Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme VS Gigabyte AORUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition Power Phases?

[TheNaitsyrk]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

Then I'd try to get the best available MSI card as their customer support is almost as good as EVGAs. People are generally unhappy in that regard with both ASUS and Gigabyte.

I'd look for the MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X. It has a beefier, enhanced variant of the (excellent) Twin Frozr VI cooler with customizable RGB LEDs on it.

Nope, I dealt with Gigabyte before with my GA-Z87X OC FORCE mobo and the customer support was excellent. They covered costs of transport and everything.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

25 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I've only seen review for both of these, so I'll stick to either ZOTAC or Gigabyte one. This doesn't answer my question at all, it's like you answered someone else's question on my thread.

 

Hmmm okay....

 

Well since your thread is about power phases on these 2 cards. There really isn't much difference between these 2 really in terms of whatever you can do on air. And your concern is the vrm on the 2 cards. 

 

I mentioned the Strix since that and the Aorus has already had a board analysis on youtube. Strix uses higher quality IR mosfets compared to what GB, Msi and Zotac(IF its the same as the 1080) uses.

 

Most of the time you know shit is done well when you see IR. And power phases count don't matter much since nearly everyone uses the nvidia specified voltage controller which is a max of 8 phases. So that 16 phase really is only a doubled 8 phase. But really, nothing is gonna disappoint you.

[Morgan MLGman]

2 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Nope, I dealt with Gigabyte before with my GA-Z87X OC FORCE mobo and the customer support was excellent. They covered costs of transport and everything.

That depends on your luck, customer support in every country varies even if it's the same manufacturer. I'm talking about a general opinion.

 

Still, I highly suggest you check out MSI's variant of the card.

[TheNaitsyrk]

5 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

That depends on your luck, customer support in every country varies even if it's the same manufacturer. I'm talking about a general opinion.

 

Still, I highly suggest you check out MSI's variant of the card.

These are the only available ones. Few more are there including the AORUS one but obviously not released.

[Morgan MLGman]

Eh, the MSI one is the good one. But it says "This item has not yet been released."...

It's also cheaper than the STRIX one so I'd personally just wait for it or the EVGA iCX 3.0 FTW one to be available.

[TheNaitsyrk]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

Eh, the MSI one is the good one. But it says "This item has not yet been released."...

It's also cheaper than the STRIX one so I'd personally just wait for it or the EVGA iCX 3.0 FTW one to be available.

EVGA one will NEVER be available on Amazon and I need to work on my assignments at University so I can't wait any longer. I waited since July last year.

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9 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

EVGA one will NEVER be available on Amazon and I need to work on my assignments at University so I can't wait any longer. I waited since July last year.

Go with MSI Gaming X

Clock speed and fan speed: 

Clock speed and fan speed:

[TheNaitsyrk]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Go with MSI Gaming X

Clock speed and fan speed: 

Clock speed and fan speed:

I can literally do the same thing: 

 

By the way, three reviewers: OC3D, TechCity and (not really known dude Vortez) said that Gigabyte one are Cherrypicked so yah.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I can literally do the same thing: 

 

By the way, three reviewers: OC3D, TechCity and (not really known dude Vortez) said that Gigabyte one are Cherrypicked so yah.

 

 

exactly

[TheNaitsyrk]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

exactly

Post some more graphs on all of the 1080 ti's, if you have them.

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Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

Post some more graphs on all of the 1080 ti's, if you have them.

Here is the reference card

[TheNaitsyrk]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Here is the reference card

Reference is obviously crap, I was hoping you had the AMP EXTREME graph. Btw, results are the OC or stock?

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Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

Reference is obviously crap, I was hoping you had the AMP EXTREME graph. Btw, results are the OC or stock?

No graph, but tweaktown says they reach 67 max

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8140/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-amp-extreme-edition-review/index12.html

 

Check what the usual core clock and memory clock is and compare the results. I believe they were done at stock

[Spuriae]

1 hour ago, Pohernori said:

And power phases count don't matter much since nearly everyone uses the nvidia specified voltage controller which is a max of 8 phases. So that 16 phase really is only a doubled 8 phase. But really, nothing is gonna disappoint you.

Well...true phases deviate significantly (3 vs 5 vs 8), so phase count still matters; they're just not as high as stated on the box.

 

MSI is also using an NCP81274 controller, which has double the frequency of the standard uP9511P.

[Brooksie359]

27 minutes ago, Nimrodor said:

Well...true phases deviate significantly (3 vs 5 vs 8), so phase count still matters; they're just not as high as stated on the box.

 

MSI is also using an NCP81274 controller, which has double the frequency of the standard uP9511P.

Yeah phase count matters but when all the companies put on the side of the box that they have 12 to 16 phases and you have no idea the quality of those phases it begins to seem like nothing can be determined by the advertised phase count meaning phase count doesn't matter in this specific senerio 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

27 minutes ago, Nimrodor said:

Well...true phases deviate significantly (3 vs 5 vs 8), so phase count still matters; they're just not as high as stated on the box.

 

MSI is also using an NCP81274 controller, which has double the frequency of the standard uP9511P.

 

Yes the amount of true phases you have is pretty important and so are the components used. Msi uses 2 integrated mosfets for each of the 8 true phases they have but as stated by buildzoid in the video its capabilities don't really exceed that of the FE cards. 

 

The strix would only have 5 true phases which would be doubled to 10. 

[Spuriae]

21 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

Yes the amount of true phases you have is pretty important and so are the components used. Msi uses 2 integrated mosfets for each of the 8 true phases they have but as stated by buildzoid in the video its capabilities don't really exceed that of the FE cards. 

 

The strix would only have 5 true phases which would be doubled to 10. 

It's comparable to the FE in max current (and 400A@125C is already glorious overkill for a card that runs around 250A stock in furmark). For power cleanliness it's easily the best unless Zotac uses a nonstandard PWM controller.

 

On top of that, there are other effects such as VRM cooling (if you liquid cool the VRM, it can output much higher, buildzoid said 700A continuous, which I think is optimistic given the VRM efficiency). Also consider that by definition pulsed circuits are not continuous; actual max currents should be higher than the continuous number.