are good, however IMO the GT has better cooling which is important for a hot card like GTX 1070

 

Consider Clevo laptops as well

@ZM Fong I guess my post came out wrong but I'm not picking by brand at all, it's just that these are the brands that are available in my country that are actually decent.

 

I did consider Sager, but I'm a bit skeptical on ordering from Xotic PC with all the international fees and all, plus our local online reseller charges $250 more, which is absurd.

 

If ever the Alienware 15 R3 is not available, which among the MSI GT series is ideal? I'm leaning towards the Dominator-240 as it fits my budget.

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, Nytrite said:

@ZM Fong I guess my post came out wrong but I'm not picking by brand at all, it's just that these are the brands that are available in my country that are actually decent.

 

I did consider Sager, but I'm a bit skeptical on ordering from Xotic PC with all the international fees and all, plus our local online reseller charges $250 more, which is absurd.

 

If ever the Alienware 15 R3 is not available, which among the MSI GT series is ideal? I'm leaning towards the Dominator-240 as it fits my budget.

There are no such thing like 'decent' brand

 

Generally, any GT series laptop is good. Make sure you check reviews from notebookcheck

[Nytrite]

5 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

There are no such thing like 'decent' brand

 

Generally, any GT series laptop is good. Make sure you check reviews from notebookcheck

Well coming from a country filled with cheap knock-offs, subjective as 'decent' may sound, it is. Anyway, thanks a bunch! I'll be sure to check more reviews before I take the jump. 

[ACEHACK]

18 hours ago, Nytrite said:

You can skip the next few paragraphs, they're just there to explain and help you understand my situation 

 

So after reading numerous nightmare-fueling reviews about Xotic PC (and add the fact that I might need international shipping). My dreams of getting a Sager laptop is now buried 6 feet deep under the ground. So now, I've taken the advice of different people from this forum and decided to go the more local route and the only great choices are from MSI, Alienware and possibly Asus.

 

Context: I'm about to go to college, so I'd prefer the lighter option among my choices. But as long as it doesn't weigh more than 7 pounds - I'm good. I will also be using this for video editing, programming and coding (I am aware that this does not necessarily mean that I need very high-end laptops), and gaming (although I'm not aiming to play at max settings).

 

Which is why I prefer that it would be future-proof, which means I might want either of these qualities:

1. has a 7th Gen i7

2. has a SSD (that's upgradeable in case it's not that big)

3. IPS screen or something just as good(I'm not too familiar with this one).

4. I prefer the GTX 1070, but if it gets too expensive then maybe I'll settle for a GTX 1060.

 

---

 

So far I've boiled them down to these ones:

1. MSI GT62VR DOMINATOR PRO-239

2. MSI GT62VR Dominator Pro-238

3. MSI GS43VR Phantom Pro-069 14 Inch GTX 1060

4. MSI GT62VR Dominator-240

5. Alienware 15 R3 i7-7700HQ G-Sync GTX 1060 256GB SSD 16GB Gaming Laptop

 

Recommendations and other suggestions are welcomed - I AM getting old so maybe I might stick to console (Switch) gaming in the near future. And if you're wondering I'm from the Philippines - so my choices might be limited. Thanks a bunch!  

 

i just bought a sager-np8372 from xoticpc last week for the same workload programming and 3d modeling the base model costs $1729.00 i chose 32gb of ram and  i love it its quiet portable beast for everything  and let me tell you you dont need to buy it from sager or xoticpc clevo laptops are international so search for clevo in your region in this case mine is clevo pa71hs

 

 

[Nytrite]

9 minutes ago, ACEHACK said:

i just bought a sager-np8372 from xoticpc last week for the same workload programming and 3d modeling the base model costs $1729.00 i chose 32gb of ram and  i love it its quiet portable beast for everything  and let me tell you you dont need to buy it from sager or xoticpc clevo laptops are international so search for clevo in your region in this case mine is clevo pa71hs

 

 

Thanks for letting me know, but my case might be different. You're in the US so the cost might not be as big. Thanks for sharing though.

[ACEHACK]

5 minutes ago, Nytrite said:

Thanks for letting me know, but my case might be different. You're in the US so the cost might not be as big. Thanks for sharing though.

thats why i said look up clevo laptops in your region retail markets here are 

 

Edited November 1, 2017 by ACEHACK

[Nytrite]

7 minutes ago, ACEHACK said:

thats why i said look up clevo laptops in your region retail markets here are 

 

As mentioned earlier, I already did. NP8157 costs $250 more plus the reseller isn't as reputable here in my country.

