i7 7700K vs AMD RYZEN 7 1700

[CardinalHunter]

^^^^

My primary usage is gaming but I may learn to start editing videos to earn quick bucks. Also would I still need an aftermarket cooler since it comes with an air cooler for the amd chip if I overclock it?

[CardinalHunter]

Also I need a good value oc AM4 board os recommendations are welcomed

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Well if mainly gaming the i7 would be the one. But video editing is better on Ryzen. At the end you have to choose.

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

Well if mainly gaming the i7 would be the one. But video editing is better on Ryzen. At the end you have to choose.

i know that but just wanted as many opinions as I could get also hello fellow malaysian, I'm a malaysian too <3

[Evanair]

8 minutes ago, CardinalHunter said:

I may learn to start editing videos to earn quick bucks

Don't buy a system on the speculation of what you MIGHT do.  In the difference between a 7700k vs a 1700, you really need to look at the bigger picture.  Both are good, but each have trade-offs.  How much do you want to spend on the REST of the hardware? That can make the real difference.

 

 

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

1 minute ago, CardinalHunter said:

i know that but just wanted as many opinions as I could get also hello fellow malaysian, I'm a malaysian too <3

Wahh HALLO. But i7 vs Ryzen 1700 gaming not that BIG of a difference so I think you should go with Ryzen. If u want those extra frames then i7 it is. I would personally go i7. 

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, Evanair said:

Don't buy a system on the speculation of what you MIGHT do.  In the difference between a 7700k vs a 1700, you really need to look at the bigger picture.  Both are good, but each have trade-offs.  How much do you want to spend on the REST of the hardware? That can make the real difference.

 

 

gonna get an msi gtx 1080 ti gaming x so don't really need to worry about the gpu

[Evanair]

1 minute ago, CardinalHunter said:

gonna get an msi gtx 1080 ti gaming x so don't really need to worry about the gpu

Last I checked there is more to a system than CPU and GPU.  Are you planning on overclocking? 7700k has issues with that (what I've read, no experience), If you're not running 2 videocards, you can go with a B350 chipset to save money, but if you want to SERIOUSLY overclock you'll need more money for a x370 (ryzen).  Also take into consideration the ram, depending on how much you want to run, and how Ryzen prefers 2 sticks vs intel's not caring if it's 2 or 4 given 7700k doesn't have quad channel. 

 

If you're on the fence, Intel has an announcement soon anyway... might wait to see what replaces the 7700k.

[SeanAngelo]

26 minutes ago, CardinalHunter said:

^^^^

My primary usage is gaming but I may learn to start editing videos to earn quick bucks. Also would I still need an aftermarket cooler since it comes with an air cooler for the amd chip if I overclock it?

ryzen

[CardinalHunter]

7 minutes ago, Evanair said:

Last I checked there is more to a system than CPU and GPU.  Are you planning on overclocking? 7700k has issues with that (what I've read, no experience), If you're not running 2 videocards, you can go with a B350 chipset to save money, but if you want to SERIOUSLY overclock you'll need more money for a x370 (ryzen).  Also take into consideration the ram, depending on how much you want to run, and how Ryzen prefers 2 sticks vs intel's not caring if it's 2 or 4 given 7700k doesn't have quad channel. 

 

If you're on the fence, Intel has an announcement soon anyway... might wait to see what replaces the 7700k.

huh I mean here's the build I have planned

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($336.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($158.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270F ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($180.60 @ Jet) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sandisk - Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($264.32 @ Jet) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  ($748.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus - VC239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Philips - BDM4350UC/00 42.5" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Mouse: Logitech - G900 CHAOS SPECTRUM Wireless Optical Mouse  ($128.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2677.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-07 06:31 EDT-0400

 

[CardinalHunter]

10 minutes ago, Evanair said:

Last I checked there is more to a system than CPU and GPU.  Are you planning on overclocking? 7700k has issues with that (what I've read, no experience), If you're not running 2 videocards, you can go with a B350 chipset to save money, but if you want to SERIOUSLY overclock you'll need more money for a x370 (ryzen).  Also take into consideration the ram, depending on how much you want to run, and how Ryzen prefers 2 sticks vs intel's not caring if it's 2 or 4 given 7700k doesn't have quad channel. 

 

If you're on the fence, Intel has an announcement soon anyway... might wait to see what replaces the 7700k.

