Consistent Minimum CPU requirement

[SammyGoad]

So, for ALOT of the games on the Steam store that I would consider(i have low standards) high graphics or CPU intensive such as Doom, Skyrim Special Edition, Witcher 3 require or recommend Sandy Bridge processors which is what I have, great, for now. But as the years go on I notice that games have gone from i3 2300s as min to i5 2400 and some even asking for my I5 2500 and I'm starting to get worried. my mobo isnt compatible with Ivy Bridge and I dont want to shell out for all the new parts the newer gens require, ddr4, new mobo or even a new cooler if I go AM4. Do you guys think that I should move up to a i7 2600 for $100 or wait alittle for ryzen 3 as the cheapest new processor available(id really hate to drop down to a Pentium on the intel side, but that would be the only thing in my budget    

[Alexcalibur]

All I can say is save your pennies. But if you had to just wait for Ryzen 3. 

[Max_Settings]

No don't invest any more money in that very old platform. Save up for new stuff.

[He_162]

If you invest in an old platform you will see yourself a couple months wondering why you spent that money instead of saving, just save as much as you can for as long as you can until you can get an i7, or Ryzen 5 processor, and when you have that cash ready, make sure you spend it wisely, get whatever is within your budget but don't get something if you don't actually need it, I.e, an 8 core Ryzen 7 if you don't need 8 cores.

I got the R5 1600 for light video editing, and gaming while streaming, etc.

[SammyGoad]

if I get a low end cpu on a newer mobo, like a $50 G4560 on kaby lake, I feel like it would be a step forward because I have more upgrades paths

[Megah3rtz]

Awh man. R3 is only 1-2 weeks away, just wait a few. Youll probably beat the 2600/2700 on an overclocked R3 anyway.

[SammyGoad]

10 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

No don't invest any more money in that very old platform. Save up for new stuff.

i only spent about $40 on parts specifically for the LGA1155 platform, $20 mobo and $20 to get above 8gbs ddr3, the cpu was a hand-me-down

[SammyGoad]

2 minutes ago, Megah3rtz said:

Awh man. R3 is only 1-2 weeks away, just wait a few. Youll probably beat the 2600/2700 on an overclocked R3 anyway.

OH SHIT, my bday is August 10th, will it be out by then, its just ALOT at once, cpu mobo and ram all need to be replaced at once ;(

[Megah3rtz]

5 minutes ago, SammyGoad said:

OH SHIT, my bday is August 10th, will it be out by then, its just ALOT at once, cpu mobo and ram all need to be replaced at once ;(

The official date is july 27th but dont expect them to be in stock until a week or so after that. People could snatch them up or stores just might not have stock

[Damascus]

9 minutes ago, Megah3rtz said:

Awh man. R3 is only 1-2 weeks away, just wait a few. Youll probably beat the 2600/2700 on an overclocked R3 anyway.

Actually, it comes out in 4 days (July 27)

[Megah3rtz]

Just now, Damascus said:

Actually, it comes out in 4 days (July 27)

I know, supply might not be instore though.

[SammyGoad]

Just now, Megah3rtz said:

I know, supply might not be instore though.

I mean,I have a micro center an hour away, I could camp out

[Damascus]

Just now, SammyGoad said:

I mean,I have a micro center an hour away, I could camp out

Go to microcenter and get a 1400 + mobo combo $210 gets you a 1400 and b350 and that's a really, really good deal.

 

 If you can swing the extra couple bucks you'll actually get a significant boost in cpu longevity, cores are starting to be more and more important meaning that a 4c 4t r3 will last only a bit longer then your i5.  

[SammyGoad]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

Go to microcenter and get a 1400 + mobo combo $210 gets you a 1400 and b350 and that's a really, really good deal.

 

 If you can swing the extra couple bucks you'll actually get a significant boost in cpu longevity, cores are starting to be more and more important meaning that a 4c 4t r3 will last only a bit longer then your i5.  

My case is matx and the bundle only has atx, honestly, its just too much at once with ram, cpu and mobo and I dont think I'll see too much gain out of the box. I like making my purchases and upgrades slowly, even if it means I have to seat on parts for a while

[SammyGoad]

1 minute ago, Abyssal Radon said:

To be frank a Ryzen 5 1400 would be a real upgrade for you. Get a 1400 with a decent B350 board and you would be set. 

You don't think that ryzen 3 would be a sizable upgrade to i5 2500, they seem to have the same core/thread count and speed. I understand ipc and faster memory play a role, but I havent found a useful metric except for like "Ivy bridge 3570 is 10% more performace than 2500" and once you go beyond a couple gens its hard to even compare them

[SammyGoad]

1 minute ago, Abyssal Radon said:

So many newer games are chewing through quad core CPU's like its nothing. A 4C 8T part would really benefit you. A 4C 4T with slightly better IPC performance really wouldn't help with games that eat up cores.

