I don't know how to overclock ? rayzn 7 1700

[d7omepro]

Hi guys finally I purchased my pc from Amazon UK and shipped it to KSA , soon I will lead my hands on it.  

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wx83QV

 

Anyway when I made this build I was already having plan to overclock it as ppl use to suggest me here and I thought there will be a lot of tutorials in YouTube will teach me how to do OC on amd RYZEN 7 1700 & Asrock taichi X370 with details and everything will be explained..  But unluckily I didn't find what I really want ?.. All of the tutorials are explaining for those who already knows ? 

 

 

What do I need from you guys? 

I need beautiful tutorial or something can guide me step by step how to overclock this pc to 4.0+ghz

 

 

Thank you 

Oxox ?☺

 

 

[Marinatall_Ironside]

 

[d7omepro]

Just now, JurunceNK said:

 

I will watch it and get back 

[baginitis]

Every CPU I've overclocked so far was from Intel (Pentium 4, I5-750, I7-3770k) but I'd be surprised if it AMD is a lot different.
Here's the basics that you can (probably) change:

>CPU clock rate (or CPU ratio, BCLK etc.)
In layman terms, this is how often your CPU "thinks" per second. Instructions that the CPU is working on need to be in order, so it all gets synced through the clock. The faster it "ticks", the faster your computer is able to perform its task. This is the number you want to get higher for more performance. This is called overclocking.

>CPU core voltage (Vcore)
This is how much voltage your CPU will draw through the motherboard.

>CPU offset voltage
For CPUs with the ability to regulate their power draw on their own. For example idle the CPU clocks itself down to 1.6Ghz only needing 1 volts but under load it can boost itself to 4Ghz and then needs more voltage, lets say 1.3 volt. The CPU can do this on its own when you overclock using offset voltage.
If your CPU can use 1.2 volts MAX pre-overclock, setting offset to 0.05v will allow it to draw a maximum of 1.25volts if needed.

General rules for all brand and any generation of CPU:
0.: always overclock your CPU through BIOS/UEFI, never any in-OS software
1.: higher clock rate usually needs more power and therefor higher voltage
2.: higher voltage leads to higher CPU temperatures
3.: if you push your voltage too high you WILL destroy your CPU

4.: Overclocking your CPU will draw more power, make sure your PSU is strong enough to handle it (putting estimated values for your voltage and clock speed into PSU calculators such as this one https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator is not a bad start)
5.: increase clock rate FIRST and then adjust your voltage in small increments until your system is stable at the desired clock rate -> look online for the clock speed others are achieving to have an estimate at where to start
6.: if you cant get it stable dial back the overclock (a stable system is a system that does not crash under full load over a long period of time)
7.: an overclock can still be unhealthy (even if the system is stable), if your temperatures are too high. In this case -> dial back your clock rate and voltage
8.: offset mode is always a good option, if your Motherboard supports it

9.: almost every CPU is unique in its overclocking performance and the exact numbers you need

I think that's pretty much it. If anyone can find a big flaw, let me know and I'll edit it as fast as I can.
For your specific problem there is literally no better way than to UNDERSTAND what overclocking is FIRST. Following a step by step guide will lead a lot of users into trouble because of rule number 9 and because a lot of step by step guides are made by idiots that don't know what they are doing. If you understood these things and you look in any BIOS/UEFI that supports overclocking you will find either the options mentioned above (for Intel) or something very similar for AMD. Using common sense and some basic logic you will then be able to figure out everything else without much trouble.

 

Have fun and don't kill your hardware

[d7omepro]

4 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

 

I'm sorry but this video wasn't useful for me ?

Actually i need someone who can tell me do this, this,  this and u will ger 4+ghz 

[Marinatall_Ironside]

1 minute ago, d7omepro said:

I'm sorry but this video wasn't useful for me ?

Actually i need someone who can tell me do this, this,  this and u will ger 4+ghz 

I apologize, but with the board you selected, I wouldn't be sure where to point you to. If it was an Asus or an MSI motherboard, it would have made it easier for me, but I'll give you some advice.

