i7 7700K vs AMD RYZEN 7 1700

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

I almost fail malay for ujian 1 this year.

I just keep joking to my teachers about getting an F for malay language and it's become a running gag at this point despite me getting B/A/A* in other subjects like add math bio and stuf like that

[crzyces]

5 minutes ago, Evanair said:

Last I checked there is more to a system than CPU and GPU.  Are you planning on overclocking? 7700k has issues with that (what I've read, no experience), If you're not running 2 videocards, you can go with a B350 chipset to save money, but if you want to SERIOUSLY overclock you'll need more money for a x370 (ryzen).  Also take into consideration the ram, depending on how much you want to run, and how Ryzen prefers 2 sticks vs intel's not caring if it's 2 or 4 given 7700k doesn't have quad channel. 

 

If you're on the fence, Intel has an announcement soon anyway... might wait to see what replaces the 7700k.

Intel 7700k's render fine if you aren't gaming at the same time. If you are, then they even out. If you are rendering, gaming, and uploading, then Ryzen pulls ahead.

 

As for the overclocks, AMD stil needs to straighten it out. THEY have gotten the cards at what, 6.3 nitro'd? It's obvious that none of us are gaming with our cpu in a tank, but 3.9-4.1 being the absolute best people are getting on 1600-1800x on both the 350 and 370 (with no noticeable difference between boards), well, as the commercial says, they still have a lot of "Room to Grow".

 

I'd still go Ryzen just for the potential of the chip and the multi tasking capabilities it currently has. Gaming wise, I'd be buying on speculation that it can "come close" to Intel's "Big 6" (7700k, 6700k, 7600k, 4790k, 6850k, 6600K (Yeah, an i5 at the end there.)

[CardinalHunter]

1 minute ago, Phentos said:

Having had a 7700K recently, I was not that impressed with its performance. Keep in mind that I don't do 144hz+ gaming, and I'm on 2560x1080 resolution and planning on moving up to 4K soon-ish. So for my chosen usage scenario, a 7700K isn't really the optimal choice. Once the novelty of a 5 Ghz overclock wore off, I was like meh.

 

Fortunately I have a friend who was about to do a new build with his shiny new 165hz monitor, so I passed off my delidded 7700K and Maximus Hero motherboard to him for a profit. He'll get much more use out of that 7700K than me.

 

I also do a lot of work on my PC, so the extra cores with Ryzen really were a welcome addition. 

 

Basically you need to ask yourself if you care about 144hz+ gaming at sub-1440p resolutions. If you do, or plan on doing this, then the 7700K is hands down the best choice. However if you want to go with higher resolution, or don't care about 144hz+, then either one will serve you well.  

nah I'm doing 4k 

[Phentos]

Just now, CardinalHunter said:

nah I'm doing 4k 

Ryzen.

[CardinalHunter]

Just now, Phentos said:

Ryzen.

yeah now I just need a good mobo to go with it cuz I can save a good bit on a cooler since I'm going with a 1700

[Phentos]

Just now, CardinalHunter said:

yeah now I just need a good mobo to go with it cuz I can save a good bit on a cooler since I'm going with a 1700

My motherboard in my sig is a good choice. Dual BIOS, external BCLK generator, and nice tasteful RGB elements are big plusses.

 

Good alternatives are the ASUS C6H or the ASrock Taichi. If you want B350, then the Asus Prime B350 or MSI Tomahawk boards are the best choices.

[CardinalHunter]

20 minutes ago, Phentos said:

My motherboard in my sig is a good choice. Dual BIOS, external BCLK generator, and nice tasteful RGB elements are big plusses.

 

Good alternatives are the ASUS C6H or the ASrock Taichi. If you want B350, then the Asus Prime B350 or MSI Tomahawk boards are the best choices.

 

24 minutes ago, crzyces said:

Intel 7700k's render fine if you aren't gaming at the same time. If you are, then they even out. If you are rendering, gaming, and uploading, then Ryzen pulls ahead.

