8700k/8600k vs 7700k upgrade

[Steeler1994]

Hey all. I built a Ryzen 5 1600 PC OC to 3.8ghz/ 16gb 3000 mhz RAM last month and not liking it at all. For the games i play such as WoW, OW, LoL, CSGO, BF1, and maybe some other AAA titles, usually tends to favor better single core performance. I see drops in FPS compared to my old 4690k. For gaming, its the 7700k still worth it compared to the 8700k/8600k? I'm asking because i play 1080p/144hz with a GTX 1070. Since the purchase was early, i can still refund both my CPU and motherboard to the full price.

 

EDIT: Reason i upgraded my 4690k was because i had 2 dead DIMM slots in which i couldn't run dual channel memory. I was also getting tired of playing games and wanting to watch youtube videos or twitch streams, the FPS would drop heavily because of the CPU maxing out.

[JoostinOnline]

Well the 8600K is better than the 7700K.

[DarkSmith2]

Yea, thats how it is. You dont buy Ryzen for 144hz gaming. Because its as slow as IvyBridge . Due to limited clockspeeds.

Could have told ya before ^^

[another random person]

22 minutes ago, Steeler1994 said:

Hey all. I built a Ryzen 5 1600 PC OC to 3.8ghz/ 16gb 3000 mhz RAM last month and not liking it at all. For the games i play such as WoW, OW, LoL, CSGO, BF1, and maybe some other AAA titles, usually tends to favor better single core performance. I see drops in FPS compared to my old 4690k. For gaming, its the 7700k still worth it compared to the 8700k/8600k? I'm asking because i play 1080p/144hz with a GTX 1070. Since the purchase was early, i can still refund both my CPU and motherboard to the full price.

 

EDIT: Reason i upgraded my 4690k was because i had 2 dead DIMM slots in which i couldn't run dual channel memory. I was also getting tired of playing games and wanting to watch youtube videos or twitch streams, the FPS would drop heavily because of the CPU maxing out.

If you want similar to the performance of the 7700k but still would like to leave a bit of an avenue open to future tasks such as gaming and streaming I would highly recommend the 8600K due to its 6 core 6 thread performance. Hyperthreading usually is only beneficial in CPUs with two cores that are to be used for gaming where the extra threads can improve gaming performance as they attempt to emulate quad-core performance. However, any more than that hyperthreading is detrimental towards gaming performance and has reported losses of between 0% to up to 15% in frames. However, if you aren't looking to heavily multitask the 7700k is still one of the best options (personally I would go for the 8600K(edited) if I had the money). 

Edited October 12, 2017 by another random person
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[DarkSmith2]

2 minutes ago, another random person said:

If you want similar to the performance of the 7700k but still would like to leave a bit of an avenue open to future tasks such as gaming and streaming I would highly recommend the 8600K due to its 6 core 6 thread performance. Hyperthreading usually is only beneficial in CPUs with two cores that are to be used for gaming where the extra threads can improve gaming performance as they attempt to emulate quad-core performance. However, any more than that hyperthreading is detrimental towards gaming performance and has reported losses of between 0% to up to 15% in frames. However, if you aren't looking to heavily multitask the 7700k is still one of the best options (personally I would go for the 6800K if I had the money). 

Why would you buy the 6800k, just because its soldered? Its worse then the 8700k you know that right?

[Steeler1994]

3 minutes ago, another random person said:

If you want similar to the performance of the 7700k but still would like to leave a bit of an avenue open to future tasks such as gaming and streaming I would highly recommend the 8600K due to its 6 core 6 thread performance. Hyperthreading usually is only beneficial in CPUs with two cores that are to be used for gaming where the extra threads can improve gaming performance as they attempt to emulate quad-core performance. However, any more than that hyperthreading is detrimental towards gaming performance and has reported losses of between 0% to up to 15% in frames. However, if you aren't looking to heavily multitask the 7700k is still one of the best options (personally I would go for the 6800K if I had the money). 

I should mention that i have until Oct 27 to basically return this which doesn't help my cause because you can't find Coffee Lake anywhere. Really put myself into a hole with this decision. From what I've seen/played, Ryzen just has a hard time pushing 144FPS, but its not a bad CPU by any means, just isn't what im looking for in terms of gaming. 

[DarkSmith2]

1 minute ago, Steeler1994 said:

I should mention that i have until Oct 27 to basically return this which doesn't help my cause because you can't find Coffee Lake anywhere. Really put myself into a hole with this decision. From what I've seen/played, Ryzen just has a hard time pushing 144FPS, but its not a bad CPU by any means, just isn't what im looking for in terms of gaming. 

keep it as a streaming rig?

[another random person]

4 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Why would you buy the 6800k, just because its soldered? Its worse then the 8700k you know that right?

My bad 8600K**

[another random person]

5 minutes ago, Steeler1994 said:

I should mention that i have until Oct 27 to basically return this which doesn't help my cause because you can't find Coffee Lake anywhere. Really put myself into a hole with this decision. From what I've seen/played, Ryzen just has a hard time pushing 144FPS, but its not a bad CPU by any means, just isn't what im looking for in terms of gaming. 

Apologies i typed the numbers the wrong way round

[DarkSmith2]

Im thinking of getting the 8700k. But i surely will wait until early next year, when christmas, premium pricestags and bad availability are over.

[Fardin]

get 8600k/8700k whatever you find, should fill your need well. 

[Zeitec]

9 hours ago, Steeler1994 said:

Hey all. I built a Ryzen 5 1600 PC OC to 3.8ghz/ 16gb 3000 mhz RAM last month and not liking it at all. For the games i play such as WoW, OW, LoL, CSGO, BF1, and maybe some other AAA titles, usually tends to favor better single core performance. I see drops in FPS compared to my old 4690k. For gaming, its the 7700k still worth it compared to the 8700k/8600k? I'm asking because i play 1080p/144hz with a GTX 1070. Since the purchase was early, i can still refund both my CPU and motherboard to the full price.

 

EDIT: Reason i upgraded my 4690k was because i had 2 dead DIMM slots in which i couldn't run dual channel memory. I was also getting tired of playing games and wanting to watch youtube videos or twitch streams, the FPS would drop heavily because of the CPU maxing out.

The 8600k is about 10 percent faster than the 7700k and the 8700k is about 50 percent faster. If you're in a rush the 7700k isn't the worst choice, but I wouldn't recommend it. I'd return the Ryzen and use your old Haswell until Coffee lake availability improves