Would you suggest to go with water cooling with Threadripper?(Cooler master cosmos s case)

[ISUther]

Hello, 

I am planing to build Threadripper PC.
And clock it also to 4.0 ghz if possible. 
Would you recommend AIO cooler for CPU? (I am afraid that AIO cooler pump is not good)
Or go with custom water cooling kit or air cooling?
I have Cooler Master Cosmis S case. 
I am not sure that 399 board will fit (screw holes etc)
Also afraid of leaks.
 

[themctipers]

wait for some benchs on how the temps are on threadripper, and see if it is necessary to go water, 

[Droidbot]

4 minutes ago, themctipers said:

wait for some benchs on how the temps are on threadripper, and see if it is necessary to go water, 

they're out

 

550w+ TDP under load for the 16 core model OC to 3.9

[themctipers]

Just now, Droidbot said:

they're out

 

550w+ TDP under load for the 16 core model OC to 3.9

wat

i thought those were coming out later when the reviewers had more time or whatever 

[ISUther]

Can you give source?

[scottyseng]

7 minutes ago, rrubberr said:

Which is absolutely terrifying for a CPU, mind you. My two half decade old CPU's don't use that combined.

Yeah, I'm kind of going the used Xeon route (the broadwell-E and Haswell-E ES chips are pretty cheap for the core count) for my high core count needs...it's getting to the point where these high core count overclocking chips will need a very good cooling solution to run them overclocked...

 

I'm just amazed that if you were to get the 1950X (or worse, overclock a Skylake X CPU to the limit), a few Vega GPUs, you could destroy at 1000W PSU like nothing. haha.

[RoryDash]

I would have to say yes, Haswell E [X99] was really the first line of 'should' be water-cooled cpu's for the 6 & 8 core ones. With Threadripper we're looking at a huge cpu with quite a high power draw and TDP. So for the sake of longevity, looks and overclocking abilities it would be wise to invest in an AIO or custom loop for them.

[DrMikeNZ]

If you are afraid that AIO cooler pumps are no good then don't get them. Excluding DoA, I have only had about 40% of my AIO coolers fail in the first 11 months so you are more likely than not to be fine.

If you want to keep the CPU cool at 4.0GHz, you will likely need to water cool. Just set aside the cost of the system in a contingency fund to replace any dead components in the rare case that there is a leak.

 

Many of the X399 boards are ATX and should fit in most cases, some are E-ATX (eg Asus Zenith) and might be a bit harder to fit in standard cases, although the Cosmos is a behemoth and shouldn't be an issue (it supports ATX and E-ATX).

 

4 minutes ago, scottyseng said:

I'm just amazed that if you were to get the 1950X (or worse, overclock a Skylake X CPU to the limit), a few Vega GPUs, you could destroy at 1000W PSU like nothing.

it wasn't long ago that 1000W+ power supplies were excessive and a bit of a joke with no real need for them in the consumer space and it was expected that power consumption was only going to get lower. The jokes on us, and the PSU manufacturers must have had a bloody amazing crystal ball.

[scottyseng]

1 minute ago, DrMikeNZ said:

it wasn't long ago that 1000W+ power supplies were excessive and a bit of a joke with no real need for them in the consumer space and it was expected that power consumption was only going to get lower. The jokes on us, and the PSU manufacturers must have had a bloody amazing crystal ball.

Yeah, though at least you get the performance for your wattage draw. 16 cores overclocked would've been a pipe dream last year.

 

I'm curious to see what CPUs do next though. They can't just keep tossing cores and clocks at the problem (to an extent). Otherwise power draw and cooling will be through the roof for the next gen CPUs from AMD and Intel...

[ISUther]

If to go with water cooling and if with AIO what would you recommend?
If with custom what custom kit would you recommend?

 

[RoryDash]

6 minutes ago, ISUther said:

If to go with water cooling and if with AIO what would you recommend?
If with custom what custom kit would you recommend?

 

AIO: Corsair H115i

[Droidbot]

37 minutes ago, themctipers said:

wat

i thought those were coming out later when the reviewers had more time or whatever 

[themctipers]

Just now, Droidbot said:

holy shit.

[Evolution90]

That is CPU + GPU load, DroidBot should perhaps learn to read.

[DrMikeNZ]

16 minutes ago, scottyseng said:

Yeah, though at least you get the performance for your wattage draw. 16 cores overclocked would've been a pipe dream last year.

 

I'm curious to see what CPUs do next though. They can't just keep tossing cores and clocks at the problem (to an extent). Otherwise power draw and cooling will be through the roof for the next gen CPUs from AMD and Intel...

I expect a node shrink and a little reprieve on power draw to a point. After that we might see a few different forks in technology competing as CPU manufacturers experiment with exotic transistor materials to overcome clock speed hurdles.

 

8 minutes ago, ISUther said:

If to go with water cooling and if with AIO what would you recommend?
If with custom what custom kit would you recommend?