 

1. Never use any OS tools to overclock the CPU. It will apply the wrong settings, leading to instability and hardware degradation.
2. All Ryzen CPUs will hit anywhere from 3.8 GHz all the way to 4.0 GHz, depending on voltage settings and "silicon lottery" (how far will your CPU go with x frequency and x voltage before instability). You may get different results.
3. A higher voltage setting and frequency will cause more heat to be dumped into your system and draw more power. Be sure to have sufficient cooling and a strong enough power supply (quality and wattage wise) before attempting any overclock.
   1. Stock voltage will cause the power draw to remain the same, but heat output will increase as a result. I've seen this with my i7-5930K before.
4. If you encounter instability, dial back the frequency and voltage settings.
5. Always use the offset setting and leave the BCLK setting alone, as some motherboards don't like having their BCLK messed with, as it changes the operation of other buses like PCIe and SATA for example.
6. Before adjusting RAM settings, adjust your CPU settings first.
   1. When you're manually tuning RAM settings, find the most stable frequency before tightening your timings. When you're tightening the timings, do these in one-step increments. For frequency, some increments are not stable, even though they're not high frequencies. For the CL clock, this number should be anywhere from 14 to 16. the tRCD should be 14 to 16, tRP 14 to 16, and tRAS from 34 to 36 (I manually tuned my Dominator Platinum SE to 2400 MHz with 14-14-14-34 timings at 1.2 volts. XMP changes my CPU cache frequency to 3.1 GHz and cranks the voltage, resulting in increased idle power consumption). Voltage should be 1.2 or 1.35 volts depending on how far you're going to push your RAM. Also leave the Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) and Command Rate alone. This video will tell you more about RAM timings and what the listed terminologies mean.
7. Overvolting your CPU too much will burn out your CPU. Anywhere from 1.3 to 1.42 as your maximum should be safe voltage limits.
8. When overclocking to higher frequencies, you may need to add more voltage to achieve higher clocks.

I hope I covered everything  Enjoy.

[baginitis]

9 minutes ago, d7omepro said:

I'm sorry but this video wasn't useful for me ?

Actually i need someone who can tell me do this, this,  this and u will ger 4+ghz 

Again, this is probably not going to work because we don't know how your CPU handles clock and voltage changes, we don't know your PSU, cooling performance of your system overall etc.
Understand it first, then go from some base information that you can find on the internet to start your overclock and slowly dial it up (if you think the system will still be stable and temps fine) or down (if the system is unstable or temps too hot).
You could get lucky with a "just change voltage to x.xxv and your clock rate to x.xx Ghz" but if you are not you will still be on your own. Also I'm pretty sure a "4+ghz" overclock with the 1700 is hardly possible. It seems to be running insanely hot at 1.4v - 3.8Ghz on air already without taking into account that you might have a CPU that overclocks badly, meaning that you could only reach maybe 3.7Ghz at 1.4v. (source: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/03/20/amd_ryzen_7_1700_retail_cpu_overclocking_x_2)

If I were you, I'd shoot for a +500Mhz overclock and go from there. Again: adjust the voltage slowly, don't jump too high if you don't have to.
 

[Simon771]

It's easy to OC, and there are a bunch of guides how to overclock.

Just type Ryzne overclocking on youtube and watch first page of those videos.

 

You will be increasing your multiplier ... probbably somewhere between 37 and 40.

CPU voltage somewhere between 1,3V and 1,417V. I wouldn't go above 1,417V for Ryzen.

 

About memory ... since you will have 4 DIM sticks, it will probbably work at lower clock speeds. I guess something like 2600 or 2800MHz.

 

That's the basic.

[DocSwag]

Overclocking all CPUs is pretty much the same, you just have different frequency and voltage limits.

 

Anyhow, here's a step by step guide.