[sicily428]

On 31/10/2017 at 10:45 AM, Giulio Cellocco said:

This laptop is ultra thin. https://www.amazon.com/G-SYNC-Gaming-Computer-GeForce-i7-7700HQ/dp/B01NALTGWN/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1509443086&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=asus+gtx+1070+laptop&psc=1

that is also ultra hot

[sicily428]

On 31/10/2017 at 10:40 AM, Nytrite said:

You can skip the next few paragraphs, they're just there to explain and help you understand my situation 

 

So after reading numerous nightmare-fueling reviews about Xotic PC (and add the fact that I might need international shipping). My dreams of getting a Sager laptop is now buried 6 feet deep under the ground. So now, I've taken the advice of different people from this forum and decided to go the more local route and the only great choices are from MSI, Alienware and possibly Asus.

 

Context: I'm about to go to college, so I'd prefer the lighter option among my choices. But as long as it doesn't weigh more than 7 pounds - I'm good. I will also be using this for video editing, programming and coding (I am aware that this does not necessarily mean that I need very high-end laptops), and gaming (although I'm not aiming to play at max settings).

 

Which is why I prefer that it would be future-proof, which means I might want either of these qualities:

1. has a 7th Gen i7

2. has a SSD (that's upgradeable in case it's not that big)

3. IPS screen or something just as good(I'm not too familiar with this one).

4. I prefer the GTX 1070, but if it gets too expensive then maybe I'll settle for a GTX 1060.

 

---

 

So far I've boiled them down to these ones:

1. MSI GT62VR DOMINATOR PRO-239

2. MSI GT62VR Dominator Pro-238

3. MSI GS43VR Phantom Pro-069 14 Inch GTX 1060

4. MSI GT62VR Dominator-240

5. Alienware 15 R3 i7-7700HQ G-Sync GTX 1060 256GB SSD 16GB Gaming Laptop

 

Recommendations and other suggestions are welcomed - I AM getting old so maybe I might stick to console (Switch) gaming in the near future. And if you're wondering I'm from the Philippines - so my choices might be limited. Thanks a bunch!  

 

this is your best option IMO

MSI GT62VR DOMINATOR PRO-239

 

good cooling system, powerfull gpu, good sound system

[D13H4RD]

The GT62VR 239 looks like a great option.

 

Very good cooling, with top notch performance. Do uninstall the bloat though.

 

I'm somewhat skeptical on recommending MSI due to their quality control scares over the past few months but if it does have a worldwide warranty, you're safe.

 

I still recommend Clevo bases for gaming laptops with a GTX 1070 as some laptops (namely the RoG GL502/702VS and the GE73VR) struggles to keep the 1070 under control mainly due to their svelte profile (and in the case of the ASUS, inadequate cooling for that sort of GPU). Clevo bases aren't the best when it comes to build quality but many of them pack a huge punch.

[Nytrite]

1 hour ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

The GT62VR 239 looks like a great option.

 

Very good cooling, with top notch performance. Do uninstall the bloat though.

 

I'm somewhat skeptical on recommending MSI due to their quality control scares over the past few months but if it does have a worldwide warranty, you're safe.

 

I still recommend Clevo bases for gaming laptops with a GTX 1070 as some laptops (namely the RoG GL502/702VS and the GE73VR) struggles to keep the 1070 under control mainly due to their svelte profile (and in the case of the ASUS, inadequate cooling for that sort of GPU). Clevo bases aren't the best when it comes to build quality but many of them pack a huge punch.

Trust me, I'd love a Clevo laptop but my options are quite limited right now. I'll find a way soon enough though. Thanks a bunch for the help and for clearing that up!

[Nytrite]

7 hours ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

The GT62VR 239 looks like a great option.

 

Very good cooling, with top notch performance. Do uninstall the bloat though.

 

I'm somewhat skeptical on recommending MSI due to their quality control scares over the past few months but if it does have a worldwide warranty, you're safe.

 

I still recommend Clevo bases for gaming laptops with a GTX 1070 as some laptops (namely the RoG GL502/702VS and the GE73VR) struggles to keep the 1070 under control mainly due to their svelte profile (and in the case of the ASUS, inadequate cooling for that sort of GPU). Clevo bases aren't the best when it comes to build quality but many of them pack a huge punch.

@D13H4RD2L1V3Sorry for sort of necro-ing this a bit. But I wanted to clarify something.

 

Since I'd have to take into account the international shipping fee, I might have to settle for the NP8156 or MSI GT62VR Dom-240 which only has the GTX 1060.

 

Are those still solid options?

 

P.S. I was actually considering the Alienware but the number of complaints about it online is freaking me out. Looks solid though.