Im just a thrift fiend, I feel like if I can just get a i7 2600k (4c/8t) for $100 that will last me a few years, I can focus more on graphics cards which play a bigger role in most games.

[Megah3rtz]

8 minutes ago, SammyGoad said:

You don't think that ryzen 3 would be a sizable upgrade to i5 2500, they seem to have the same core/thread count and speed. I understand ipc and faster memory play a role, but I havent found a useful metric except for like "Ivy bridge 3570 is 10% more performace than 2500" and once you go beyond a couple gens its hard to even compare them

For perspective R5 1400 beats an i7 3770k, and is pretty damn close to an i7 4770k. (Stock)

[SammyGoad]

1 minute ago, Megah3rtz said:

For perspective R5 1400 beats an i7 3770k, and is pretty damn close to an i7 4770k. 

so, if we say that Intel gets 10% better each gen, and the $150 1400 is around one or two gens better than a $100 2nd gen i7, that's about 20% better than that older i7(working with the roughest metric ever)

[Damascus]

5 hours ago, SammyGoad said:

Im just a thrift fiend, I feel like if I can just get a i7 2600k (4c/8t) for $100 that will last me a few years, I can focus more on graphics cards which play a bigger role in most games.

This is a decent idea but I'm not enthralled.  BTW microcenter juat gives $50 off no matter what mobo+cpu you get so you can choose whatever b350 matx fits your budget.

 

Wait and get a 1400 or preferably a 1600, you'll thank yourself in 5 years when 4 cores are as useful as a dual core is now.

 

An r3 is NOT a worthwhile long term upgrade for you.  If you get a 1600 it will last you half decade, then you can get a Volta gpu next year for like 250 bucks that will perform on par with a 1080.

 

Don't waste your money on a 4c/4t dude.

[Damascus]

6 hours ago, SammyGoad said:

new cooler

Also the stock cooler on the 1600 is awesome, can do 3.7ghz easily.

[Emberstone]

16 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Also the stock cooler on the 1600 is awesome, can do 3.7ghz easily.

Silicon lottery willing, he could even get 3.8 or 3.9, but it's unlikely without aftermarket cooling.

 

OP, keep saving and grab an R5-1600 and a B350 motherboard, then overclock the snot out of that thing. You'll be getting I7-6800-6850K performance. Needless to say, you'll be set for the next several years. And when you feel like the 1600 isn't doing enough for you down the road, AMD will be using the AM4 platform until ~2020. You can upgrade to second or third gen Ryzen and be set for the next few years after that (in theory).

[MyName13]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

This is a decent idea but I'm not enthralled.  BTW microcenter juat gives $50 off no matter what mobo+cpu you get so you can choose whatever b350 matx fits your budget.

 

Wait and get a 1400 or preferably a 1600, you'll thank yourself in 5 years when 4 cores are as useful as a dual core is now.

 

An r3 is NOT a worthwhile long term upgrade for you.  If you get a 1600 it will last you half decade, then you can get a Volta gpu next year for like 250 bucks that will perform on par with a 1080.

 

Don't waste your money on a 4c/4t dude.

1600 will be as useful as bulldozder in 5 years.But yes, there's no point of switching from i5 to r3 and even quad core r5s, I'd rather wait for 2018 (coffee lake and Zen+) or even 2019.

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, MyName13 said:

coffee lake

Coffee Lake will likely have a 3.2ghz base on the 8700 and 3.6ghz base on the 8700k.  They probably won't OC too much higher than ryzen and thus won't last a hell of a lot longer.

5 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

fx 83

Less of a toaster lol but sort of, I see more of a 2nd/3rd gen i7 story instead.

 

Now clearly the 1600 won't be the best cpu around in 5 years but I forsee a very similar story to what happened to the 2600k, a strong performer with enough cores to remain relevant long into the future.  

[MyName13]

10 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Coffee Lake will likely have a 3.2ghz base on the 8700 and 3.6ghz base on the 8700k.  They probably won't OC too much higher than ryzen and thus won't last a hell of a lot longer.

Less of a toaster lol but sort of, I see more of a 2nd/3rd gen i7 story instead.

 

Now clearly the 1600 won't be the best cpu around in 5 years but I forsee a very similar story to what happened to the 2600k, a strong performer with enough cores to remain relevant long into the future.  

Coffee lake i5 might be 6c6t so it might be a better choice than r5 1400.What happened to locked Sandy Bridge i5 and i7 CPUs?Nobody mentions i5 2400 AMD i7 2600, are they as relevant as the unlocked ones?Besides, owners of 1600 will probably want ddr5 and pcie 4/5, not to mention a shortage of ddr4 because of transition to ddr5.

[plsno]

Just save your money and get a 6c/12t or 8c/16t processor whenever you can afford it. Spending money on minimal processor upgrade seems kind of pointless. It's also worth noting that the recommended hardware specifications from developers are all over the place. Some of them are spot on others are way off in both directions. I would never use those to judge whether or not you need to upgrade.