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Used AIO?

Would you buy a used AIO from the direct manufacturer if it was $30 less than a new one?

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Would you buy a used AIO from the direct manufacturer if it was $30 less than a new one?

I wouldn't risk it unless theres a 100% hardware guarantee(If it breaks and kills everything they'll replace it)

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1 minute ago, Jrock said:

I wouldn't risk it unless theres a 100% hardware guarantee(If it breaks and kills everything they'll replace it)

 

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

if it had warranty yes.  

It has a 6 month warranty 

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

 

It has a 6 month warranty 

Just buy a new one.

 

It could pass all tests, but just barley and fail on you in 3 months killing everything, over what? $30???

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I'm still wondering if AIO's are worth it. I mean Noctua NH-D15 outperforms most of them and is much much quieter. 

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6 minutes ago, Jrock said:

Just buy a new one.

 

It could pass all tests, but just barley and fail on you in 3 months killing everything, over what? $30???

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1 minute ago, Yoola said:

I'm still wondering if AIO's are worth it. I mean Noctua NH-D15 outperforms most of them and is much much quieter. 

I would say otherwise. Maybe some AIOs but there is a solid 10C difference between it and hte H100i

 

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

I would say otherwise. Maybe some AIOs but there is a solid 10C difference between it and hte H100i

 

 

You can also go to the airport and you wouldn't feel a difference between a plane taking off and that AIO on max fan speed. 

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4 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I would say otherwise. Maybe some AIOs but there is a solid 10C difference between it and hte H100i

 

Also how trusty is even that benchmark graph? Here's one from Guru3D.

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6 minutes ago, Yoola said:

Also how trusty is even that benchmark graph? Here's one from Guru3D.

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Different cpus, different ambient temps, and different thermal past. Too many variables but water is much better at exchanging heat. It's also very good at retaining heat too. I know for one with the NH-D15 I would have clearance issues. 

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Different cpus, different ambient temps, and different thermal past. Too many variables but water is much better at exchanging heat. It's also very good at retaining heat too. I know for one with the NH-D15 I would have clearance issues. 

I've been also considering AIO but when you take in account risk of water being inside your PC (especially when you have closed panel) and the noise it makes just for marginal (sometimes not even that) difference...

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None of the testers out there (for some reason unbeknownst to me) properly test CPU coolers. everyone does it a little differently. nobody tracks acoustics/RPM's. everyone just uses some default fan curve or some built in metric. There will come a day when reviewers get their heads out of their ass and compare CPU coolers in the ONLY TWO metrics that matter: Acoustics, and performance. That's it. those are the only two things that matter. So the way you tell if one CPU cooler is better than another is to have them run at the SAME acoustic level, and then see where the temperatures land. thats it. thats the ONLY fair way to compare one CPU cooler to the next. you could strap some 2400 RPM EK-Vardars to a water cooler and "claim" that its just too loud to use no matter how much better it performs than an air cooler which has 800 RPM fans. anyone who does not compare coolers in this way (which for some reason appears to be everyone) invalidates their own tests, and is probably trying to skew you in favor of one cooler or another (or one cooler type or another) due to their own personal bias.

 

31 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Would you buy a used AIO from the direct manufacturer if it was $30 less than a new one?

no. AIO's have a very finite lifespan due to their pumps. no matter how much less expensive it is, if its not new off the shelf it could very well fail in the very near future. even if its in great condition, you have no way of knowing how much it has been used, nor how much of its life it has left. Unless you could get it for a steal I would avoid it like the plague.

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9 minutes ago, Yoola said:

I've been also considering AIO but when you take in account risk of water being inside your PC (especially when you have closed panel) and the noise it makes just for marginal (sometimes not even that) difference...

I only use AIOs and have never had an issue. Just go with Corsair if you are worried, they will cover any damage done if it leaks. I have also only heard of AIOs leaking that were or poor quality or a user really bent the tubes and caused it to leak

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