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I5 8600 K vs I7 8700 K for 2K gaming.

So I'm building a new 2K gaming PC on not really any budget, but I feel like 4K is a bit excessive right now in price, so I'm going to upgrade my super old computer to 2K and that'll be fine. So I need to know which processor I should get along with everything else to go with it, including a monitor. I'm thinking about the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q for a monitor, but any suggestions would be appreciated. This is specifically for gaming AAA titles like Destiny 2 and Star Wars Battlefront 2, possibly some streaming down the road, but highly doubtful I'll start showing people my terrible gaming skills. That's about it, thanks guys.

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8600K, put the savings into your GPU and RAM. 

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What do you mean by 2k? 1080p or 1440p?

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4 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

What do you mean by 2k? 1080p or 1440p?

2K = 1440p 

 

@Brony go 8600k. 6 cores for pure gaming aint worth it. Take your extra savings and put it in an SSD, a better GPU, custom PSU cables, something else. 

 

 

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Just now, Katsunaka said:

2K = 1440p 

It's actually not, but yeah that's obviously what OP means.

 

OP- 8700k since you're doing high refresh rate gaming. 8600k if it were 1440p60Hz.

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12 minutes ago, Katsunaka said:

2K = 1440p 

Uh, no.

2k == 2000. 

 

1440p == 2560x1440.

1440 =/= 2000.

2560 =/= 2000.

 

1080p == 1920x1080.

1080 =/= 2000.

1920 ≈≈ 2000.

 

Thus, 1080p == 2k.

 

The Displays section even has a sticky for this exact topic.

 

 

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My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

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CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

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CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

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SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

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4 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Uh, no.

2k == 2000. 

 

1440p == 2560x1440.

1440 =/= 2000.

2560 =/= 2000.

 

1080p == 1920x1080.

1080 =/= 2000.

1920 ≈≈ 2000.

 

Thus, 1080p == 2k.

To be fair though, its a really common misconception and you pretty much know that when someone says they're building a 2k system, they mean 1440p. Like how we know when someone asks for a 4k system, they mean 3840x2160 and not 3840x1080 or 4096x2160, or any other example of a 4k resolution.

 

Also, your explanation even confused me, and I understand what 2k actually refers to lmfao.

 

Would be much simpler had you just said 2k refers to the horizontal pixel count. Thus, 2k is 1920x1080, 1920x1200, etc etc. So, 2560x1440 is 2.5k. 

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8600k and 8700k should have the exact same IPC and 6 more threads won't help in gaming, unless its @ 4k triple monitors, video streaming, and running a video export at the same time. stick with the 8600k and a good cooler for oc. H212 evo might get 5 gigahertz depending on the chip

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Aidanlockett1 said:

6 more threads won't help in gaming

Uh, yes it will.

 

4 minutes ago, Aidanlockett1 said:

H212 evo might get 5 gigahertz depending on the chip

Lmfao, no chance. 212 EVO is trash. Plus CL uses crappy TIM.

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no set budget get the 8700 K all the way

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

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Just now, Sanctorum said:

Uh, yes it will.

 

Lmfao, no chance. 212 EVO is trash. Plus CL uses crappy TIM.

my bad thought it was a still viable option for Air cooling. Also 6 more threads isn't gonna warrant paying over 100 or so for a 8700k. 6 threads yes will help but not enough for like a 20 or so FPS boost. maybe 5-10 depending on game but a 6 core 6 thread Cpu overclocked will smash most games. Hell my 6600 can do some damage at 1080p but 4k is the great equalizer so resolution also is a big factor

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Lmfao, no chance. 212 EVO is trash. Plus CL uses crappy TIM.

OC3D has plenty of i5-8600K's going on 5.0GHz at 1.32V on air coolers like the Pure or Dark Rock single-towers. The TIM* on CFL is much better than KBL. 

 

*Adhesive was the issue with KBL, not the TIM. 

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Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB 3200/14
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 
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Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA - 970 SSC ACX (1080 is in RMA)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W with CableMod blue/black Pro Series
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1 minute ago, Aidanlockett1 said:

not enough for like a 20 or so FPS boost. maybe 5-10 

People need to stop doing this. You cant say "oh, such and such will give __ FPS boost". It makes no sense. 20FPS boost in what? 20FPS could be the difference between 20 and 40, or 400 and 420. The 8700k probably will give a 20FPS boost in some cases, but it wont necessarily be noticeable.

 

3 minutes ago, Aidanlockett1 said:

 4k is the great equalizer so resolution also is a big factor

we know he's looking to run 1440p high refresh rate though. In which case, an 8700k will offer a noticeable improvement.

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1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

OC3D has plenty of i5-8600K's going on 5.0GHz at 1.32V on air coolers like the Pure or Dark Rock single-towers. 

Those are better than the 212 EVO.

 

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

The TIM* on CFL is much better than KBL. 

No it isn't.

 

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

*Adhesive was the issue with KBL, not the TIM. 

Source?

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Just now, Sanctorum said:

People need to stop doing this. You cant say "oh, such and such will give __ FPS boost". It makes no sense. 20FPS boost in what? 20FPS could be the difference between 20 and 40, or 400 and 420. The 8700k probably will give a 20FPS boost in some cases, but it wont necessarily be noticeable.

 

we know he's looking to run 1440p high refresh rate though. In which case, an 8700k will offer a noticeable improvement.

true, I meant the fps difference that it shouldn't be too bad. In any case the 8600k is more worth it if he needs better cooling for overclocking or a better gpu. A budget would be nice.

 

 

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So an 8700 K with what motherboard? And by 2K I meant 1440p. Didn't know I was wrong by referring to 1440p as 2K, sorry for the confusion. Will a 1080 ti graphics card get the job done?

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30 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Uh, yes it will.

 

Lmfao, no chance. 212 EVO is trash. Plus CL uses crappy TIM.

Bruce did you actually just say it was trash, u can legit get 5.0 GHz with the cooler

The geek himself.

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1 minute ago, Being Delirious said:

Bruce did you actually just say it was trash, u can legit get 5.0 GHz with the cooler

Uwot?

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If you have the budget get the 8700K.

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