Posted October 1, 2017 Hi, if you purchase a MSI Z270-A Pro, Socket-1151, will it be able to overclock an i7-7700k? ty Yes, the username is cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Yes it can. You shouldnt buy a 7700k now though. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Author Just now, Jurrunio said: Yes it can. You shouldnt buy a 7700k now though. For what reason? Yes, the username is cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, L0gic said: For what reason? Becuase the i7 8700k is very close from being released and it needs a z370 chipset to work on. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, L0gic said: For what reason? Coffee Lake is coming with 2 extra cores on i3s i5s and i7s with better overclocking (mildly, but still worth mentioning). Mobo arent compatible btw. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, L0gic said: For what reason? 8700k is here in a few days/weeks, first signs are good tho. Decent overclocker, decent performance, basically better value for your money. If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said: Becuase the i7 8700k is very close from being released and it needs a z370 chipset to work on. Just now, Jurrunio said: Coffee Lake is coming with 2 extra cores on i3s i5s and i7s with better overclocking (mildly, but still worth mentioning). Mobo arent compatible btw. Just now, samcool55 said: 8700k is here in a few days/weeks, first signs are good tho. Decent overclocker, decent performance, basically better value for your money. Haha, how do i miss this stuff. Thanks guys, the pc is for my brother so i will let him now. He is not that much into overclocking and such, but wants the opportunity now that he is using quite alot of money on the pc, but i guess more cores would not be bad. ..and ofc, the fact that this way his pc doesent lose its worth so quickly. Do we know anything on the pricing? Will it be more expensive for him? Yes, the username is cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, L0gic said: Haha, how do i miss this stuff. Thanks guys, the pc is for my brother so i will let him now. He is not that much into overclocking and such, but wants the opportunity now that he is using quite alot of money on the pc, but i guess more cores would not be bad. ..and ofc, the fact that this way his pc doesent lose its worth so quickly. Do we know anything on the pricing? Will it be more expensive for him? There are rumors but expect the cpu's to be a bit more expensive, the first weeks after launch cpu's are always a bit more expensive. I'm guessing (complete guess, no source!) 30 bucks more for the CPU is probably about right. Again, i can be wrong but that seems imo about right. If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, L0gic said: Do we know anything on the pricing? Will it be more expensive for him? Expect spending about $100 more on their first launch. Prices should come down after about a month to being about $20-30 more expensive than Kaby equivalent right now. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, samcool55 said: There are rumors but expect the cpu's to be a bit more expensive, the first weeks after launch cpu's are always a bit more expensive. I'm guessing (complete guess, no source!) 30 bucks more for the CPU is probably about right. Again, i can be wrong but that seems imo about right. 1 minute ago, Jurrunio said: Expect spending about $100 more on their first launch. Prices should come down after about a month to being about $20-30 more expensive than Kaby equivalent. Okay, we'll se then. Thank you alot for the help. Yes, the username is cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Author 15 minutes ago, samcool55 said: There are rumors but expect the cpu's to be a bit more expensive, the first weeks after launch cpu's are always a bit more expensive. I'm guessing (complete guess, no source!) 30 bucks more for the CPU is probably about right. Again, i can be wrong but that seems imo about right. 15 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: Expect spending about $100 more on their first launch. Prices should come down after about a month to being about $20-30 more expensive than Kaby equivalent right now. I can see that the argument for buying an i7-8700k instead of an i7-7700k is the two extra cores, and 8 extra threads, but the base clock on the i7-7700k is higher than the base clock on the i7-8700? That seems a bit weird? Yes, the username is cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, L0gic said: I can see that the argument for buying an i7-8700k instead of an i7-7700k is the two extra cores, and 8 extra threads, but the base clock on the i7-7700k is higher than the base clock on the i7-8700? That seems a bit weird? 