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1 minute ago, its.the.doc said:

Can you recommend a graphic card?Besides the games that i mentioned (overwatch,lol,pubg) i would prefer a graphic card that will not limit me to them.Maybe in a year i will want to try something harder to run.It would be a wastebif i am going to need an upgrade again wouldnt it?

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So i am in the last month of high school and i want to upgrade my pc so i can enjoy gaming this summer.I dont have enough knowledge to choose a cpu (i3 i5 i7 confuse me a lot) or a graphic card.I have heard that my cpu must be compatible with my motherboard or smth like that.(Name on motherboard's box: H81-M PCID).I would like to be able to play games like playeruknown's battleground overwatch league of legends etc.I am just asking for some advice or explanation so i can be able to deal with this.(sorry for bad english and anyway thank you to anybody who will answer.) +last summer i upgraded my ram to 12 gb and no i dont need mouse keyboard or any hardware

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it supports intel Haswell And Haswell Refresh I7/I5/I3/Pentium/Celeron CPU's

i'd recommend a used 4790k

whats your budget?

i guess you're playing at 1080p so maybe a 1060/1070

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The best thing you can do is tell us your budget and country so we can set up a few lists of options that you can build, also explain if you need monitor, mice, keyboard or only the computer.

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What PC is that? What its full specifications? 

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Just now, McHox said:

it supportsIntel Haswell And Haswell Refresh I7/I5/I3/Pentium/Celeron CPU's

i'd recommend a used 4790k

whats your budget?

i guess you're playing at 1080p so maybe a 1060/1070

Maybe 500 or 600 € about both cpu and graphic card withaout anything extra.Btw can i read somewhere the diferences between the products you recommended?I mean how can i know which is the one that fits my needs.

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6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

The best thing you can do is tell us your budget and country so we can set up a few lists of options that you can build, also explain if you need monitor, mice, keyboard or only the computer.

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a used i7 4th gen (4770, 4770K, 4790, 4790k~) would be very decent and cost effective (since your Board is fit for those, and you already have 12gb DDR3 Ram).

 

Then an RX 580 8gb as Custom design, or GTX 1060 and you're fine for a while.

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2 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

a used i7 4th gen (4770, 4770K, 4790, 4790k~) would be very decent and cost effective (since your Board is fit for those, and you already have 12gb DDR3 Ram).

 

Then an RX 580 8gb as Custom design, or GTX 1060 and you're fine for a while.

For a while?? I want this pc for 5 years at least while i will be at the university.

 

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Those 5 years should be in ;)

GPU maybe less since.. GPU ages fast... especially, if you buy a midrange GPU.

But an i7 4th Gen should do a good job in 5 years. Not the best then of course, but a very decent job.

 

Just... really aim for an i7, not for an i5. Trust me. ^^ Hyperthreading DOES make a difference, especially later on, when the CPU hits the limit faster. (just like today, i5 2500k vs. i7 2600k)

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4 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Those 5 years should be in ;)

GPU maybe less since.. GPU ages fast... especially, if you buy a midrange GPU.

But an i7 4th Gen should do a good job in 5 years. Not the best then of course, but a very decent job.

 

Just... really aim for an i7, not for an i5. Trust me. ^^ Hyperthreading DOES make a difference, especially later on, when the CPU hits the limit faster. (just like today, i5 2500k vs. i7 2600k)

For the games he plays I think he will be fine for a loonng while.

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18 minutes ago, its.the.doc said:

Just edited the topic

 

By the way, what is your full current specifications including the power supply.

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29 minutes ago, McHox said:

it supports intel Haswell And Haswell Refresh I7/I5/I3/Pentium/Celeron CPU's

i'd recommend a used 4790k

whats your budget?

i guess you're playing at 1080p so maybe a 1060/1070

For such requirements of 1080p something along the lines of a 1050ti or RX 460 shall provide well, with a 4790k being out of budget for many. Aside from that I agree, your motherboard must have a compatible chipset/socket for your CPU, to which is listed below motherboards nearly always. 

