New GPU low fps

[NicoGutierrez]

Ive upgraded my gtx 970 to a 1080 ti some days ago, and since then ive noticed most games are actually performing worse than before. My cpu is an I5 4690K which ive never overclocked since i still use the stock cooler, but my temps arent bad, never been more than 75C, but according to the task manager, its generally at 100% usage in demanding games, I dont know if thats normal. I have 8gb of ddr3 1866mhz ram which also hit 100% usage often. The storage i use for games is a western digital 7200rpm 1tb hdd. The new gpus temps are really good, i havent hit 70C, the fans are working perfectly, and usage is generally at 50% but sometimes it goes higher. I havent been able to upgrade to a 4k monitor, i plan to do it in a couple of months, so im still gaming at 1080p, and with my 970, i was able to almost max out settings in most games and still get near 60fps, but now, with the same settings, im getting lower fps and frame drops pretty often, especially in my modded skyrim, in which i used to get 50-60fps, but now every time i turn the camera i drop to 20fps, sometimes it even freezes for a couple of seconds. Something similar happens in Just Cause 3 or Dishonored 2. Ive used ddu to remove my previous drivers and installed the new ones from nvidias page. Id really appreciate any ideas as to why this happens. 

 

TL;DR

new 1080 ti, lower frame rates than when i had a 970. I deleted previous drivers and downloaded new ones.

 

Specs:

I5 4690K no overclock stock cooler

8gb ddr3 ram

Gigabyte z97x gaming 5

WD 1tb 7200rpm hdd

[Shiv78]

1 minute ago, NicoGutierrez said:

its generally at 100% usage in demanding games, I dont know if thats normal.

You have a pretty heavy CPU bottleneck. GPU should be going up to 99%. 

Turn up some graphics settings. Consider a CPU upgrade as well.

[Changis]

1 minute ago, NicoGutierrez said:

Ive upgraded my gtx 970 to a 1080 ti some days ago, and since then ive noticed most games are actually performing worse than before. My cpu is an I5 4690K which ive never overclocked since i still use the stock cooler, but my temps arent bad, never been more than 75C, but according to the task manager, its generally at 100% usage in demanding games, I dont know if thats normal. I have 8gb of ddr3 1866mhz ram which also hit 100% usage often. The storage i use for games is a western digital 7200rpm 1tb hdd. The new gpus temps are really good, i havent hit 70C, the fans are working perfectly, and usage is generally at 50% but sometimes it goes higher. I havent been able to upgrade to a 4k monitor, i plan to do it in a couple of months, so im still gaming at 1080p, and with my 970, i was able to almost max out settings in most games and still get near 60fps, but now, with the same settings, im getting lower fps and frame drops pretty often, especially in my modded skyrim, in which i used to get 50-60fps, but now every time i turn the camera i drop to 20fps, sometimes it even freezes for a couple of seconds. Something similar happens in Just Cause 3 or Dishonored 2. Ive used ddu to remove my previous drivers and installed the new ones from nvidias page. Id really appreciate any ideas as to why this happens

i5 will bottleneck the 1080ti.. get a i7 or amd equivalent

[Majestic]

Why do people expect anyone to read these walls of text? Write a concise question with the additional information provided as condensed as possible.

[NicoGutierrez]

Just now, Changis said:

i5 will bottleneck the 1080ti.. get a i7 or amd equivalent

 

1 minute ago, Shiv78 said:

You have a pretty heavy CPU bottleneck. GPU should be going up to 99%. 

Turn up some graphics settings. Consider a CPU upgrade as well.

Really? Ive seen a lot of people saying this cpu should be enough for pretty much any game at higher settings, but if it is that, why did it start happening now? I thought a bottleneck would result in my fps remaining the same, but why would it be even lower than my previous performance? Does a bottleneck lead to lower performance than what my both my gpu and cpu could do? And would buying a good AIO cooler and overclocking to ~4.4ghz solve it? Because id have to buy a new mobo and ram to upgrade to newer gen cpus, might as well build a new pc.

[Changis]

4 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Why do people expect anyone to read these walls of text? Write a concise question with the additional information provided as condensed as possible.

i agree, however, i skim-read "1080ti" and "intel i5" 

[Princess Luna]

This has nothing to do with bottlenecking, OP simply didn't DDU in safe mode to reinstall drivers fresh new on the GPU exchange.

[Shiv78]

2 minutes ago, NicoGutierrez said:

I thought a bottleneck would result in my fps remaining the same, but why would it be even lower than my previous performance?

Turn up your settings, the GPU is only at 50%. 

 

2 minutes ago, NicoGutierrez said:

And would buying a good AIO cooler and overclocking to ~4.4ghz solve it

It will help but won't solve it. 

 

2 minutes ago, NicoGutierrez said:

Because id have to buy a new mobo and ram to upgrade to newer gen cpus, might as well build a new pc.

um no the 4770k and 4790k still exist lol

 

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

This has nothing to do with bottlenecking, OP simply didn't DDU in safe mode to reinstall drivers fresh new on the GPU exchange.

Are you sure? CPU at 100% and GPU at 50%?

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Shiv78 said:

Are you sure? CPU at 100% and GPU at 50%?

A common issue that ALSO happens when your running broken drivers ^^

I am not saying there is not a bottleneck, I'm just saying the performance will for sure increase once he does the right steps.

[NicoGutierrez]

10 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Why do people expect anyone to read these walls of text? Write a concise question with the additional information provided as condensed as possible.

I never use forums, didnt realise it was that long, i added a tldr

[NicoGutierrez]

4 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

Turn up your settings, the GPU is only at 50%.

