Best Mobo for R7 1700

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, jdwii said:

I have literary no idea what that means what is night theme? Kind of new to this forum 

200 posts. Anyways it looks like this

once you switch to it, you can never switch back. your post looks like this to us:

 

Next time, when you copy paste press "remove formatting", select the text and press the TX button

 

[aisle9]

7 hours ago, JDE said:

B350 Gaming 3 is actually pretty good

No, it's not. Crap VRMs, terrible overclocking, RAM compatibility issues with kits on its own QVL. The Gaming 3 is terrible.

 

The B350-F Strix is my current board after replacing the Gigabyte. Set me back $120 and I have no complaints outside of some occasional weirdness with the display not coming on after the system is powered up. That's a rare occurrence, and otherwise it's a solid board.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, aisle9 said:

No, it's not. Crap VRMs, terrible overclocking, RAM compatibility issues with kits on its own QVL. The Gaming 3 is terrible.

 

 

 

 

Actually though, I would recommend the X370 GAMING-K3 in your budget. Because because because.

 

[aisle9]

4 minutes ago, JDE said:

 

 

 

 

Actually though, I would recommend the X370 GAMING-K3 in your budget. Because because because.

 

lol, I didn't see that whole exchange until seeing this post. I agree with everything said about Gigabyte B350 boards, though. They look pretty and have wonderful sound drivers, but that's about the nicest thing that can be said about them.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, aisle9 said:

lol, I didn't see that whole exchange until seeing this post. I agree with everything said about Gigabyte B350 boards, though.

Yeah, but X370 boards from GIGABYTE are actually pretty good,

 

 

at least compared to the MSI ones.

[aisle9]

Just now, JDE said:

Yeah, but X370 boards from GIGABYTE are actually pretty good,

 

 

at least compared to the MSI ones.

Have they invented an MSI Ryzen board that POSTs in less than 60 seconds and is compatible with RAM (in general) yet?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, aisle9 said:

Have they invented an MSI Ryzen board that POSTs in less than 60 seconds and is compatible with RAM (in general) yet?

nah

[Guest]

Even on X370 Gigabyte isn't as competitive but overclocker CHEW says that's over the heat-sink more then the VRM. 

 

also 200 posts but look at when i joined may 14th...well darn that is 3 months haha 

 

Like i said to claim any B350 board besides maybe the carbon is ok to push voltage to 1.4V 4.0Ghz is simply insane as every board has terrible VRM for such tasks. 

 

If one doesn't care about looks and wants a 6 core ryzen and a b350 i say put a fan over the VRM and get yourself the coolest running 4+2 phase B350 board you can buy my guess is its probably the Prime B-350 Plus as its actually using the best VRM just maybe it needs a better heat-sink. 

 

My setup at stock with great airflow i see 66C on my VRM the gigabyte is seeing 30C more which is just really terrible. 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, jdwii said:

also 200 posts but look at when i joined may 14th...well darn that is 3 months haha 

I only joined in Febuary

 

 

oh wait go look at all my old accounts and I joined in May 2016

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, jdwii said:

Even on X370 Gigabyte isn't as competitive but overclocker CHEW says that's over the heat-sink more then the VRM. 

 

also 200 posts but look at when i joined may 14th...well darn that is 3 months haha 

 

Like i said to claim any B350 board besides maybe the carbon is ok to push voltage to 1.4V 4.0Ghz is simply insane as every board has terrible VRM for such tasks. 

 

If one doesn't care about looks and wants a 6 core ryzen and a b350 i say put a fan over the VRM and get yourself the coolest running 4+2 phase B350 board you can buy my guess is its probably the Prime B-350 Plus as its actually using the best VRM just maybe it needs a better heat-sink. 

 

My setup at stock with great airflow i see 66C on my VRM the gigabyte is seeing 30C more which is just really terrible. 

I wish motherboards had active VRM cooling again...

 

 

sigh............................................

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, jdwii said:

Like i said to claim any B350 board besides maybe the carbon is ok to push voltage to 1.4V 4.0Ghz is simply insane as every board has terrible VRM for such tasks.

My thinking would be that if someone is intending to push Ryzen to the ragged edge of its performance like that, a B350 motherboard probably wasn't right for them in the first place. My 1700 runs at 3.8GHz 24/7 on auto voltage, which usually hovers between 1.33-1.35. It cranks up to 1.38 and rarely 1.4 under synthetic load.

 

If I fully understood how offset voltage worked, I'd use it more. It seems like the offset is more of a guideline for your board than anything else. I've used offsets to put the voltage at 1.375 only to watch the board decide that 1.41v makes more sense, so I just stick to auto for now.

