Quad Channel Memory Kit vs Dual Channel Memory Kit vs Dual/Quad Channel. Dual Channel RAM is becoming obsolete now?

[LienusLateTips]

19 minutes ago, noobee said:

But Quad Channel is not written anywhere on the Geil EVO X Dual Memory Kit page that I have. Are you sure I can use Quad Channel if I buy another 2x kit of this?

http://www.geil.com.tw/products/show/id/563

YES! I've already told you.

[noobee]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

YES! I've already told you.

Thank you! just to make sure...

 

I think corsair shouldn't put Quad Channel on that page, it made the confusion worse...

[Krillingt75961]

2 hours ago, noobee said:

Thank you! just to make sure...

 

I think corsair shouldn't put Quad Channel on that page, it made the confusion worse...

Likely listed there because that model RAM is sold in both dual and quad channel kits.

[KarathKasun]

If you are not using Intels X79/X99/X299 platform or AMD's X399 platform, you do not have quad channel.

 

X79/X99/X299 and X399 are quad channel platforms and need four memory modules to operate optimally.

Z77/Z97/Z270 and A320/B350/X370 are dual channel platforms and need two memory modules to operate optimally.

 

Four memory slots on Z77/Z97/Z270 and A320/B350/X370 indicates dual channel with two banks per channel.  Four modules can be used on these platforms, but you get no direct performance increase from using more than two sticks in this case and can actually end up having to run the memory at a slower speed because of the increased electrical load.

 

You can use two dual channel kits in either X79/X99/X299 or X399 to get quad channel working properly as long as they are the same type and speed.

[noobee]

6 hours ago, Krillingt75961 said:

Likely listed there because that model RAM is sold in both dual and quad channel kits.

But that page seems to be specifically for the 16GB x2 kit...

[KarathKasun]

4 minutes ago, noobee said:

But that page seems to be specifically for the 16GB x2 kit...

Oops, forgot to quote in order to push the notification.  Check out my post above yours.

 

X399 will likely not have a mATX or ITX board due to the sheer size of the CPU socket.  It hyooge.  X370 is likely as good as it will get for AMD in that space for now.

[noobee]

2 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

Oops, forgot to quote in order to push the notification.  Check out my post above yours.

 

X399 will likely not have a mATX or ITX board due to the sheer size of the CPU socket.  It hyooge.

Thank you for the info! I have already done my research on this.

I think I will go with dual channel for now, and wait for VEGA.

[KarathKasun]

2 minutes ago, noobee said:

Thank you for the info! I have already done my research on this.

I think I will go with dual channel for now, and wait for VEGA.

That seems like a good idea for now.

 

I personally want to see how Vega Nano does.  It could be a killer for small form factor builds.

[LienusLateTips]

5 minutes ago, noobee said:

Thank you for the info! I have already done my research on this.

I think I will go with dual channel for now, and wait for VEGA.

I'm just looking at Vega Nano.

 

[noobee]

2 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

That seems like a good idea for now.

 

I personally want to see how Vega Nano does.  It could be a killer for small form factor builds.

what is that vega NANO?

[KarathKasun]

2 minutes ago, noobee said:

what is that vega NANO?

The card that creepy Tim Sweeny is holding in the pic on this article.

 

http://techreport.com/news/32322/amd-teases-a-pint-sized-radeon-rx-vega-nano

 

Full Vega 64 chip with lower clocks and power usage.  Only needs one 8 pin PCIe power connector.

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, noobee said:

what is that vega NANO?

[noobee]

2 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

The card that creepy Tim Sweeny is holding in the pic on this article.

 

http://techreport.com/news/32322/amd-teases-a-pint-sized-radeon-rx-vega-nano

 

Full Vega 64 chip with lower clocks and power usage.  Only needs one 8 pin PCIe power connector.

New news about new GPU keeps on coming out, but the actual product itself is not available yet... when is the good timing to buy a GPU?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, noobee said:

New news about new GPU keeps on coming out, but the actual product itself is not available yet... when is the good timing to buy a GPU?

