Am I Bottlenecking?

[Bananasplit_00]

this thread is just an agree rep farm at this point... i think iv gotten close to 15 of them now

[scottyseng]

1 minute ago, BonkersTA said:

Keep in mind if I am to do this I would have to replace both my motherboard and RAM as well though.

I'm sure you get the point by now, but just get the 4790K. If you like used, I've seen quite a few sell for cheap.

 

I don't hate ryzen, but from a price to performance standpoint, having to pretty much buy a whole platform doesn't justify the cost at all...

 

Then sell the 4690K and use it towards the 1070 you're going to buy.

[PCGuy_5960]

6 minutes ago, tiggar47 said:

If you plan to get an "Upgrade" go for Higher end hardware for some couple extra bucks, it's more worth it.

Spoiler

As you can see the 4790K outperforms Ryzen in every single game....

[Masada02]

@OP 

 

Just buy the 144hz monitor. You are going to see a huge difference in gameplay just by being able to see all the frames you've been missing out on with a 60hz monitor. Is your 4690K going to hold you back from getting the absolute max frames the 1070 can output? Sure, but it is by no means a true bottleneck.

 

Once you get your new monitor, if you find that the games you want to play are being severely limited by your CPU then you should consider upgrading. Until then, use what you have.

 

 

No one here knows what a bottleneck is, guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

[BonkersTA]

Just now, Masada02 said:

No one here knows what a bottleneck is, guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

It's when a certain spec in your build is more powerful than the rest of it and as a result cannot reach its full potential because the other specs are holding it back?

[PCGuy_5960]

4 minutes ago, Masada02 said:

No one here knows what a bottleneck is, guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

The 4690K is bottlenecking the 1070, but not to the point where upgrading to a 1080 wouldn't yield an increase in FPS

[Bananasplit_00]

5 minutes ago, Masada02 said:

No one here knows what a bottleneck is, guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

it IS bottlenecking though, just as mentioned its not massive nor will he not see an increase in preormance from stepping up the GPU but it is still limiting what the 1070 can maximaly do. the I7 4790K upgrade would do a lot more for framerates then just eliviate the bottleneck

[Masada02]

Just now, BonkersTA said:

It's when a certain spec in your build is more powerful than the rest of it and as a result cannot reach its full potential because the other specs are holding it back?

No, a true bottleneck is when a single component limits the performance of everything else in a system; when it becomes the driving factor. Basically imagine something like an old Pentium 4 with your 1070. That is a true bottleneck. You wont ever see the performance from the 1070 and will only see the Pentium 4s performance.

 

What you are describing is a case where you are "CPU limited". It's like a bottleneck, but not nearly as severe.

 

In any real world scenario you will never see a true bottleneck, nor will you see a perfect distribution of load. You will always be limited in some capacity, be it the CPU, GPU, or even other components. What people generally liken to a "bottleneck" is when the GPU is not the limiting factor. But realistically, your limiting component is going to always depend on the specific game or program you are running.

 

Another way to think of it is by saying your 1070 is limiting your 4690K because in some games your CPU can push more frames than the GPU. Does that mean you should upgrade your GPU? Well, it depends again on whether you are getting the FPS you desire for the games you play for the monitor you play on. 

 

What it all boils down to: it's complicated and there isn't a single answer. Only when you have a true bottleneck is there a single answer.

[Masada02]

I thought of another example.

 

Imagine the most OP system ever that can run any game at any settings at very high fps. Then run all of that through a 1080p 60hz monitor. In this case, the monitor is a true bottleneck.

[JabroniBaloney]

Yup. This forum is cancer.

[ARikozuM]

4 hours ago, BonkersTA said:

It's when a certain spec in your build is more powerful than the rest of it and as a result cannot reach its full potential because the other specs are holding it back?

On a basic level, yes. Your 4690K can be paired with a 1080, if you'd like, and bottlenecks would be seen in a few games but not all of them. 

 

Get the 144Hz and the 1070 (or 1080) until you can find a 4790K for cheap and sell your 4690K afterwards to recover cost of the GPU.

[i_build_nanosuits]

6 hours ago, BonkersTA said:

So my PC runs a MSI Gaming X Geforce GTX 1070 video card and my processor at this current point in time is a Intel Core I5 4690k.  I have a BenQ GL2250 1080p 60hz monitor however I am looking to maybe upgrade to a Acer Predator XB241HBmipr 24 inch 1080p 144hz monitor.  My gaming of choice is mostly all around with my latest fad being Batman Arkham Knight (the game has improved a lot since it first came out on PC).

 

Is my processor of choice bottlenecking my PC especially if I chose to purchase a 144hz monitor?

your monitor is your biggest bottleneck...i'd look for a 2560x1440 monitor personally.