Which build is better?

[Vandorlot]

This is my computer-graphics card and monitor.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZ33nn

My choice between graphics cards are                  gtx 1060 wind force oc6g   ------  rx 480 Gaming 8G

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KQQRsY/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-8gb-gaming-8g-video-card-gv-rx580gaming-8gd

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7RKhP6/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-windforce-oc-6g-video-card-gv-n1060wf2oc-6gd

My choice of monitors is            LG 29UM69G-B ---------------- Asus VG248QE

I was initially aiming for the 1060 and the Asus monitor, but then I realized that I don't need the 144 Hz cause either way my GPU couldn't get higher than like 65 fps, so I searched for another one and found the LG one. Its response time is lower and so is the HZ, but it's a curved widescreen. It also had free sync and ips so I decided to go for the rx580 and the LG monitor. Am I making a good choice? Im going to be gaming. I will play games like gta 5, bf1, far cry, fps games, much more simmilar games.

[LienusLateTips]

RX 580 is better.

[RadiatingLight]

Depends what you want.

for you, I think the LG will be better, since you're not playing competitive games.

Stuff like BF1, GTA V, Etc. don't need lightning fast reaction times, so the more cinematic monitor is best IMO.

CS:GO, and other competitive games need fast reaction times, so 144Hz might give you a slight advantage if you're already pretty good.

[Vandorlot]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

Depends what you want.

for you, I think the LG will be better, since you're not playing competitive games.

Stuff like BF1, GTA V, Etc. don't need lightning fast reaction times, so the more cinematic monitor is best IMO.

CS:GO, and other competitive games need fast reaction times, so 144Hz might give you a slight advantage if you're already pretty good.

im pretty bad at fps tbh. What are some other competitivie games?

[Vandorlot]

1 minute ago, SonicThunder said:

Get the Lg and 580, unless you really like overwatch, as it sucks in 21:9

No i hate it

[DocSwag]

Rx 580+dat lg, it's freesync too.

 

I'd also recommend you go 1600 instead of 7600k, btw.

[Vandorlot]

Just now, SonicThunder said:

Most other competitive games should run fine on either or.

 

ok thanks

[RadiatingLight]

10 hours ago, Vandorlot said:

im pretty bad at fps tbh. What are some other competitivie games?

Depends how good you are at a game.

If you're a super-competitive BF1 player, and are playing to get better and to climb up the ranks, then maybe you need a 144Hz monitor.

Basically, if you really need a slight competitive advantage in any game, get the 144Hz monitor. other than that, the LG is better.

10 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Rx 580+dat lg, it's freesync too.

 

I'd also recommend you go 1600 instead of 7600k, btw.

+1 to this

1600 is better in every way than the 7600K. (and it's cheaper including a motherboard)

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

+1 to this

1600 is better in every way than the 7600K. (and it's cheaper including a motherboard)

And it comes with a stock cooler that you can use!

[Guest Storm10]

@Vandorlot Do you have a budget? What LG monitor are you getting and what resolution will you be playing in? 

 

[Vandorlot]

10 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

+1 to this

1600 is better in every way than the 7600K. (and it's cheaper including a motherboard)

Whats a motherboard that is around 100 dollars for ryzen that has simmilar specs to the Gigabyte - GA-Z270XP-SLI. I can get that motherboard for 100 dollars.

10 hours ago, Storm10 said:

@Vandorlot Do you have a budget? What LG monitor are you getting and what resolution will you be playing in?

My budget it 1400 USD, but I would much rather spend less and get it for 1300 ish so I can get more games. I can get windows 10 for 30 dollars btw.

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, Vandorlot said:

Whats a motherboard that is around 100 dollars for ryzen that has simmilar specs to the Gigabyte - GA-Z270XP-SLI. I can get that motherboard for 100 dollars.

If you're sticking with AMD cards, you can get a MSI B350 PC-Mate (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c2DzK8/msi-b350-pc-mate-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-pc-mate)

However, B350 motherboards can't SLI

if you really want that feature, you can get this one, which is slightly more expensive. (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZdPzK8/biostar-x370gt5-atx-am4-motherboard-x370gt5)

 

the cheaper one can overclock though, and it can run crossfire, so it should be good for you.

[Vandorlot]

2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

If you're sticking with AMD cards, you can get a MSI B350 PC-Mate (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c2DzK8/msi-b350-pc-mate-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-pc-mate)

However, B350 motherboards can't SLI

if you really want that feature, you can get this one, which is slightly more expensive. (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZdPzK8/biostar-x370gt5-atx-am4-motherboard-x370gt5)

 

the cheaper one can overclock though, and it can run crossfire, so it should be good for you.

Is there one preferably ASUS, Gigabyte. I am also fine with ASRock. I REALLY hate MSI motherboards.

[Guest Storm10]

10 hours ago, Vandorlot said:

Is there one preferably ASUS, Gigabyte. I am also fine with ASRock. I REALLY hate MSI motherboards.

Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS

[Vandorlot]

10 hours ago, Storm10 said:

Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS

 

10 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

If you're sticking with AMD cards, you can get a MSI B350 PC-Mate (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c2DzK8/msi-b350-pc-mate-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-pc-mate)

However, B350 motherboards can't SLI

if you really want that feature, you can get this one, which is slightly more expensive. (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZdPzK8/biostar-x370gt5-atx-am4-motherboard-x370gt5)

 

the cheaper one can overclock though, and it can run crossfire, so it should be good for you.

