Build suggestions for First PC

[startrekkie1701]

So I decided that I think I'm gonna build my first rig and all, and have set up a parts list for it, which I'll link here. For this system, I plan on gaming as well as Twitch streaming, and also plan on down the road running an 24-hour Internet radio station off of this rig as well. Any thoughts, suggestions, and recommendations on it are appreciated!

This is the link to the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X8GDgL

[LHJKO]

since your gonna be streaming why not drop the cooler and get a 1700

[startrekkie1701]

Just now, Vernw3 said:

since your gonna be streaming why not drop the cooler and get a 1700

Funny you should mention that-I was just thinking that might be the best bet. Stock cooler fine for that then?

[seon123]

8 minutes ago, startrekkie1701 said:

So I decided that I think I'm gonna build my first rig and all, and have set up a parts list for it, which I'll link here. For this system, I plan on gaming as well as Twitch streaming, and also plan on down the road running an 24-hour Internet radio station off of this rig as well. Any thoughts, suggestions, and recommendations on it are appreciated!

This is the link to the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X8GDgL

Since you're streaming, maybe try to squeeze in a 1700?

The CPU cooler comes with TIM, you don't need to buy it separately. 

Ryzen really likes faster memory, so maybe try to get a faster kit, 3000 or 3200 MHz.

The WD Blue HDD is 5400 RPM, maybe get a 7200 RPM drive. 

Why an additional hybrid drive?

You don't need the Strix 1080 to get the best performance. There are some really nice 1080s that cost less.

PSU might be a bit overkill, 650W should be fine.

The mouse (I think) uses the PTE sensor, which is really bad. 

 

Overall, looks good

Edited July 25, 2017 by seon123
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[LHJKO]

Just now, startrekkie1701 said:

Funny you should mention that-I was just thinking that might be the best bet. Stock cooler fine for that then?

ya the stock cooler is actually decent and you get rgb thats worth it alone 

[unknownmiscreant]

I have a 3200MHz CL14 memory kit, for my ryzen 1700X system. It doesn't make a huge difference having it clocked really high. 2666 is value for money with memory. If I could have purchased a 2666MHz I would have done, but my only options were 3200MHz or JDEC. Although the 3200MHz CL16 could be a good bet.

[LHJKO]

you can also buy windows from kinguin save some money get a cheaper motherboard and then get a 1080 ti 

[Droidbot]

get rid of all the garbage razer peripherals

 

the ornata is not mechanical, instead membrane with clickers strapped to the keys.

the mouse uses the phillips twin eye sensor, which is a good sensor but it's badly implemented by Razer. 

the headphones just suck, they're meant for on the go use and sold badly because nobody wanted to wear their brand in public

and the firefly is a really bad cloth pad. just get a qck+

 

get a strafe rgb with reds, blues or brown switches, a g502 or g403, and a pair of hyper x cloud or cloud iis

[startrekkie1701]

5 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Since you're streaming, maybe try to squeeze in a 1700?

The CPU cooler comes with TIM, you don't need to buy it separately. 

Ryzen really likes faster memory, so maybe try to get a faster kit, 3000 or 3200 MHz.

The WD Blue HDD is 5400 RPM, maybe get a 7200 RPM drive. 

Why an additional hybrid drive?

You don't need the Strix 1080 to get the best performance. There are some really nice 1080s that cost less.

PSU might be a bit overkill, 650W should be fine.

The mouse (I think) uses the PTE sensor, which is really bad. 

 

Overall, looks good

Already dropped the cooler and added 1700 again. Also got DDR-3000 now as well.

Thought about a Black, would that be better?

The hybrid's for games; I would rather have faster loading times but don't really want to spend the price on another SSD unless I have to.

I went for the Strix for ASUS Aura, but I thought about getting this card too: http://www.microcenter.com/product/466000/GeForce_GTX_1080_FTW_8GB_GDDR5X_Gaming_ACX_30_PCIe_Graphics_Card. Would the EVGA be a better fit or is there better yet?

Was wondering about the PSU.

Can you confirm the mouse issue for me? I have an MX Master I use on my laptop I can pull to my desktop should I need to.

[Shura]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQtb9W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQtb9W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($90.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Hybrid Gaming Video Card  ($559.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.41 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($32.00)
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($189.49 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Razer - Ornata Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer - Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer - Adaro  Headphones  ($40.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Phanteks RGB LED 4 Pin Adapter, Specified for Phanteks Cases with RGB  ($5.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Razer Firefly - Cloth Gaming Mouse Mat with Chroma Custom Lighting - Mouse Pad Preferred by Pro Gamers  ($40.98 @ Amazon)
Other: Cable Matters Gold Plated DVI-D Dual Link Cable with Ferrites 6 Feet  ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Other: Marantz Professional Pod Pack 1 | Broadcast Boom Arm with Included USB Condenser Microphone  ($49.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Neewer® Black Archy Recording Studio Microphone Mask Shield Mic Windscreen Pop Filter with Elastic Rubber Bands  ($7.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $2238.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[startrekkie1701]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

get rid of all the garbage razer peripherals

 

the ornata is not mechanical, instead membrane with clickers strapped to the keys.

the mouse uses the phillips twin eye sensor, which is a good sensor but it's badly implemented by Razer. 

the headphones just suck, they're meant for on the go use and sold badly because nobody wanted to wear their brand in public

 

get a strafe rgb with reds, blues or brown switches, a g502 or g403, and a pair of hyper x cloud or cloud iis

Would the Silents be good too? I've not found much on those

[Droidbot]

Just now, startrekkie1701 said:

Would the Silents be good too? I've not found much on those

the silents are quite good, they're essentially silent reds. 

