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Ryzen 5 1600 vs i7-7700

I am currently a High School Senior getting ready to attend the University of Florida in the fall. I will be majoring in Aerospace engineering, and I am upgrading my current build to be able to handle the necessary workload. This is where I need you guys. I will need to be able to run applications like Matlab, SolidWorks, and AutoCad on a consistent basis with strong performance.

 

I am looking to upgrade within the next couple weeks and need to decide which CPU would be better: i7-7700 or Ryzen 5 1600??? Either way the CPU will be paired with a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080. In addition to running these programs, another focus of the build is gaming. I realize both of these CPU's would be able to handle 1080p gaming very well, with absolutely no issues.

 

I just have no idea if the 7700 or 1600 would perform better in the applications listed above.

 

All advice and recommendations are welcome. Thanks! :)

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

1600

Any specific reason why?

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1 minute ago, raysfan98 said:

Any specific reason why?

because those programs works better/renders faster multi threaded, so more cores and threads=better

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Just now, raysfan98 said:

Any specific reason why?

Solid works and autocapitalize are single threaded but Ryzen can be OCed to 4ghz or so, making it close to the 7700 in performance. Matlab is more multi threaded and should see Ryzen much more noticeably faster. Ryzen also gives a better upgrade path (where ya gonna go from a 7700? 8700k will be the farthest probably whereas am4 will continue to get new CPUs until 2020).

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1 minute ago, Blackhole890 said:

because those programs works better/renders faster multi threaded, so more cores and threads=better

 

Just now, DocSwag said:

Solid works and autocapitalize are single threaded but Ryzen can be OCed to 4ghz or so, making it close to the 7700 in performance. Matlab is more multi threaded and should see Ryzen much more noticeably faster. Ryzen also gives a better upgrade path (where ya gonna go from a 7700? 8700k will be the farthest probably whereas am4 will continue to get new CPUs until 2020).

Thanks so much for the input! The 1600 it is! 

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2 minutes ago, raysfan98 said:

Any specific reason why?

Where the i7 excells is game proformance and single threaded workloads. What you are wanting to do is handling lots of verry heavy multi threaded workloads, which is where Ryzen excells. You can still game with Ryzen and get verry good gaming performance, though probably not as high framerates as Intel.

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Where the i7 excells is game proformance and single threaded workloads. What you are wanting to do is handling lots of verry heavy multi threaded workloads, which is where Ryzen excells. You can still game with Ryzen and get verry good gaming performance, though probably not as high framerates as Intel.

Thanks! Ryzen it is!

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13 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

because those programs works better/renders faster multi threaded, so more cores and threads=better

 

10 minutes ago, BluJay614 said:

Where the i7 excells is game proformance and single threaded workloads. What you are wanting to do is handling lots of verry heavy multi threaded workloads, which is where Ryzen excells. You can still game with Ryzen and get verry good gaming performance, though probably not as high framerates as Intel.

Not entirely accurate, some productivity apps like solid works and autocad are more single threaded, though my recommendation is still Ryzen.

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10 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

 

Not entirely accurate, some productivity apps like solid works and autocad are more single threaded, though my recommendation is still Ryzen.

sources?

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31 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

sources?

For solidworks and autocad:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-9.html

Matlab tis a bit outdated but it gets the point across that it's multithreaded.

 

EDIT: oops matlab link http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-e-efficiency-core-i7-3960x,3075-5.html

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41 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

For solidworks and autocad:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-9.html

Matlab tis a bit outdated but it gets the point across that it's multithreaded.

 

EDIT: oops matlab link http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-e-efficiency-core-i7-3960x,3075-5.html

but the price/performance i think that r5 1600 is more worth, no?

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4 hours ago, Blackhole890 said:

but the price/performance i think that r5 1600 is more worth, no?

Well you also have to factor in slightly higher mobo costs but overall it's cheaper.

 

Never said I recommend the 7700 :P 

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Laptop (I use it for school):

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And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb

 

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