2 extra cores, 4 extra threads, not 8 The base clock of the 8700 is lower because it has more cores. You can (according to rumors) overclock it to 4.8-4.9Ghz (i think) which is very similar to clockspeeds the 7700k can reach. If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Author Just now, samcool55 said: 2 extra cores, 4 extra threads, not 8 The base clock of the 8700 is lower because it has more cores. You can (according to rumors) overclock it to 4.8-4.9Ghz (i think) which is very similar to clockspeeds the 7700k can reach. damn, i can already feel the power. Thank you. Yes, the username is cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 44 minutes ago, L0gic said: I can see that the argument for buying an i7-8700k instead of an i7-7700k is the two extra cores, and 8 extra threads, but the base clock on the i7-7700k is higher than the base clock on the i7-8700? That seems a bit weird? I dont care if 8700k only has a base clock of 1GHz. It's overclockable anyway. Dont forget the K at the back though. They are two different chips. Early tests show that 8700k is good for 5 - 5.2GHz on 1.38V. Of course for the sake of lifespan you might make it run slower at about 4.6-4.8 GHz and 1.32-1.35V, but that means the single core performance of Coffee Lake is no worse, if not better than Kaby Lake. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 Author 1 hour ago, samcool55 said: 2 extra cores, 4 extra threads, not 8 The base clock of the 8700 is lower because it has more cores. You can (according to rumors) overclock it to 4.8-4.9Ghz (i think) which is very similar to clockspeeds the 7700k can reach. 29 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: I dont care if 8700k only has a base clock of 1GHz. It's overclockable anyway. Dont forget the K at the back though. They are two different chips. Early tests show that 8700k is good for 5 - 5.2GHz on 1.38V. Of course for the sake of lifespan you might make it run slower at about 4.6-4.8 GHz and 1.32-1.35V, but that means the single core performance of Coffee Lake is no worse, if not better than Kaby Lake. My brother does not overclock currently though. He just wants to be able to. If he doesent overclock, then Coffee lake will be a waste, or? Yes, the username is cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, L0gic said: My brother does not overclock currently though. He just wants to be able to. If he doesent overclock, then Coffee lake will be a waste, or? The base clock is already high enough, it will work fine. I doubt how long will the chip stay at default speeds though. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 2, 2017 Aside from Coffee Lake, I wouldn't buy a 7700K anyway knowing what I know now. Went from a 4790K to a 7700K and my temps went through the roof. Piss poor TIM application on an already hot running chip creates problems. Main System- Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic PCMR Limited Edition Motherboard: Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Hero WiFi CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X GPU: Asus GeForce RTX 2080Ti Strix OC RAM: 4x16GB (64GB) G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4 @ 3600MHz/C16 Storage: 1x Samsung 970 Evo 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD (OS), 4x Samsung 860 Evo 2TB SATA SSD PSU: EVGA Supernova G3 1000 Cooling: Custom Loop, EKWB Quantum Velocity Copper/Plexi w/ D-RGB Upgrade Kit and Black Frame, EKWB Quantum Vector Strix Nickel/Acetal D-RGB w/ EKWB Strix Backplate in Black, Watercool MO-RA3 420 LT (180-200mm Fan Mount, Classic Black Grill High Version, Wall Mounting Bracket, Heatkiller Tube Mounting Bracket, PCIe Slot Terminal Adapter), Heatkiller Tube 200 w/ EKWB D5 PWM Pump, Bitspower Fittings, 6x EKWB Vardar X3M D-RGB 120mm Fans, 4x Noctua NF-A20 Chromax 200mm Fans, EKWB ZMT Tubing, EKWB HD-PETG Tubing ITX System- Case: NCase M1 V6.1 Motherboard: Asus X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Impact CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Founders Edition RAM: 2x16GB (32GB) G.Skill Trident Z Neo @ 3600MHz/C16 Storage: 1x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB NVMe m.2 SSD (OS), 1x Samsung 860 Evo 2TB m.2 SSD (Storage) PSU: EVGA Supernova 650 GM (SFX) Cooling: Custom Loop, Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro Black Copper (AM4), Watercool Heatkiller IV RTX 2080Ti Acetal Nickel w/ Black Backplate, 2x XSPC TX240 Radiators, Iceman Cooling Ice P5 Pump/Reservoir Combo, Bitspower Fittings, EKWB ZMT Tubing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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