 

10 hours ago, DocSwag said:

And it comes with a stock cooler that you can use!

Money Aside, is ryzen really that much better for games? Its just that based on benchmarks its not that much faster.

10 hours ago, Vandorlot said:

Money Aside, is ryzen really that much better for games? Its just that based on benchmarks its not that much faster.

Ryzen is fairly new and I just have my doubts @DocSwag @RadiatingLight @Storm10

[genexis_x]

4 minutes ago, Vandorlot said:

Money Aside, is ryzen really that much better for games? Its just that based on benchmarks its not that much faster.

Yes, Ryzen provide stabler framerates which is more important than average framerates in gaming. You don't want to have a high FPS but choppy gameplay.

[Vandorlot]

10 hours ago, Storm10 said:

-snip-

Im not going to be overclocking though.

 

I watched the whole video, Ryzen 5 had around 10 frames less on every game, and it wasn't choppy one either cpu. The Ryzen build is only 14 dollars cheaper and on the intel side, I could get the motherboard for 30 dollars cheaper soooooo then the intel build would be 16 dollars cheaper.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mg7yr7

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PYsj9W

Note: The monitor cant be found on pcpart picker which is why its not there.

[RadiatingLight]

1 hour ago, Vandorlot said:

@DocSwag @RadiatingLight @Storm10

Just reviving the conversation.

 

Ryzen is worse for gaming than an i5 according to some benchmarks, because they only show average framerates.

the i5 has microstutter, especially if you don't close all tabs and background programs like benchmarkers usually do.

 

the 1600 will also age WAY better over time.

 

[Vandorlot]

6 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Ryzen is worse for gaming than an i5 according to some benchmarks, because they only show average framerates.

the i5 has microstutter, especially if you don't close all tabs and background programs like benchmarkers usually do.

 

the 1600 will also age WAY better over time.

 

Ok you convinced me, ill get the 1600

[Guest Storm10]

8 hours ago, Vandorlot said:

Ok you convinced me, ill get the 1600

Also, realized you're getting the Logitech - G930.

[Guest Storm10]

@Vandorlot What is your opinion on Noctua...

[DocSwag]

9 hours ago, Vandorlot said:

I watched the whole video, Ryzen 5 had around 10 frames less on every game, and it wasn't choppy one either cpu. The Ryzen build is only 14 dollars cheaper and on the intel side, I could get the motherboard for 30 dollars cheaper soooooo then the intel build would be 16 dollars cheaper.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mg7yr7

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PYsj9W

Note: The monitor cant be found on pcpart picker which is why its not there.

Thing is,

in witcher 3 it was a wash.

in primal Intel won, but only by a few fps.

In the others, intel definitely won.

 

HOWEVER. Those other 4 titles have been known to favor Intel. Especially gta, rise of the tomb raider, and fallout 4.

 

And before you ask, yes, there are titles that favor Ryzen. Such as doom, civ vi, and ashes.

 

As well, if you look at the CPU usage, the i5 is around 70-90% in most games, indicating that it's at the point where it doesn't have that much more to stretch, due to only having 4 cores.

 

The R5 on the other hand, is at a comfortable 30-50%.

 

Also, you don't need that mobo. A B350 pc mate will do. As well, the aftermarket CPU cooler on Ryzen is unnecessary. After that, the 1600 is actually cheaper by around $60-$70.

 

Do note that I don't recommend the Gigabyte Gaming amd cards. They aren't very good. At the very least, get an aorus or pulse card instead.

[Vandorlot]

4 hours ago, Storm10 said:

@Vandorlot What is your opinion on Noctua...

The best coolers performance and silence-wise, high price, very ugly

[Vandorlot]

5 hours ago, Storm10 said:

Also, realized you're getting the Logitech - G930. Read this.

Which ones should I get, I dont need 7.1. I only really want mic plus headphone combo. I would also like wireless.

34 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Thing is,

in witcher 3 it was a wash.

in primal Intel won, but only by a few fps.

In the others, intel definitely won.

 

HOWEVER. Those other 4 titles have been known to favor Intel. Especially gta, rise of the tomb raider, and fallout 4.

 

And before you ask, yes, there are titles that favor Ryzen. Such as doom, civ vi, and ashes.

 

As well, if you look at the CPU usage, the i5 is around 70-90% in most games, indicating that it's at the point where it doesn't have that much more to stretch, due to only having 4 cores.

 

The R5 on the other hand, is at a comfortable 30-50%.

 

Also, you don't need that mobo. A B350 pc mate will do. As well, the aftermarket CPU cooler on Ryzen is unnecessary. After that, the 1600 is actually cheaper by around $60-$70.

 

Do note that I don't recommend the Gigabyte Gaming amd cards. They aren't very good. At the very least, get an aorus or pulse card instead.

Ok, why dont you reccomened gigabyte video cards. The reveiws seem to be fine, it looks nice, and it the cheapest 8g

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, Vandorlot said:

Ok, why dont you reccomened gigabyte video cards. The reveiws seem to be fine, it looks nice, and it the cheapest 8g

You're probably looking at the Aorus cards, which are fine.

 

Just judging off this review for the G1 gaming 480:

 

The 580 one is just gonna run hotter.