Okay 1080ti any pro who can help?

[zindan]

Okay, I think I have decided now. 

Was gonna stick with h60 cooler but everyone is complaining about i7 7700k so it makes me nervous. I will NOT overclock. 

 

And some people are telling me the case isnt worrh it, I just love the look of it ans it has good airflow I think. Many fan spots and so on. 

 

Really appriciate honest answers thanks

i know this is like the third time im posting almost the same thread but I cant decide.

 

 

[QuantumBit]

1. If you're not going to overclock, get a non Z motherboard, and a non K i7

2. dont get a 7700k, go for a r7 1700

[Drake10114]

1 hour ago, zindan said:

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Try and use PCPP if you can, makes it alot easier to skim read.

1. If your not OCing, go w/ a b250 and i7-7700.

2. Don't get a Founder's Edition of cards.. get aftermarket cards (I think that's the term). They are cheaper, have better cooling and faster.

 What country are you from? Someone could give you alternative builds for whatever budget you have (also what is your budget)

[m0k]

5 minutes ago, QuantumBit said:

2. dont get a 7700k, go for a r7 1700

why

[jkjoonas]

2 minutes ago, QuantumBit said:

2. dont get a 7700k, go for a r7 1700

Baically the ryzen platform would solve the issue for you, it has basically "automatic overclocking" with the new technology that AMD is pushing. With r7 1700 you will save a bunch of money and get much better bang for your buck with a b350 motherboard.

The money you save by doing this, you could take something else than the 1080ti founders edition card, since you don't even require the blower style for added exhaust capabilities.

Regarding the case, it is a trip back to 2010 in design, if you have the space and like it, go for it. Personally I don't see much of a reason for bigger case than m-atx in gaming pcs.

[Jurrunio]

If you dont overclock a 7700k, then there's no need for a k CPU or Z mobo. There are non-Z boards with RGB.

 

If you pick a 7700 or slower Intel chip, you are paying more and getting less than going for a Ryzen CPU. They are either same or faster in speed, but cheaper, even if you dont overclock. Reference GPUs arent worth it unless you want the looks. It runs hotter and louder than non reference cards.

[QuantumBit]

2 minutes ago, mok said:

why

More cores, more threads, no need to pay an extra fee to "unlock" your cpu and nearly all AM4 motherboards have overclocking support (except A320)

 

Will help if OP ever plans to video edit or the legendary day games scale to 6-8 cores  

[Drake10114]

Just now, jkjoonas said:

Baically the ryzen platform would solve the issue for you, it has basically "automatic overclocking" with the new technology that AMD is pushing. With r7 1700 you will save a bunch of money and get much better bang for your buck with a b350 motherboard.

The money you save by doing this, you could take something else than the 1080ti founders edition card, since you don't even require the blower style for added exhaust capabilities.

Regarding the case, it is a trip back to 2010 in design, if you have the space and like it, go for it. Personally I don't see much of a reason for bigger case than m-atx in gaming pcs.

But Intel is still the better gaming chip, due to everything being optimized for Intel.

[QuantumBit]

1 minute ago, Drake10114 said:

But Intel is still the better gaming chip, due to everything being optimized for Intel.

You expect it to stay like that forever?

[Drake10114]

Just now, QuantumBit said:

You expect it to stay like that forever?

For the near future, yes.

And Op doesn't need more cores currently, and has niether stated or said no to video editing, so no point trying to bring up Ryzen.

[QuantumBit]

Just now, Drake10114 said:

For the near future, yes.

And Op doesn't need more cores currently, and has niether stated or said no to video editing, so no point trying to bring up Ryzen.

Still a bad idea. They're similar in performance for around the same price and its not even fully optimized yet. OP can save by not buying a cooler, and a special Z270 mobo.

[Drake10114]

1 minute ago, QuantumBit said:

Still a bad idea. They're similar in performance for around the same price and its not even fully optimized yet. OP can save by not buying a cooler, and a special Z270 mobo.

If OP isn't interested in OCing, then he would get a cooler with the i7-7700 and can downgrade to a b250 mobo and ditch the liquid aio lol.

And if I can remember, Intel still is better single core performance.

[jkjoonas]

7 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

But Intel is still the better gaming chip, due to everything being optimized for Intel.

The point is saving a buttload of money and getting neglibly "worse" results in the process. Yes some games are better optimized for intel, but does it really matter always? No it doesn't.

 

[Drake10114]

Just now, jkjoonas said:

The point is saving a buttload of money and getting neglibly "worse" results in the process. Yes some games are better optimized for intel, but does it really matter always? No it doesn't.

 

He'll save regardless, since OP stated that he doesn't want to OC, so he would be using i7-7700, b250 mobo and stock coolers. So he saves on not having z270 boards, k processor and an aio. Yes if he was planning to OC, then Ryzen can be an option.