[aisle9]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

I wish motherboards had active VRM cooling again...

 

 

sigh............................................

Boards using a downdraft CPU cooler sort of do.

[Guest]

LOL i'm laughing as i use this i like everything about this board but the VRM even my ram always worked at 2933 but i bought ryzen once AGESA 1.0.0.4 came out. 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144018

 

It literary "burned" itself up. Man i bet he was pushing voltage to high 

 

MSI uses crappy NIKO i keep saying this but i'm selling my switch and getting a asrock Taichi

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

I just want a good mobo ( r7 1700 amd) reliable and worth its money , holding 3200 mhz ram , and user-friendly meaning that me ( a newbie , first time booting a pc ) will do the work . quick answears but ill prob go with Asus Prime X370 Pro or Asus Rog Strix B350-F Gaming otherwise an asrock

[Nena Trinity]

ASRock? :3

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

ASRock? :3

ha... funny

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

 

2 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

ASRock? :3

 did u just come here for that or will u be helpfull and recommend a freakin board?

[just_dave]

6 hours ago, jdwii said:

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/1183/ab350-gaming-vrm-mos-temperature

 

I will quote someone at this forum

"Hi,
I have a nice Ryzen 1700X build, which runs flawless at stock clock settings (3.4 GHz).
At this speed the system is stable at encoding videos with handbrake (100% cpu usage) and the temperatures rise about CPU 70°C (158°F), VRM 106 °C (223°F) - so far so good -

But when I try to do just a little overclocking to 3.6 Ghz the VRM gets over 120°C (248°F), CPU 82°C (180°F) - after about 6-10 Minutes it does an automatic shutdown.
Btw all fans are running at full speed!" 

 

Can we please stop recommending Gigabyte B350 boards please.  

Hello darkness my old friend, the Trash VRMs on Gigabyte are all up to Gaming K5 which still has the junk VRMs 4+3

[just_dave]

2 hours ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

I just want a good mobo ( r7 1700 amd) reliable and worth its money , holding 3200 mhz ram , and user-friendly meaning that me ( a newbie , first time booting a pc ) will do the work . quick answears but ill prob go with Asus Prime X370 Pro or Asus Rog Strix B350-F Gaming otherwise an asrock

Get the Prime, B350 has VRMs that wouldn´t hold up any overclocking.

[just_dave]

4 hours ago, JDE said:

I wish motherboards had active VRM cooling again...

 

 

sigh............................................

X399s have

[just_dave]

4 hours ago, JDE said:

Yeah, but X370 boards from GIGABYTE are actually pretty good,

 

 

at least compared to the MSI ones.

Only Gaming K7/ Gaming 5 are good, the rest has the same shit VRMs

[just_dave]

EVERYONE WHO ARGUES ABOUT VRMS WITH ME GO LOOK HERE VRMs 

I will recap it for all who argue with me/ @jdwii 

MSI mobos except XPower (which is the best trash) are junk

Gigabyte mobos are junk except Gaming K7/Gaming 5

Asus and ASRock are completely fine

[GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls]

21 minutes ago, dave_k said:

EVERYONE WHO ARGUES ABOUT VRMS WITH ME GO LOOK HERE VRMs 

I will recap it for all who argue with me/ @jdwii 

MSI mobos except XPower (which is the best trash) are junk

Gigabyte mobos are junk except Gaming K7/Gaming 5

Asus and ASRock are completely fine

ty for the advice . i will buy the asus prime mobo thnx to you. 

But just to make clear , can you elaborate what vrm is? just a short little paragraph of what it is would be fine if u dont want to type a whole essay

[just_dave]

1 minute ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

ty for the advice . i will buy the asus prime mobo thnx to you. 

But just to make clear , can you elaborate what vrm is? just a short little paragraph of what it is would be fine if u dont want to type a whole essay

VRM is a set of components that convert the voltage coming from the power supply (12V) to the voltage that your CPU needs (1.3) and provide power to the CPU.

It is made out of 4 main components

Capacitors

Inductors

MOSFETs

and Voltage controller

The more phases it has, the better is the voltage precision and stability

the are tons of mosfets out there but from what i can tell, on AM4 are mostly shitty mosfets, but Asus did a great job and included a very efficient (this means that most energy coming to the mosfet stays at its state and only very small part is converted to heat) mosfets on X370, on boards X370 Prime Pro, X370-F Strix and Crosshair 6. Their B350s have pretty good VRMs too, but with not enough phases to overclock Ryzen 7 properly (1.35+V).

[Nena Trinity]

3 hours ago, GirvanaWantsBinnieBalls said:

 

 did u just come here for that or will u be helpfull and recommend a freakin board?

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/AMDAM4/