[startrekkie1701]

1 minute ago, Shura said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQtb9W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQtb9W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($90.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Hybrid Gaming Video Card  ($559.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.41 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($32.00)
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($189.49 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Razer - Ornata Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer - Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer - Adaro  Headphones  ($40.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Phanteks RGB LED 4 Pin Adapter, Specified for Phanteks Cases with RGB  ($5.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Razer Firefly - Cloth Gaming Mouse Mat with Chroma Custom Lighting - Mouse Pad Preferred by Pro Gamers  ($40.98 @ Amazon)
Other: Cable Matters Gold Plated DVI-D Dual Link Cable with Ferrites 6 Feet  ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Other: Marantz Professional Pod Pack 1 | Broadcast Boom Arm with Included USB Condenser Microphone  ($49.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Neewer® Black Archy Recording Studio Microphone Mask Shield Mic Windscreen Pop Filter with Elastic Rubber Bands  ($7.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $2238.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-25 00:27 EDT-0400

Found Corsair's RGB RAM at a higher frequency I swapped to already, and wifi is something I am looking at as my room I'm putting this into would prove difficult to string an Ethernet cable to, but I can get a card for that.

[unknownmiscreant]

Be careful with the MX master, I have worn out the switches in mice with the same buttons, without gaming use. For games, the g502/g402 will be much better. Also be careful with the EVGA FTW graphics cards, as they have no cooling for VRMs or VRAM.

 

Also dump the DVI cable. Go with  display port, should give you better compatibility with the high refresh rate monitor.

[startrekkie1701]

1 minute ago, unknownmiscreant said:

Be careful with the MX master, I have worn out the switches in mice with the same buttons, without gaming use. For games, the g502/g402 will be much better. Also be careful with the EVGA FTW graphics cards, as they have no cooling for VRMs or VRAM.

 

Also dump the DVI cable. Go with  display port, should give you better compatibility with the high refresh rate monitor.

One problem: that display lacks a DisplayPort connector. That said, I'm willing to get a better display if you've got one to recommend.

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, unknownmiscreant said:

Also be careful with the EVGA FTW graphics cards, as they have no cooling for VRMs or VRAM.

They didn't, but most new units would be fixed. EVGA offered recalls and replacement units for affected products. 

 

I ordered a 1070SC in Dec last year and it was fixed out of the box with the new VRM and VRAM cooling plate. 

[startrekkie1701]

9 minutes ago, Shura said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQtb9W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQtb9W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($90.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Hybrid Gaming Video Card  ($559.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.41 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($32.00)
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($189.49 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Razer - Ornata Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer - Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer - Adaro  Headphones  ($40.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Phanteks RGB LED 4 Pin Adapter, Specified for Phanteks Cases with RGB  ($5.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Razer Firefly - Cloth Gaming Mouse Mat with Chroma Custom Lighting - Mouse Pad Preferred by Pro Gamers  ($40.98 @ Amazon)
Other: Cable Matters Gold Plated DVI-D Dual Link Cable with Ferrites 6 Feet  ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Other: Marantz Professional Pod Pack 1 | Broadcast Boom Arm with Included USB Condenser Microphone  ($49.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Neewer® Black Archy Recording Studio Microphone Mask Shield Mic Windscreen Pop Filter with Elastic Rubber Bands  ($7.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $2238.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-25 00:27 EDT-0400

I just noticed that card is a watercooled one-while I'm open to using that, how would one do so? Is that an all-in-one cooler there, or will I need a pump and resovoir? I'm familiar with AIOs for CPUs, not so much GPUs.

[unknownmiscreant]

1 minute ago, startrekkie1701 said:

One problem: that display lacks a DisplayPort connector. That said, I'm willing to get a better display if you've got one to recommend.

Oh. Okay. I was just telling you, as DVI is quite an old interface. Also a 2m/6ft display cable is an absolute minimum for ease of wiring up at a desk. Mine is only just long enough.

 

2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

They didn't, but most new units would be fixed. EVGA offered recalls and replacement units for affected products. 

 

I ordered a 1070SC in Dec last year and it was fixed out of the box with the new VRM and VRAM cooling plate. 

Oh. Okay, I stand corrected. Thats good, as I quite like the cards, but didn't realize they had fixed the cooling issue.

