Grumpy CPU won't overclock

[Neddamka]

i7-3970X

Rampage IV Extreme (4502)

G.SKILL F3-19200CL10Q2-64GBZHD

GTX 690 x 2

SuperNOVA NEX1500

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

 

 

So this annoying little guy just doesn't want to go above his base clock speed. This is my first real attempt at a CPU overclock, just hoping it would speed up my productivity a bit, starting with one of the presets and then dialing it to what I'd like. Thing is it won't accept Asus' overclocking profiles, be it in the BIOS or CPU Level Up. Initiating the overclock immediately kills the computer, which then tries to reboot, sometimes successfully resetting itself but other times getting stuck in a loop of failures. Left at stock speeds it works just fine and never has any problems. At this point the only reason I haven't followed the plethora of guides on how to do a from-scratch manual overclock is because I doubt anything different will happen.

 

Is there something in the presets that a manual overclocking would avoid? As far as I know all the hardware is solid, but I don't know of any way to determine if the CPU/MoBo is faulty without swapping parts.

 

This happens whether or not the graphics cards are overclocked, if that info helps at all.

[Volbet]

Sounds like you lost the silicone lottery. 

 

I would recommend you to try manually overclocking, since presets and software overclocking can be buggy. You could also try updating to the latest bios. This might help getting some stability.

 

I'm not saying this will make the CPU overclock, but i might help.

[Lord Pantaloons]

I know what can fix a bad chip...

[Neddamka]

Sounds like you lost the silicone lottery. 

 

I would recommend you to try manually overclocking, since presets and software overclocking cn be buggy. You could also try updatin to the latest bios. This might help getting some stability.

 

I'm not saying this will make the CPU overclock, but i might help.

 

Yeah, 'tis as I feared. Figure I'd start with a 1% overclock and if that fails then I just sit and marvel at the misfortune.

 

I know what can fix a bad chip...

 

I don't know about the choice of tool. The hammer might work better.

[juretrn]

But Jeremy is quite a tool.

[Jumper118]

i7-3970X

Rampage IV Extreme (4502)

G.SKILL F3-19200CL10Q2-64GBZHD

GTX 690 x 2

SuperNOVA NEX1500

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

 

 

So this annoying little guy just doesn't want to go above his base clock speed. This is my first real attempt at a CPU overclock, just hoping it would speed up my productivity a bit, starting with one of the presets and then dialing it to what I'd like. Thing is it won't accept Asus' overclocking profiles, be it in the BIOS or CPU Level Up. Initiating the overclock immediately kills the computer, which then tries to reboot, sometimes successfully resetting itself but other times getting stuck in a loop of failures. Left at stock speeds it works just fine and never has any problems. At this point the only reason I haven't followed the plethora of guides on how to do a from-scratch manual overclock is because I doubt anything different will happen.

 

Is there something in the presets that a manual overclocking would avoid? As far as I know all the hardware is solid, but I don't know of any way to determine if the CPU/MoBo is faulty without swapping parts.

 

This happens whether or not the graphics cards are overclocked, if that info helps at all.

use the mutiplier to oc instead of the base clock because it alters your ram speed as well which can make it very unstable

[bcredeur97]

i7-3970X

Rampage IV Extreme (4502)

G.SKILL F3-19200CL10Q2-64GBZHD

GTX 690 x 2

SuperNOVA NEX1500

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

 

 

So this annoying little guy just doesn't want to go above his base clock speed. This is my first real attempt at a CPU overclock, just hoping it would speed up my productivity a bit, starting with one of the presets and then dialing it to what I'd like. Thing is it won't accept Asus' overclocking profiles, be it in the BIOS or CPU Level Up. Initiating the overclock immediately kills the computer, which then tries to reboot, sometimes successfully resetting itself but other times getting stuck in a loop of failures. Left at stock speeds it works just fine and never has any problems. At this point the only reason I haven't followed the plethora of guides on how to do a from-scratch manual overclock is because I doubt anything different will happen.

 

Is there something in the presets that a manual overclocking would avoid? As far as I know all the hardware is solid, but I don't know of any way to determine if the CPU/MoBo is faulty without swapping parts.

 

This happens whether or not the graphics cards are overclocked, if that info helps at all.

I for some reason want to say that something is wrong with your motherboard.....

[Neddamka]

I for some reason want to say that something is wrong with your motherboard.....

 

I wouldn't be terribly surprised. One of the PCIe 3.0 x16 slots doesn't work, which made me wonder what else could be wrong with it.

[ericlee30]

Sounds like you lost the silicone lottery. 