If I get the ryzen 7 1700 I won't need the cooler and that's gonna save me a good bit of money

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

1 minute ago, CardinalHunter said:

huh I mean here's the build I have planned

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($336.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($158.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270F ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($180.60 @ Jet) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sandisk - Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($264.32 @ Jet) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  ($748.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus - VC239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Philips - BDM4350UC/00 42.5" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Mouse: Logitech - G900 CHAOS SPECTRUM Wireless Optical Mouse  ($128.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2677.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-07 06:31 EDT-0400

 

No HDD? Why not just get a 1TB SSD. 

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

2 minutes ago, CardinalHunter said:

-Snip-

Plus there are cheaper 2x8 kits.

[CardinalHunter]

2 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

ryzen

 

12 minutes ago, Evanair said:

Last I checked there is more to a system than CPU and GPU.  Are you planning on overclocking? 7700k has issues with that (what I've read, no experience), If you're not running 2 videocards, you can go with a B350 chipset to save money, but if you want to SERIOUSLY overclock you'll need more money for a x370 (ryzen).  Also take into consideration the ram, depending on how much you want to run, and how Ryzen prefers 2 sticks vs intel's not caring if it's 2 or 4 given 7700k doesn't have quad channel. 

 

If you're on the fence, Intel has an announcement soon anyway... might wait to see what replaces the 7700k.

 

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

No HDD? Why not just get a 1TB SSD. 

Also aren't they optimizing ryzen? I was pretty certain that they would

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

Plus there are cheaper 2x8 kits.

this is a 1/2 no compromise build I've been saving up for about 4 years now currently 15 teehee

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, CardinalHunter said:

this is a 1/2 no compromise build I've been saving up for about 4 years now currently 15 teehee

How much these all cost oh.

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

How much these all cost oh.

near 18k myr

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, CardinalHunter said:

near 18k myr

walau. you got work meh??? 18k 4 years. Right now I personally only have 140 ringgit only. The 2000 in my bank my parents won't let me touch . They say it's for future important use like weddings lmaooo

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

walau. you got work meh??? 18k 4 years. Right now I personally only have 140 ringgit only. The 2000 in my bank my parents won't let me touch . They say it's for future important use like weddings lmaooo

2k 4 wedding ain't gonna do fuckall not even going into college funds lol the 2k should just be emergency funds also I haven't gotten a birthday present in like 3 years now so they stack it on top

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, CardinalHunter said:

2k 4 wedding ain't gonna do fuckall not even going into college funds lol the 2k should just be emergency funds also I haven't gotten a birthday present in like 3 years now so they stack it on top

But to be honest la my family memang poor-ish one. The only computers I have at home are office computers. Cannot play game one. i can just add in like a 550Ti and call it a day but even now they selling for about 150-180 and that's all the money I have.

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

But to be honest la my family memang poor-ish one. The only computers I have at home are office computers. Cannot play game one. i can just add in like a 550Ti and call it a day but even now they selling for about 150-180 and that's all the money I have.

ha same I'm on me dad's laptop he bought six/seven years back

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, CardinalHunter said:

ha same I'm on me dad's laptop he bought six/seven years back

wah. My laptop already broken. The guy say got water get inside and damage motherboard. But just for checking the laptop the guy charge like 200 or something 

[CardinalHunter]

 

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

wah. My laptop already broken. The guy say got water get inside and damage motherboard. But just for checking the laptop the guy charge like 200 or something 

u probably coulda checked it yourself lol also don't use malaysian slangs when chatting to me mostly cuz I don't understand them despite being malaysian especially ones with malay language I fucking get u grades for them so I don't take them in IGCSE

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, CardinalHunter said:

 

u probably coulda checked it yourself lol also don't use malaysian slangs when chatting to me mostly cuz I don't understand them despite being malaysian especially ones with malay language I fucking get u grades for them so I don't take them in IGCSE

I almost fail malay for ujian 1 this year.

[Phentos]

Having had a 7700K recently, I was not that impressed with its performance. Keep in mind that I don't do 144hz+ gaming, and I'm on 2560x1080 resolution and planning on moving up to 4K soon-ish. So for my chosen usage scenario, a 7700K isn't really the optimal choice. Once the novelty of a 5 Ghz overclock wore off, I was like meh.

 

Fortunately I have a friend who was about to do a new build with his shiny new 165hz monitor, so I passed off my delidded 7700K and Maximus Hero motherboard to him for a profit. He'll get much more use out of that 7700K than me.

 

I also do a lot of work on my PC, so the extra cores with Ryzen really were a welcome addition. 

 

Basically you need to ask yourself if you care about 144hz+ gaming at sub-1440p resolutions. If you do, or plan on doing this, then the 7700K is hands down the best choice. However if you want to go with higher resolution, or don't care about 144hz+, then either one will serve you well.