Ryzen 5 overclocking help

[kaiju_wars]

So I'm overclocking my Ryzen 5 1500X.  My BIOS is up to date also.

 

I can get to 3.7GHz before needing to increase voltages.  

I then went to 3.8GHz and I had to go from 1.23750 on the CPU voltage (what ASRock had it set to by default), to 1.31250 to get the 3.8GHz overclock stable.

My goal is 3.9 GHz at least.

 

The cooler I'm using is the stock Wraith Spire.  Now before anyone says anything about temps, according to AMD, 95C is the max temps for the 1500X.  According to Ryzen Master, I was at 74C and according to Speedfan, I was at 68C.  

 

Okay, so these temps are well under the 95C limit.  So let's assume to get to 3.9GHz, I'll have to increase voltages more.  How much more will I want to increase the voltages on this CPU?  

[it_dont_work]

What have you set loadline calibration to atm?

[kaiju_wars]

Just now, it_dont_work said:

What have you set loadline calibration to atm?

To be honest, I'm kinda a noob to overclocking.  I just increase speed and increase voltages.

[it_dont_work]

Just now, kaiju_wars said:

To be honest, I'm kinda a noob to overclocking.  I just increase speed and increase voltages.

I usually start with baseclock, then multiplier, then voltage, but I havent stuffed with ryzen at all yet.

 

Loadline calibration combats vdroop, so under load it'll up the vcore a little to maintain the set voltage. Try 3.9 and 1.35v, and medium setting on loadline, then run a stability test again. 

[kaiju_wars]

Just now, it_dont_work said:

I usually start with baseclock, then multiplier, then voltage, but I havent stuffed with ryzen at all yet.

 

Loadline calibration combats vdroop, so under load it'll up the vcore a little to maintain the set voltage. Try 3.9 and 1.35v, and medium setting on loadline, then run a stability test again. 

Alright, will do.  Thanks.  I'll let you know what happens.

[kaiju_wars]

6 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

I usually start with baseclock, then multiplier, then voltage, but I havent stuffed with ryzen at all yet.

 

Loadline calibration combats vdroop, so under load it'll up the vcore a little to maintain the set voltage. Try 3.9 and 1.35v, and medium setting on loadline, then run a stability test again. 

Don't even know where to find loadline calibration in the BIOS, but I do have it set to 3.9 at 1.35V... should I still test it and see what happens?

[it_dont_work]

Just now, kaiju_wars said:

Don't even know where to find loadline calibration in the BIOS, but I do have it set to 3.9 at 1.35V... should I still test it and see what happens?

Yea just watch the temps closely on the stock cooler, you might be at a point where your silicon limited, or need an exponential amount of voltage to get higher stable clocks.

 

extra 100mhz might not be worth the extra voltage/heat needed, up the ram speed at that point.

[kaiju_wars]

1 minute ago, it_dont_work said:

Yea just watch the temps closely on the stock cooler, you might be at a point where your silicon limited, or need an exponential amount of voltage to get higher stable clocks.

 

extra 100mhz might not be worth the extra voltage/heat needed, up the ram speed at that point.

Alright.  I'll test it and see what happens.  

[kaiju_wars]

4 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

Yea just watch the temps closely on the stock cooler, you might be at a point where your silicon limited, or need an exponential amount of voltage to get higher stable clocks.

 

extra 100mhz might not be worth the extra voltage/heat needed, up the ram speed at that point.

It crashed within 5 seconds of starting Prime95... so I just rolled back to 3.8 GHz.  

 

How do I go about overclocking RAM?  Do I just increase speeds in the BIOS, test it, and stop once it crashes?

[it_dont_work]

1 minute ago, kaiju_wars said:

It crashed within 5 seconds of starting Prime95... so I just rolled back to 3.8 GHz.  

 

How do I go about overclocking RAM?  Do I just increase speeds in the BIOS, test it, and stop once it crashes?

What is your rams rated speed and timings? and are you already running at them?

[kaiju_wars]

Just now, it_dont_work said:

What is your rams rated speed and timings? and are you already running at them?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BIWLFGQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

2133MHz is the speed it's supposed to be, don't know the timings.

But here on Task Manager, it says it's running at 2134MHz.

But here's a screenshot of that, along with CPU-Z.

[it_dont_work]

Try the 2400 auto setting in the bios if you've got one first and run super pi

[kaiju_wars]

Just now, it_dont_work said:

Try the 2400 auto setting in the bios if you've got one first and run super pi

Will do

 

[kaiju_wars]

1 minute ago, it_dont_work said:

Try the 2400 auto setting in the bios if you've got one first and run super pi

Where do I get Super Pi?

[it_dont_work]

1 minute ago, kaiju_wars said:

Will do

 

Then something 2400 15-15-15-35

 

[it_dont_work]

http://www.superpi.net/

[kaiju_wars]

Just now, it_dont_work said:

http://www.superpi.net/

Nothing to download

[it_dont_work]

Just now, kaiju_wars said:

Nothing to download

Well thats just wierd. Squedual

 

 

Well them, run windows memtest, cmd, mdsched.exe  restart

[kaiju_wars]

19 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

Well thats just wierd. Squedual

 

 

Well them, run windows memtest, cmd, mdsched.exe  restart

Running now, almost done with the 2nd part of the test, I'll give you the results when it's done.

[kaiju_wars]

22 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

Well thats just wierd. Squedual

 

 

Well them, run windows memtest, cmd, mdsched.exe  restart

It ran and everything seemed to go well.  I didn't see any errors pop up while the test was running.  Should I still adjust the timings and run it again?

 

[kaiju_wars]

Well, I overclocked the memory, but whenever I'd run a stress test that would hit that, such as Prime95, the system would crash.

But once I set it back to to 2133MHz, and I left my CPU at 3.8, it stress tests just fine.  I ran Prime95 for 10 minutes first, see if it'd not crash, it didn't.  Now it's been going on 10 minutes.  I'll run it for like an hour and see what happens.

[it_dont_work]

2 hours ago, kaiju_wars said:

It ran and everything seemed to go well.  I didn't see any errors pop up while the test was running.  Should I still adjust the timings and run it again?

 

Can try loosening timings and trying again, but that's just counter productive, you've got basic ram it might just not wont to oc. 

[kaiju_wars]

2 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

Can try loosening timings and trying again, but that's just counter productive, you've got basic ram it might just not wont to oc. 

Welp, if I overclock the RAM with the CPU overclocked, it crashes. I dialed back the RAM and tried again.  Stress testing the CPU was going fine for about 20 minutes.   I have to run it at 3.7GHz now.