 

The Sandy-Bridge-E CPU's are soldered to the die ( they do not use the cheap thermal compound like on the mainstream CPU's), so unless Intel flat out did not put solder between the die and the sink, then the silicone lottery has nothing to do with the OP's problem. Just thought I would point that out

[SkulD]

The Sandy-Bridge-E CPU's are soldered to the die ( they do not use the cheap thermal compound like on the mainstream CPU's), so unless Intel flat out did not put solder between the die and the sink, then the silicone lottery has nothing to do with the OP's problem. Just thought I would point that out

That means it won't be as hot as the mainstream CPUs, but it doesn't guarantee a succesful overclock.

[Volbet]

The Sandy-Bridge-E CPU's are soldered to the die ( they do not use the cheap thermal compound like on the mainstream CPU's), so unless Intel flat out did not put solder between the die and the sink, then the silicone lottery has nothing to do with the OP's problem. Just thought I would point that out

The silicone lottery has to do with the quality of the silicone. CPUs are cut from a waffer, and the closer your CPU is to the center of the waffer, the better it overclocks (Generally speaking). We were talking about the silicone lottery long before there was thermal paste between the die and the IHS, and the silicone lottery also applies to AMD CPUs aswell.

[ericlee30]

 

That means it won't be as hot as the mainstream CPUs, but it doesn't guarantee a succesful overclock.

 

 

The silicone lottery has to do with the quality of the silicone. CPUs are cut from a waffer, and the closer your CPU is to the center of the waffer, the better it overclocks (Generally speaking). We were talking about the silicone lottery long before there was thermal paste between the die and the IHS, and the silicone lottery also applies to AMD CPUs aswell.

Ok to simplify this, the 3970X is cherry picked from the best waffers out of the batches, that is why that part of the waffer becomes a 3970X and goes down from there, 3960X, 3930K  3820 etc.. ( I do understand that it pretty much has to do with the waffer, but that's pretty much why you are spending $1039.99 on that piticuler CPU " to get the best possible waffer without having to guess and buy multiple CPU's to bend through them to find the best one", I have seen numerous people get better OC on their CPU's just by deliding ( because in theory better temps means better volts and better volts means higher stable overclocks ) and what I was trying to point out was it is pointless to delid a 3970X since it has pretty much the best thermal connectivity for CPU's. Now I'm not saying that you were or are talking about deliding the 3970X but yeah chances of it being the 3970X being the reason why he can not overclock very well is very unlikely and is being caused by something else, like the motherboard or the setting the OP is trying to do. The best way to OC is to manually do it " never trust or rely on preset's as they seam to cause more bad then good in most cases".

[Neddamka]

Okay, so after I get off work in the morning I'll flash the BIOS and give a manual overclock a shot, keeping it small and avoiding any preset inputs. After that, the only thing that I think it could be would be the board, which I may just have to live with for now. Very convenient that the Black Edition was just released...

[Leonard]

i7-3970X

Rampage IV Extreme (4502)

G.SKILL F3-19200CL10Q2-64GBZHD

GTX 690 x 2

SuperNOVA NEX1500

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

 

 

So this annoying little guy just doesn't want to go above his base clock speed. This is my first real attempt at a CPU overclock, just hoping it would speed up my productivity a bit, starting with one of the presets and then dialing it to what I'd like. Thing is it won't accept Asus' overclocking profiles, be it in the BIOS or CPU Level Up. Initiating the overclock immediately kills the computer, which then tries to reboot, sometimes successfully resetting itself but other times getting stuck in a loop of failures. Left at stock speeds it works just fine and never has any problems. At this point the only reason I haven't followed the plethora of guides on how to do a from-scratch manual overclock is because I doubt anything different will happen.

 

Is there something in the presets that a manual overclocking would avoid? As far as I know all the hardware is solid, but I don't know of any way to determine if the CPU/MoBo is faulty without swapping parts.

 

This happens whether or not the graphics cards are overclocked, if that info helps at all.

You should try the AISuite auto tuning and see how that goes. Not all ASUS overclock profiles work for everyone.

[xentric]

Ya i tried the ASUS level up and it pushed the voltage to far. All were stable for me but under a stress test it would hit thermal max.

[Analog]

AISuite is buggy as well. Most of its features like Fan Xpert, hang my PC. I don't recommend overclocking with it. Just do it through the BIOS. You can try to set the voltage at 1.35V and set the multiplier at 44x and then work your way from there. These settings are usually stable for LGA 2011 processors, however I can't give you 100% guarantee.