Just when Vega comes out.

[MageTank]

10 hours ago, noobee said:

Hello,

 

I just bought a 16GB x2 = 32GB RAM, Geil EVO X 3000MHz built for Ryzen http://www.geil.com.tw/products/show/id/563

I haven't bought the GPU, Motherboard, and CPU for my new build. 

While I am deciding to wait for VEGA 56 instead of buying GTX 1060/1070, I started to think that maybe I should wait and get a Threadripper. (Thought of buying B350 and Ryzen 1700)

And I started to browser for the Threadripper specs and it says that it needs a Quad Channel RAM. So I started to feel panic because I just bought a DUAL CHANNEL MEMORY!!

I started to feel regret why did I buy a technology that has or becoming obsolete for my NEW build?

 

I also started to look for Quad Channel memory, and I found that Corsair Vengeance with the same 16GB x2 spec, and roughly the same price.

What makes my feeling worse is that the Corsair Vengeance says Dual/Quad Channel, why didn't I just get this instead of Geil EVO X?

 

So my question is that, is it worth it to buy 32GB Dual Channel now, seeing that Threadripper will come out soon and make Dual Channel like tomorrow's tech?

Should I wait for VEGA and Threadripper in the first place and use quad channel memory?

 

Thank you!

The ram itself has nothing to do with "memory channels", it's how many DIMM's you occupy on the board. The reason kits are sold as "dual channel" or "quad channel" kits, is because they were validated in a lab prior to their sale, to be compatible with one another to achieve identical clocks/timings for their XMP ratings. These kits typically come from the same manufacturing batch, and likely hit similar limitations when overclocking, which is why it's important to buy a kit in the first place.

 

You can still buy two dual channel kits to occupy a quad channel board, or a quad channel kit to occupy all 4 slots of a dual channel board. All kits have JEDEC SPD profiles on them, so it's highly unlikely you will run into incompatibility issues, so long as you still buy identical SKU's and have them all running at identical frequencies/timings in each channel. 

[KarathKasun]

Wait for Vega launch.  The GPU sector should settle down after that.

 

I honestly do not believe that Nvidia Volta is going to be much more than a Pascal (GTX 1060/1070/1080/1080ti) refresh

[noobee]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Just when Vega comes out.

Do you think it will be available in Japan on the 14th August?

[noobee]

1 minute ago, KarathKasun said:

Wait for Vega launch.  The GPU sector should settle down after that.

 

I honestly do not believe that Nvidia Volta is going to be much more than a Pascal (GTX 1060/1070/1080/1080ti) refresh

NVIDIA is not good..

 

watch this:

 

 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, noobee said:

Do you think it will be available in Japan on the 14th August?

No it's launching in September

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, noobee said:

NVIDIA is not good..

 

watch this:

 

 

Depends, they are still the industry leader when it comes to compute and performance

[KarathKasun]

Just now, noobee said:

NVIDIA is not good..

 

watch this: *snip*

 

 

I've seen it.

 

I usually know about 99% of tech news when it happens.

[MageTank]

Just now, noobee said:

NVIDIA is not good..

 

watch this

 

 

What does Nvidia's stance on Linux (and open source in general) have to do with them not being good? If people have absolutely no intention to use Nvidia on Linux based systems, they wouldn't be impacted in any way. 

[noobee]

Just now, JDE said:

No it's launching in September

Really??? So I need to wait for about a month to get my new PC running? I already got my RAM...

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, noobee said:

Really??? So I need to wait for about a month to get my new PC running? I already got my RAM...

Yeah you either go NVIDIA (would still recommend) or wait for VEGA

[KarathKasun]

Yep, unless you want to get a cheap GPU to hold you over and to have a backup in case you need it later.

 

Cant really recommend buying anything above RX 560 or GTX 1050 Ti right now anyway.  GPU prices are way too high compared to their actual value.  Stupid miners eating up all the GPUs.