1. I would go for a decent overclock to start off with, maybe something like 3.6 ghz with 1.3v. Download Asus realbench and use it to stress test for 10 or so minutes to make sure your OC is stable.

2. Go back to the bios and up the frequency by 100 MHz.

3. Go and stress tests with Asus realbench again, for 5 minutes to verify its stable.

4. If the OC wasn't stable and your system crashed or Asus realbench said instability detected, don't worry! Go back into the bios and bump the voltage up by .01v, and go back to step 3.* If your voltage is now at 1.4v, I wouldn't go any higher.

5. If it was stable, but temps were very high (above 80C, for example), you might want to go back 100 MHz.

6. If it was stable, voltage was 1.4v or below, and temps were good, go back to step 2.

7. Once you're done and you've found the highest frequency you can achieve without going past 1.4v or getting into mid 80C while stress testing, leave Asus realbench running for a few hours to make for sure that your overclock is stable. If it isn't, go back to step 5.

*you could also increase LLC instead of increasing voltage, this will make your CPU not as readily drop off voltage, which may increase the likelihood of the CPU being stable at a certain voltage, though your idle power consumption may increase as a result.

[d7omepro]

9 hours ago, baginitis said:

Every CPU I've overclocked so far was from Intel (Pentium 4, I5-750, I7-3770k) but I'd be surprised if it AMD is a lot different.
Here's the basics that you can (probably) change:

>CPU clock rate (or CPU ratio, BCLK etc.)
In layman terms, this is how often your CPU "thinks" per second. Instructions that the CPU is working on need to be in order, so it all gets synced through the clock. The faster it "ticks", the faster your computer is able to perform its task. This is the number you want to get higher for more performance. This is called overclocking.

>CPU core voltage (Vcore)
This is how much voltage your CPU will draw through the motherboard.

>CPU offset voltage
For CPUs with the ability to regulate their power draw on their own. For example idle the CPU clocks itself down to 1.6Ghz only needing 1 volts but under load it can boost itself to 4Ghz and then needs more voltage, lets say 1.3 volt. The CPU can do this on its own when you overclock using offset voltage.
If your CPU can use 1.2 volts MAX pre-overclock, setting offset to 0.05v will allow it to draw a maximum of 1.25volts if needed.

General rules for all brand and any generation of CPU:
0.: always overclock your CPU through BIOS/UEFI, never any in-OS software
1.: higher clock rate usually needs more power and therefor higher voltage
2.: higher voltage leads to higher CPU temperatures
3.: if you push your voltage too high you WILL destroy your CPU

4.: Overclocking your CPU will draw more power, make sure your PSU is strong enough to handle it (putting estimated values for your voltage and clock speed into PSU calculators such as this one https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator is not a bad start)
5.: increase clock rate FIRST and then adjust your voltage in small increments until your system is stable at the desired clock rate -> look online for the clock speed others are achieving to have an estimate at where to start
6.: if you cant get it stable dial back the overclock (a stable system is a system that does not crash under full load over a long period of time)
7.: an overclock can still be unhealthy (even if the system is stable), if your temperatures are too high. In this case -> dial back your clock rate and voltage
8.: offset mode is always a good option, if your Motherboard supports it

9.: almost every CPU is unique in its overclocking performance and the exact numbers you need

I think that's pretty much it. If anyone can find a big flaw, let me know and I'll edit it as fast as I can.
For your specific problem there is literally no better way than to UNDERSTAND what overclocking is FIRST. Following a step by step guide will lead a lot of users into trouble because of rule number 9 and because a lot of step by step guides are made by idiots that don't know what they are doing. If you understood these things and you look in any BIOS/UEFI that supports overclocking you will find either the options mentioned above (for Intel) or something very similar for AMD. Using common sense and some basic logic you will then be able to figure out everything else without much trouble.

 

Have fun and don't kill your hardware

Why did you say don't kill your hardware... Does overclocking effect the hardware badly? 

[baginitis]

2 hours ago, d7omepro said:

Why did you say don't kill your hardware... Does overclocking effect the hardware badly? 