 

For an AIO, the Kraken X62 is pretty good, a TR4 bracket is included for asetek coolers (which the kraken x62 is) with the processor.

For a custom kit, I am not sure if there are any kits with included TR4 bracket yet.

 

2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

-snip-

Ouch, I think I might need another power point and breaker to run one of those.

[scottyseng]

10 minutes ago, ISUther said:

If to go with water cooling and if with AIO what would you recommend?
If with custom what custom kit would you recommend?

Personally for the high core chips, I'd recommend a 360 AIO...like the Fractal S36. They really push out a lot of heat.

 

@themctipers Imagine that with a few Vega GPUs now. haha. or the 18 core Intel CPU...

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, Evolution90 said:

That is CPU + GPU load, DroidBot should perhaps learn to read.

Good point, I'm tired and I read it this morning but still it's a fucking power lover

[themctipers]

Just now, scottyseng said:

Personally for the high core chips, I'd recommend a 360 AIO...like the Fractal S36. They really push out a lot of heat.

 

@themctipers Imagine that with a few Vega GPUs now. haha. or the 18 core Intel CPU...

nvidiot says 400w 1080

[Evolution90]

Just now, Droidbot said:

Good point, I'm tired and I read it this morning but still it's a fucking power lover

It's going to be with 16 cores at 4ghz though.

 

Intel are actually behind the curve for efficiency here, you will need a beefy PSU and CPU cooler, but TR does deliver pretty astounding results (not for gaming mind you but who buys this shit for gaming?)

[scottyseng]

Just now, Evolution90 said:

Intel are actually behind the curve for efficiency here, you will need a beefy PSU and CPU cooler, but TR does deliver pretty astounding results (not for gaming mind you but who buys this shit for gaming?)

Sadly I have a cousin who wants to either get a 1950X or 7900X for gaming...to be overkill...I'm like man...a 7700K is what you want.

[ISUther]

Those  are components i have at the moment: 
* Cooler Master Cosmos S kast 
Link: http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/cosmos-s/ 

* Power Supply is: Everest 1010 
Link: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/everest-1010-power-supply-unit-review.html 

* Graphics card is:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 (3072 MB) 

Memory what i was thinking about to get is (goal is that when i add ram i do not ocupy with 64 gb all ram slots as was planing to buy more later and add those later up to 128 gb, the led thingy for ram-s is not important for me): 
 G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400MHz (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model F4-2400C15Q-64GTZR 

And i am not buy this for gaming but i want to game on it also. 
I do game also and i want to game on max settings but main goal is 3D. 

I use: 
Houdini, Maya, zbrush, Mari, Substance Painter, Substance Designer, AE, Photoshop, Topogun 2, 3D coat, Trapcode and more. 

https://tanel.artstation.com/

 

[Evolution90]

59 minutes ago, ISUther said:

Hello, 

I am planing to build Threadripper PC.
And clock it also to 4.0 ghz if possible. 
Would you recommend AIO cooler for CPU? (I am afraid that AIO cooler pump is not good)
Or go with custom water cooling kit or air cooling?
I have Cooler Master Cosmis S case. 
I am not sure that 399 board will fit (screw holes etc)
Also afraid of leaks.
 

What are you planning to do with this build?

 

For streaming, gaming, some video work, the 7700K is where you should be looking.

 

For serious streaming (very high quality) video work, gaming then Ryzen 7 is where you should look.

 

Producing video work on a large scale? want some CPU overhead to game? watch porn, chat on Facebook and chat up new fetishes on POF? TR might get the job done.

[scottyseng]

8 minutes ago, ISUther said:

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As long as you have at least four sticks of RAM, you're fine (quad channel).

 

PSU seems a bit old though. It should still run fine (just less power efficient).

 

At least you have a good reason for needing threadripper...unlike my cousin who wants it to game on. Or my other cousin who just magically became a hard core content creator after making a few logos (and the 5820K isn't enough apparently).

 

You should see a massive difference in those softwares. I usually work on my 14 core Xeon when doing 3D work (Maya and 3DS Max). I need to learn how to use Zbrush eventually. Curious, what renderer do you use? I use vRay myself.

[ISUther]

I use: 
Houdini, Maya, zbrush, Mari, Substance Painter, Substance Designer, AE, Photoshop, Topogun 2, 3D coat, Trapcode and more. 

https://tanel.artstatio

I do 3D stuff. 
Modeling, Digital Sculpting, Texturing, Rendering, VFX, Simulations. 
But i also like to game. 

CPU power and cores are needed in zbrush and especially in Houdini. 
Houdini render engine is Mantra. And mantra is CPU renderer
http://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini/render/understanding

RAM i need for simulations. (Flip fluids, Pyro etc)
 

But question lies are atm available AIO-s cover threadripper. 

[ISUther]

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