[startrekkie1701]

Just now, unknownmiscreant said:

Oh. Okay. I was just telling you, as DVI is quite an old interface. Also a 2m/6ft display cable is an absolute minimum for ease of wiring up at a desk. Mine is only just long enough.

 

Oh. Okay, I stand corrected. Thats good, as I quite like the cards, but didn't realize they had fixed the cooling issue.

Well, I was looking at the Acer Predator and Dell Gaming 24" displays, both with G-Sync, and both have it. I was leaning towards that Acer one too, as it's overclockable. Those good ones to go for?

[Shura]

Changed the motherboard, should bring the price down a bit more but offer the same features and same great look. Yes It's an AIO Hybrid, the AIO will cool the GPU chip and the fans will cool the vrm & vram. just connect it to the case and that's all; you dont need pumps or reservoirs.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MRQYFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MRQYFd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($155.00 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($90.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Hybrid Gaming Video Card  ($559.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.41 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($32.00)
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($189.49 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Razer - Ornata Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer - Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer - Adaro  Headphones  ($40.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Phanteks RGB LED 4 Pin Adapter, Specified for Phanteks Cases with RGB  ($5.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Razer Firefly - Cloth Gaming Mouse Mat with Chroma Custom Lighting - Mouse Pad Preferred by Pro Gamers  ($40.98 @ Amazon)
Other: Cable Matters Gold Plated DVI-D Dual Link Cable with Ferrites 6 Feet  ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Other: Marantz Professional Pod Pack 1 | Broadcast Boom Arm with Included USB Condenser Microphone  ($49.00 @ Amazon)
Other: Neewer® Black Archy Recording Studio Microphone Mask Shield Mic Windscreen Pop Filter with Elastic Rubber Bands  ($7.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $2203.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Daniel Z.]

5 minutes ago, startrekkie1701 said:

I just noticed that card is a watercooled one-while I'm open to using that, how would one do so? Is that an all-in-one cooler there, or will I need a pump and resovoir? I'm familiar with AIOs for CPUs, not so much GPUs.

YOU USED FRICKING RAZER

[unknownmiscreant]

2 minutes ago, startrekkie1701 said:

Well, I was looking at the Acer Predator and Dell Gaming 24" displays, both with G-Sync, and both have it. I was leaning towards that Acer one too, as it's overclockable. Those good ones to go for?

I have very little idea about what good monitors are. As for overclocking monitors, I tried overclocking mine, and it was more trouble than it was worth. I only got 2 extra Hz, and somewhat worse picture quality. Having said that though, mine are just office screens. Definitely go with G-sync, and look at color accuracy etc.

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, startrekkie1701 said:

Already dropped the cooler and added 1700 again. Also got DDR-3000 now as well.

Thought about a Black, would that be better?

The hybrid's for games; I would rather have faster loading times but don't really want to spend the price on another SSD unless I have to.

I went for the Strix for ASUS Aura, but I thought about getting this card too: http://www.microcenter.com/product/466000/GeForce_GTX_1080_FTW_8GB_GDDR5X_Gaming_ACX_30_PCIe_Graphics_Card. Would the EVGA be a better fit or is there better yet?

Was wondering about the PSU.

Can you confirm the mouse issue for me? I have an MX Master I use on my laptop I can pull to my desktop should I need to.

For the mass storage HDD, just get any 7200 RPM drive. Not much difference between them. 

The hybrid drive decides which files are stored in the SSD cache, based on how frequently you access the files. So if you put all your games on it, it won't make a difference for most of them. 

The Strix is probably one of the best 1080s, however, since I'm assuming you're not going to do LN2 overclocking on it, saving the $50 would probably be better. Unless you want Aura on the card. 

If you want a review of the mouse, Rocket Jump Ninja has a review of it on YouTube. As long as you're not playing competitively, it shouldn't really matter too much, though

[Droidbot]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.78 @ OutletPC) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($11.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - X300 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - X300 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Hybrid Gaming Video Card  ($559.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($32.00) 
Monitor: Acer - GN276HL bid 27.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($254.80 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.99 @ Best Buy) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($62.89 @ OutletPC) 
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($96.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks RGB LED 4 Pin Adapter, Specified for Phanteks Cases with RGB  ($5.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: Cable Matters Gold Plated DVI-D Dual Link Cable with Ferrites 6 Feet  ($16.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Marantz Professional Pod Pack 1 | Broadcast Boom Arm with Included USB Condenser Microphone  ($49.00 @ Amazon) 
Other: Neewer® Black Archy Recording Studio Microphone Mask Shield Mic Windscreen Pop Filter with Elastic Rubber Bands  ($7.50 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2488.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Bumped up the HDD storage to 8TB of quick 7200RPM, display to 27", and cooling to an AIO so you can push that 1700 to the limit for 'muh framerates'

[startrekkie1701]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

YOU USED FRICKING RAZER

Cuz of cost, but that's why I'm here. To get advice on what I did wrong. Keeping that pad though