I have written the answer in the text you quoted above. Look at my Rule number 3 and rule number 7, this should answer your question. Also please actually read what we post here, we are trying to help. If your english is not good enough to understand what we are writing, I could translate it to either German or Hungarian, alternatively just use a translator.
If you have any unanswered questions, let me know.

[d7omepro]

5 hours ago, baginitis said:

I have written the answer in the text you quoted above. Look at my Rule number 3 and rule number 7, this should answer your question. Also please actually read what we post here, we are trying to help. If your english is not good enough to understand what we are writing, I could translate it to either German or Hungarian, alternatively just use a translator.
If you have any unanswered questions, let me know.

Brother I already read everything but what I meant 

Is that means do not overclock at all?

 

And I'm really thankful to everyone 

[d7omepro]

8 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Overclocking all CPUs is pretty much the same, you just have different frequency and voltage limits.

 

Anyhow, here's a step by step guide.

1. I would go for a decent overclock to start off with, maybe something like 3.6 ghz with 1.3v. Download Asus realbench and use it to stress test for 10 or so minutes to make sure your OC is stable.

2. Go back to the bios and up the frequency by 100 MHz.

3. Go and stress tests with Asus realbench again, for 5 minutes to verify its stable.

4. If the OC wasn't stable and your system crashed or Asus realbench said instability detected, don't worry! Go back into the bios and bump the voltage up by .01v, and go back to step 3.* If your voltage is now at 1.4v, I wouldn't go any higher.

5. If it was stable, but temps were very high (above 80C, for example), you might want to go back 100 MHz.

6. If it was stable, voltage was 1.4v or below, and temps were good, go back to step 2.

7. Once you're done and you've found the highest frequency you can achieve without going past 1.4v or getting into mid 80C while stress testing, leave Asus realbench running for a few hours to make for sure that your overclock is stable. If it isn't, go back to step 5.

*you could also increase LLC instead of increasing voltage, this will make your CPU not as readily drop off voltage, which may increase the likelihood of the CPU being stable at a certain voltage, though your idle power consumption may increase as a result.

Got it thank you so much 

[d7omepro]

8 hours ago, Simon771 said:

It's easy to OC, and there are a bunch of guides how to overclock.

Just type Ryzne overclocking on youtube and watch first page of those videos.

 

You will be increasing your multiplier ... probbably somewhere between 37 and 40.

CPU voltage somewhere between 1,3V and 1,417V. I wouldn't go above 1,417V for Ryzen.

 

About memory ... since you will have 4 DIM sticks, it will probbably work at lower clock speeds. I guess something like 2600 or 2800MHz.

 

That's the basic.

Between 1.3 to 1.4 is always safe as I understand but is that mean that will not effect the cpu at all even if use it for long periods 

[d7omepro]

The real issue that I'm not familiar with any BIOS except  laptop bios 

So I don't know anything about overlooking and how it works 

Now I got to know so much because of u guys and I'm thankful to u guys

 

When I see the BIOS interface I cant understand anything I don't know what to increase and what to decrease 

 

I'm really scared to frie my CPU that's why I ask more and more 

[TheUzu]

These are the OC settings on my 1700, I set these in the BIOS.

 

 

[d7omepro]

38 minutes ago, S.Stephenson said:

These are the OC settings on my 1700, I set these in the BIOS.

 

 

It looks much easier than asrock interface ??

[Simon771]

9 hours ago, d7omepro said:

Between 1.3 to 1.4 is always safe as I understand but is that mean that will not effect the cpu at all even if use it for long periods 

Not sure if 1,4V would drasticly decrease life span of your CPU.

I'm using 1,35V 3,85GHz for 24/7. And because I don't have option to set p-state in BIOS, my CPU will be always running at that voltage and frequency. So I will just have to see how long will CPU survive in those conditions.

 

From what I heard, 1,4V is still safe to use for 24/7 usage.