 

It will help but won't solve it. 

 

um no the 4770k and 4790k still exist lol

 

Are you sure? CPU at 100% and GPU at 50%?

 I tried with the highest and lowest setttings possible at most games i have, at the highest settings i get really low fps.

Would a 4790k increase my performance enough to remove the bottleneck? Ive heard that the 4690k and 4790k arent that different for gaming.

[Shiv78]

Just now, NicoGutierrez said:

 I tried with the highest and lowest setttings possible at most games i have, at the highest settings i get really low fps.

Would a 4790k increase my performance enough to remove the bottleneck? Ive heard that the 4690k and 4790k arent that different for gaming.

 

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

This has nothing to do with bottlenecking, OP simply didn't DDU in safe mode to reinstall drivers fresh new on the GPU exchange.

try this

[NicoGutierrez]

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

This has nothing to do with bottlenecking, OP simply didn't DDU in safe mode to reinstall drivers fresh new on the GPU exchange.

I did that exactly, maybe i did something wrong, ill try doing it again but im pretty sure i did it right the first time.

[WereCat]

16 minutes ago, NicoGutierrez said:

 

Really? Ive seen a lot of people saying this cpu should be enough for pretty much any game at higher settings, but if it is that, why did it start happening now? I thought a bottleneck would result in my fps remaining the same, but why would it be even lower than my previous performance? Does a bottleneck lead to lower performance than what my both my gpu and cpu could do? And would buying a good AIO cooler and overclocking to ~4.4ghz solve it? Because id have to buy a new mobo and ram to upgrade to newer gen cpus, might as well build a new pc.

i5 4690k at stock clocks will slightly bottleneck even GTX 1070 in most games. GTX 1080ti will be starving with this CPU. Consider upgrading to 4770k or 4790k if you can get hands on one of these for cheap (even used) and you will be fine.

 

Also as was mentioned. DDU for uninstalling drivers and install new ones after.

 

This is just with GTX 1080 and not a 1080ti and you already can see a massive difference especially in the minimum FPS.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, NicoGutierrez said:

I did that exactly, maybe i did something wrong, ill try doing it again but im pretty sure i did it right the first time.

The thing is, your issue is not  CPU bottlenecking exclusively because your performance is too low even if, it is a driver related issue or thermal related issue and so on, we need to do a deeper troubleshooting and adding information such as run cinebench with both cpu-z and msi afterburner open to read clocks and temps and so on will help us figure out your issue.

 

Remember to download the latest version of DDU and run it on safemode always, once done check dxdiag.exe to make sure no drivers but Microsoft's generic one is running, only then reinstall the latest GameReady driver.

[NicoGutierrez]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

The thing is, your issue is not  CPU bottlenecking exclusively because your performance is too low even if, it is a driver related issue or thermal related issue and so on, we need to do a deeper troubleshooting and adding information such as run cinebench with both cpu-z and msi afterburner open to read clocks and temps and so on will help us figure out your issue.

 

Remember to download the latest version of DDU and run it on safemode always, once done check dxdiag.exe to make sure no drivers but Microsoft's generic one is running, only then reinstall the latest GameReady driver.

Thanks. As soon as I get home Ill reinstall drivers with DDU, and run firestrike and cinebench.

[JJVGaming]

Enable dsr in shadowplay for 4k so GPU is used more for gaming performance. I would plan to upgrade to a new CPU cuz this set-up is kind unbalanced atm

[NicoGutierrez]

21 minutes ago, WereCat said:

i5 4690k at stock clocks will slightly bottleneck even GTX 1070 in most games. GTX 1080ti will be starving with this CPU. Consider upgrading to 4770k or 4790k if you can get hands on one of these for cheap (even used) and you will be fine.

 

Also as was mentioned. DDU for uninstalling drivers and install new ones after.

 

This is just with GTX 1080 and not a 1080ti and you already can see a massive difference especially in the minimum FPS.

Thx, Ill try upgrading to get the best performance posssible, but i still dont understand whether a bottleneck means that both the gpu and cpu will under perform, giving me lower performances than before; because if it wasnt like that, id get at least the same framerates i got before, not as low as they are now.

[WereCat]

16 minutes ago, NicoGutierrez said:

Thx, Ill try upgrading to get the best performance posssible, but i still dont understand whether a bottleneck means that both the gpu and cpu will under perform, giving me lower performances than before; because if it wasnt like that, id get at least the same framerates i got before, not as low as they are now.

No, you definitely shouldn't get lower performance than before.That's not how CPU bottleneck work. You definitely have some other issue alongside it. I just haven't read your post entirely before commenting.

[NicoGutierrez]

4 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

The thing is, your issue is not  CPU bottlenecking exclusively because your performance is too low even if, it is a driver related issue or thermal related issue and so on, we need to do a deeper troubleshooting and adding information such as run cinebench with both cpu-z and msi afterburner open to read clocks and temps and so on will help us figure out your issue.

 

Remember to download the latest version of DDU and run it on safemode always, once done check dxdiag.exe to make sure no drivers but Microsoft's generic one is running, only then reinstall the latest GameReady driver.

So I've ran DDU in safe mode and installed the latest Nvidia drivers, and it is a bit better, but I'm still getting really big lag spikes. I ran Cinebench R15 and got 541cb in cpu and 98,22fps in opengl. In firestrike I got 16.218, with 29.060 in graphics, 7.022 in physics and 6.902 in combined. Cpu Temps were generally at 65-70C and gpu ranged from 60 to 70C.

[B1grob95]

A little late but did you ever solve the problem?