 

Support list for a H81-M-PCI:

Intel Haswell And Haswell Refresh I7/I5/I3/Pentium/Celeron CPU In 1150 Pin.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, EnergyEclipse said:

For such requirements of 1080p something along the lines of a 1050ti or RX 460 shall provide well, with a 4790k being out of budget for many. Aside from that I agree, your motherboard must have a compatible chipset/socket for your CPU, to which is listed below motherboards nearly always. 

 

Support list for a H81-M-PCI:

Intel Haswell And Haswell Refresh I7/I5/I3/Pentium/Celeron CPU In 1150 Pin.

 

 

Can you recommend a graphic card?Besides the games that i mentioned (overwatch,lol,pubg) i would prefer a graphic card that will not limit me to them.Maybe in a year i will want to try something harder to run.It would be a wastebif i am going to need an upgrade again wouldnt it?

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1 minute ago, its.the.doc said:

Can you recommend a graphic card?Besides the games that i mentioned (overwatch,lol,pubg) i would prefer a graphic card that will not limit me to them.Maybe in a year i will want to try something harder to run.It would be a wastebif i am going to need an upgrade again wouldnt it?

Rx 580 8gb

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51 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

a used i7 4th gen (4770, 4770K, 4790, 4790k~) would be very decent and cost effective (since your Board is fit for those, and you already have 12gb DDR3 Ram).

 

Then an RX 580 8gb as Custom design, or GTX 1060 and you're fine for a while.

Just noticed the word used.Can you explain me why i should purchase a used one?

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Just now, its.the.doc said:

Can you recommend a graphic card?Besides the games that i mentioned (overwatch,lol,pubg) i would prefer a graphic card that will not limit me to them.Maybe in a year i will want to try something harder to run.It would be a wastebif i am going to need an upgrade again wouldnt it?

Get a i7 4770K cpu and an rx 580 8GB or 1060 6gb GPU (Whichever is less expensive) and you will be fine. Make sure to get the K if you want to be able to keep the PC running games for awhile, if not you will end up replacing the CPU and motherboard in a couple of years.

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2 minutes ago, its.the.doc said:

Just noticed the word used.Can you explain me why i should purchase a used one?

No point in buying an old CPU new

in real value a 4770k would cost around 180$ new because it's As good as the 1500x. If you buy one for 300$ you are a fool

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No point in buying an old CPU new

in real value a 4770k would cost around 180$ new because it's As good as the 1500x. If you buy one for 300$ you are a fool

Yes but if its already used,wont it "get destroyed" earlier compared to a new one?

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1 minute ago, its.the.doc said:

Yes but if its already used,wont it "get destroyed" earlier compared to a new one?

No

it sells for 400$ new, you could get a better CPU on a newer platform for cheaper. 

 

The 4770k is about the same as a 1500x, are you willing to pay 400$ for something worth 180$? 

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Fine so an already used i7 4770k cpu and a Rx 580 8gb graphic card.Thats what i can understand in conclusion.Thank you all guys for replying.I really needed this advice. Hope you have a nice day.

No problm. Hope for the best with your new pc! 

 

Make sure you grab a new CPU cooler. I recommend the 212 Evo

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1 hour ago, its.the.doc said:

Yes but if its already used,wont it "get destroyed" earlier compared to a new one?

Would make sense but no. If the CPU wasn't overclocked HARD with too much voltage, this thing will run forever.

CPUs are very durable, especially if there was no hard overclocking.

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2 hours ago, Spenser1337 said:

No problm. Hope for the best with your new pc! 

 

Make sure you grab a new CPU cooler. I recommend the 212 Evo

Do people recommend the 212 Evo because they are so inexpensive? They aren't very good, and there are far better $25-$35 alternatives. The Cryorig H7 comes to mind (Their less expensive version is actually a tad better, but I didn't like the color, it was only a 2c difference under load, and both were quiet as heck).

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