 

As for the overclocks, AMD stil needs to straighten it out. THEY have gotten the cards at what, 6.3 nitro'd? It's obvious that none of us are gaming with our cpu in a tank, but 3.9-4.1 being the absolute best people are getting on 1600-1800x on both the 350 and 370 (with no noticeable difference between boards), well, as the commercial says, they still have a lot of "Room to Grow".

 

I'd still go Ryzen just for the potential of the chip and the multi tasking capabilities it currently has. Gaming wise, I'd be buying on speculation that it can "come close" to Intel's "Big 6" (7700k, 6700k, 7600k, 4790k, 6850k, 6600K (Yeah, an i5 at the end there.)

 

1 hour ago, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

Well if mainly gaming the i7 would be the one. But video editing is better on Ryzen. At the end you have to choose.

 

1 hour ago, Evanair said:

Don't buy a system on the speculation of what you MIGHT do.  In the difference between a 7700k vs a 1700, you really need to look at the bigger picture.  Both are good, but each have trade-offs.  How much do you want to spend on the REST of the hardware? That can make the real difference.

 

 

 

47 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

ryzen

so how does this build look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($313.93 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.29 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($180.60 @ Jet) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sandisk - Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($264.32 @ Jet) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  ($748.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair - 780T ATX Full Tower Case  ($145.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus - VC239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Philips - BDM4350UC/00 42.5" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Mouse: Logitech - G900 CHAOS SPECTRUM Wireless Optical Mouse  ($128.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2459.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Phentos]

 

11 hours ago, CardinalHunter said:

Build

Looks like a very solid build

[Untitled]

15 hours ago, CardinalHunter said:

 

so how does this build look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($313.93 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.29 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($180.60 @ Jet) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sandisk - Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($264.32 @ Jet) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  ($748.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair - 780T ATX Full Tower Case  ($145.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus - VC239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Philips - BDM4350UC/00 42.5" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Mouse: Logitech - G900 CHAOS SPECTRUM Wireless Optical Mouse  ($128.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2459.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I strongly disagree to use this spec for 1080p gaming @ 60hz because that's gonna be huge bottleneck.  and I also disagree to play game on 4K TV due to high input lag. (unless you are casual gamer and you don't care)

I would recommend at least get proper 1440p / 4K monitor, or 144Hz monitor. so your 1080Ti can work at full potential.

[Guest Darth Revan]

Go for Intel, way more stability and better performance in the long run.

Yes, an AMD system may be cheaper and it comes with the promise of maybe just maybe it will perform a lot better than Intel, but that's a big maybe and it comes with issues.

[killcomic]

If you overclock, then the 7700k suffers from very poor thermals. People had it going to 90c with stock settings, on top of that, Intel refuses to acknowledge the problem and has recommended not to overclock (despite advertising it as an overclocker chip).

Get Ryzen, it will play well and smash it in video editing. It may not OC very well, but at least you know it's not gimped because of poor manufacturing practices.

[Simon771]

I went from i7 4790k to Ryzen 1700 and I didn't notice any FPS drops.

But I do play at 1440p at 75fps with 75Hz monitor.

Now I get less FPS dips than usuall, but that could be because it's fresh installed windows.

 

Still waiting for my case and Dark Rock 3 cooler, to finalise my build.

[CardinalHunter]

6 hours ago, Untitled said:

 

I strongly disagree to use this spec for 1080p gaming @ 60hz because that's gonna be huge bottleneck.  and I also disagree to play game on 4K TV due to high input lag. (unless you are casual gamer and you don't care)

I would recommend at least get proper 1440p / 4K monitor, or 144Hz monitor. so your 1080Ti can work at full potential.

ya know the lag problem can be fixed if you turned off some of the settings (I don't remember which ones) 

[SeanAngelo]

23 hours ago, CardinalHunter said:

 

 

 

 

so how does this build look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($313.93 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.29 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($180.60 @ Jet) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sandisk - Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($264.32 @ Jet) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  ($748.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair - 780T ATX Full Tower Case  ($145.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus - VC239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Philips - BDM4350UC/00 42.5" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Mouse: Logitech - G900 CHAOS SPECTRUM Wireless Optical Mouse  ($128.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2459.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-07 07:19 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($336.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z270 MARK 2 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($131.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.45 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($768.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus - ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($615.75 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2559.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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