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Hey so in 2 weeks i will be building this beauty:  https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MwKnqk    , What keyboard should i get for it? the theme is red/black also i have no idea what type of keys are good i have never used a gaming keyboard. The budget is around £50 but if there is a way better one for  £ 65 i can get the money. thanks. I manly play fps games like csgo

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Might I recommend you to get a B350 motherboard (any will do tbh) and an R5 1400? Mostly because you get a hyperthreaded, overclockable quadcore that has decent performance compared to Intel.

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1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

Might I recommend you to get a B350 motherboard (any will do tbh) and an R5 1400? Mostly because you get a hyperthreaded, overclockable quadcore that has decent performance compared to Intel.

This is my first build, I dont want to risk anything going wrong since i have no experience over clocking. But thanks though

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4 minutes ago, DocBrown said:

Hey so in 2 weeks i will be building this beauty:  https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MwKnqk    , What keyboard should i get for it? the theme is red/black also i have no idea what type of keys are good i have never used a gaming keyboard. The budget is around £50 but if there is a way better one for  £ 65 i can get the money. thanks. I manly play fps games like csgo

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7 minutes ago, DocBrown said:

This is my first build, I dont want to risk anything going wrong since i have no experience over clocking. But thanks though

Either way, the i5's are a bad buy right now, AMD basically has every bracket barring 7700k for pure gaming on high FPS and 10/20 thread 6950X

 

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Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.77 @ Amazon UK)
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Total: £573.40
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As for keyboard, you can normally find an K65 RGB refurb for around that price

 

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Get a slightly worse case, and an ssd.

r5 1400 will last an extra 2 years compared to the i5.

rx580 is slightly better than the 480 if you can get it for the same price

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2 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

Either way, the i5's are a bad buy right now, AMD basically has every bracket barring 7700k for pure gaming on high FPS and 10/20 thread 6950X

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£166.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£74.54 @ Alza)
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£69.47 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 480 8GB GAMING X Video Card
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.77 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  (£109.00 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: SteelSeries - Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00)
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger  Headset  (Purchased For £0.00)
Speakers: Logitech - Z200 0W 2ch Speakers  (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £573.40
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Add another 3000mhz 8GB stick later
 
As for keyboard, you can normally find an K65 RGB refurb for around that price

Could you link a part picker build for an amazon.co.uk build with that (when i change it myself some of the parts are not available)

 And thanks for the help

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£149.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.85 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£56.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£214.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  (£109.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Mouse: SteelSeries - Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger  Headset  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Speakers: Logitech - Z200 0W 2ch Speakers  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £752.23
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9 minutes ago, DocBrown said:

Could you link a part picker build for an amazon.co.uk build with that (when i change it myself some of the parts are not available)

 And thanks for the help

 

I don't know your budget, but ideally you want 2x8gb of 3200mhz + if possible

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£169.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£79.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 480 8GB GAMING X Video Card
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.77 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  (£109.00 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: SteelSeries - Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00)
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger  Headset  (Purchased For £0.00)
Speakers: Logitech - Z200 0W 2ch Speakers  (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £512.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU - Ryzen 1700 @ 4Ghz  Motherboard - Gigabyte AX370 Aorus Gaming 5   Ram - 16Gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200  GPU - Palit 1080GTX Gamerock Premium  Storage - Samsung XP941 256GB, Crucial MX300 525GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB   PSU - Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W  Case - INWIN 303 White Display - Asus PG278Q Gsync 144hz 1440P

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26 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Might I recommend you to get a B350 motherboard (any will do tbh) and an R5 1400? Mostly because you get a hyperthreaded, overclockable quadcore that has decent performance compared to Intel.

 

24 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

R5 1400 + 16 GB RAM @ 3200 MHz + RX 580

 

12 minutes ago, Jrock said:

Get a slightly worse case, and an ssd.

r5 1400 will last an extra 2 years compared to the i5.

rx580 is slightly better than the 480 if you can get it for the same price

 

2 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£149.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.85 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£56.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£214.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  (£109.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Mouse: SteelSeries - Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger  Headset  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Speakers: Logitech - Z200 0W 2ch Speakers  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £752.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I don't have any problem with the 1500x, but the 1400 isn't very good. The 8mb cache really hurts it.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1400/

Even in CPU tests its only on par with the i5s until you OC. In games, it's worse than a friggin G4560, while i5s are comfortably over 20% ahead at 720p. At 1080p it's closer, at 10%, but still a big difference.

 

I'd say a 6500 is comparable to the 7400, which is sitting 10% faster at 1080p.

 

I really don't think the 1400 will ever meaningfully pull ahead of the 6500, especially when it doesn't really beat the 7400 in multi threaded tasks.

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1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

 

 

 

I don't have any problem with the 1500x, but the 1400 isn't very good. The 8mb cache really hurts it.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1400/

Even in CPU tests its only on par with the i5s until you OC. In games, it's worse than a friggin G4560, while i5s are comfortably over 20% ahead at 720p. At 1080p it's closer, at 10%, but still a big difference.

 

I'd say a 6500 is comparable to the 7400, which is sitting 10% faster at 1080p.

 

I really don't think the 1400 will ever meaningfully pull ahead of the 6500, especially when it doesn't really beat the 7400 in multi threaded tasks.

wait so should i stick to my original build (6500)

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37 minutes ago, DocBrown said:

wait so should i stick to my original build (6500)

Probably not :P since better Ryzen CPUs are available for around the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.83 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£63.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£50.72 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 480 8GB GAMING X Video Card 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  (£109.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Mouse: SteelSeries - Rival 300 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger  Headset  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Speakers: Logitech - Z200 0W 2ch Speakers  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £568.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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If you don't want to raise the price at all you could get a 1500x instead, and end up with something cheaper than the 6500 option, but I'd recommend you get a 1600.

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