Cheapish build gta v 1080p

[daniielrp]

Hey guys, 

 

So looking to build something for my wife to play gta online with me, and with some room to grow and get her more into PC gaming.

 

Already have a 1080p monitor that tops out at 60hz, so aiming for 1080p at 60fps stable, med-high settings.

 

I’ve never had a amd processor, but open to it - though I know nothing of their naming/numbering scheme so would need help to understand their SKUs. 

 

Just looking for recommendations for cpu/mobo and gpu - the rest I can sort.

 

Thanks for any help! 

[LHJKO]

budget?

[daniielrp]

Just now, Vernw3 said:

budget?

Well lets start around 500gbp, so that around $650, but open to options - I can save money in other areas so long as the essentials are good.

[LHJKO]

Just now, daniielrp said:

Well lets start around 500gbp, so that around $650, but open to options - I can save money in other areas so long as the essentials are good.

whats gbp whats your location?

[emosun]

when you're on a lower budget linus always recommends an existing previous gen high end machine over building new. (and they're right thats what you always do)

an older xeon e5 2670 workstation paired with a newer gpu and power supply will destory anything you can build new in the ryzen family for only 650$

[LHJKO]

Just now, emosun said:

when you're on a lower budget linus always recommends an existing previous gen high end machine over building new. (and they're right thats what you always do)

an older xeon e5 2670 workstation paired with a newer gpu and power supply will destory anything you can build new in the ryzen family for only 650$

ya but then you cant upgrade and have to buy a newmotherboard new ram and a new cpu 

[daniielrp]

4 minutes ago, Vernw3 said:

whats gbp whats your location?

£

 

UK

[Brooksie359]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NCXtGf it is honestly kinda hard to build a cheap computer for gta V as it is both cpu and gpu intensive.

[daniielrp]

3 minutes ago, emosun said:

when you're on a lower budget linus always recommends an existing previous gen high end machine over building new. (and they're right thats what you always do)

an older xeon e5 2670 workstation paired with a newer gpu and power supply will destory anything you can build new in the ryzen family for only 650$

 

Yeh could do - that’s pretty much what I did with mine (older LGA 2011 socket).

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Vernw3 said:

ya but then you cant upgrade and have to buy a newmotherboard new ram and a new cpu 

so paying the same amount for something that's slower , and will eventually get faster after spending EVEN MORE money on it later is better?

Amd's "abandon a platform for 5 years straight" plan isn't a much better option. 

[daniielrp]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NCXtGf it is honestly kinda hard to build a cheap computer for gta V as it is both cpu and gpu intensive.

Looks good though I seem to remember gta v needing a quad core?

[LHJKO]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£95.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£79.48 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£74.68 @ More Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£42.39 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card  (£138.10 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW RED ATX Mid Tower Case  (£34.00 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.57 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £512.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-18 22:52 BST+0100

[daniielrp]

Just now, emosun said:

so paying the same amount for something that's slower , and will eventually get faster after spending EVEN MORE money on it later is better?

Amd's "abandon a platform for 5 years straight" plan isn't a much better option. 

That’s what I’m worried about - having never used amd cpus I don’t know what the situation will be like in a couple years time.

[emosun]

Just now, daniielrp said:

That’s what I’m worried about - having never used amd cpus I don’t know what the situation will be like in a couple years time.

Yea I think you're better off packing as much power as you can into it right now than having something slow that will hopefully have some sort of upgrade years from now.

[Brooksie359]

Just now, daniielrp said:

Looks good though I seem to remember gta v needing a quad core?

yes and no, obviously if you can you want a quadcore but that doesn't mean it wont run. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-pentium-g4620-g4560-cpu,4934-2.html they have some benchmarks with the Pentium in gaming and one of them is gta V

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

yes and no, obviously if you can you want a quadcore but that doesn't mean it wont run. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-pentium-g4620-g4560-cpu,4934-2.html they have some benchmarks with the Pentium in gaming and one of them is gta V

I wouldn't pay 600$ for a dual core anything in 2017.

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, emosun said:

Yea I think you're better off packing as much power as you can into it right now than having something slow that will hopefully have some sort of upgrade years from now.

that is true to an extent. If you are getting a cpu on an older platform that is slow enough to justify upgrading right away then I would say it isn't worth. if the cpu on the older platform is going to last you a couple of years at least then i would say its is worth.

[Brooksie359]

Just now, emosun said:

I wouldn't pay 600$ for a dual core anything in 2017.

they were asking for a 500 quid build and so I choose the cheapest decent cpu i could find.

[emosun]

get one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-T3600-Xeon-E5-2670-2-6ghz-8-Cores-16gb-100gb-SSD-1tb-Win7-64-/292165547860?hash=item44066c7754:g:7y8AAOSwTglYkf-P

slap a gtx 1060 in it. and you're good to go , a damn sight faster than a dual core pentium lol

[LHJKO]

3 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

they were asking for a 500 quid build and so I choose the cheapest decent cpu i could find.

you could just use the 1200 like i suggested

[emosun]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

they were asking for a 500 quid build and so I choose the cheapest decent cpu i could find.

you gotta learn when a budget is too low , building from scratch has deminishing returns. 

that why you ended up with a terrible dual core pentium.

again , like they say in every linus video ever , small budget = previous gen high end stuff. as opposed to current gen low end dual core junk.

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

get one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-T3600-Xeon-E5-2670-2-6ghz-8-Cores-16gb-100gb-SSD-1tb-Win7-64-/292165547860?hash=item44066c7754:g:7y8AAOSwTglYkf-P

slap a gtx 1060 in it. and you're good to go , a damn sight faster than a dual core pentium lol

better off getting an older cpu 4 faster cores rather than 8 slow ones because the cpu would get destroyed in any single threaded workload by any modern cpu.

[emosun]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

the cpu would get destroyed in any single threaded workload

oh dang , solitare and ms paint performance will suffer  

[Brooksie359]

You act like I don't know this. I just gave an option if they wanted to build new. I am not going to create a build with used parts because I have no idea what the pricing on used parts in their area is. 

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

oh dang , solitare and ms paint performance will suffer  

and games.......

games are heavily single cored. you go from a cpu with not enough cores to a cpu with not enough frequency. the Pentium would be better at that point because it at least has an upgrade path to a modern cpu where as the 8 core is basically just bad for gaming. like i said you would want an old xeon with 4 cores not 8 as the 4 core xeons have higher frequency.