 

[DildorTheDecent]

14 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

2. Don't get a Founder's Edition of cards.. get Reference cards 

FE cards ARE reference cards. 

 

Aftermarket cards are where it's at. Aftermarket cards generally have aftermarket PCBs and coolers. You can get reference(FE) PCBs with custom coolers too. But the whole aftermarket setup is mighty. 

[Drake10114]

Just now, DildorTheDecent said:

FE cards ARE reference cards. 

 

Aftermarket cards are where it's at. Aftermarket cards generally have aftermarket PCBs and coolers. You can get reference(FE) PCBs with custom coolers too. But the whole aftermarket setup is mighty. 

That's what I was meaning by reference cards then lmfao.

Was going to say aftermarket cards, but Ik there is a better term for them.

But yes, exactly what I said. OP should get an aftermarket card, and not a FE.

[Moress]

17 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

But Intel is still the better gaming chip, due to everything being optimized for Intel.

Watch more updated videos on gaming performance of ryzen vs the 7700k. Theyre within a small percentage of each other in raw score and Ryzen continues to hold the lead in 1% and .1% lows

[Drake10114]

Just now, Moress said:

Watch more updated videos on gaming performance of ryzen vs the 7700k. Theyre within a small percentage of each other in raw score and Ryzen continues to hold the lead in 1% and .1% lows

Is the Ryzen OC though since ik that will affect performance?

[Moress]

Just now, Drake10114 said:

Is the Ryzen OC though since ik that will affect performance?

Basically all performance measures OC based performance, so both the AMD and Intel chips were.

[Drake10114]

Just now, Moress said:

Basically all performance measures OC based performance, so both the AMD and Intel chips were.

K, but OP has stated that he won't be overclocking, so how are the 2 chips against each other at stock speeds?

[Kimmaz]

I'd wait for xmas and buy the intel i7-8800k instead ;D

[brob]

OP:

Spoiler

46 minutes ago, zindan said:

Okay, I think I have decided now. 

Was gonna stick with h60 cooler but everyone is complaining about i7 7700k so it makes me nervous. I will NOT overclock. 

 

And some people are telling me the case isnt worrh it, I just love the look of it ans it has good airflow I think. Many fan spots and so on. 

 

Really appriciate honest answers thanks

i know this is like the third time im posting almost the same thread but I cant decide.

 

 

 

 

H60 cooler would be fine if you do not want to overclock. You could also consider the H100i V2 which would allow for overclocking, or an air cooler like the Cryorig H5 which provides cooling similar to the H60.

 

Consider a non-FE GTX 1080 Ti. They tend to have better and quieter cooling.

 

If you love the case, stick with it. It is not a bad case, just a little bulky and an older design.

 

[Daniel644]

50 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

Try and use PCPP if you can, makes it alot easier to skim read.

1. If your not OCing, go w/ a b250 and i7-7700.

2. Don't get a Founder's Edition of cards.. get Reference cards (I think that's the term). They are cheaper, have better cooling and faster.

 What country are you from? Someone could give you alternative builds for whatever budget you have (also what is your budget)

Founders edition IS reference and they are now the cheap model, Nvidia just gave them a new name, as for whether to buy them or not depends on your future plans, if you plan to custom loop cool your GPU you are better off saving money with the cheaper founders card, especially since those are the ones guaranteed to have a waterblock available, if not custom looping then the aftermarket cards are the better choice as they will be MUCH QUIETER at the same temperature (or even lower temps), for example a founders 1080ti can be kept to 72c (instead of the normal 84c) under full load by ramping the fan speed up to like 80%, but its loud as all hell, where something like the Asus Strix will be WAY quieter and probably still slightly lower in the temps.

[Drake10114]

Just now, Daniel644 said:

Founders edition IS reference and they are now the cheap model, Nvidia just gave them a new name, as for whether to buy them or not depends on your future plans, if you plan to custom loop cool your GPU you are better off saving money with the cheaper founders card, especially since those are the ones guaranteed to have a waterblock available, if not custom looping then the aftermarket cards are the better choice as they will be MUCH QUIETER at the same temperature (or even lower temps), for example a founders 1080ti can be kept to 72c (instead of the normal 84c) under full load by ramping the fan speed up to like 80%, but its loud as all hell, where something like the Asus Strix will be WAY quieter and probably still slightly lower in the temps.

As stated previously... I was meaning the cards that weren't FE editions, and since OP doesn't play on OCing I imagine a custom loop isn't in the future,

Love how your the 2nd person to misinterpert my post.

[zindan]

5 hours ago, Kimmaz said:

I'd wait for xmas and buy the intel i7-8800k instead ;D

Is it much better??