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jjohnthedon1
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hey guys im in th market for a new mobo cpu as it were

i do mostly gaming but want somthing that will age well

 

i feel 8 cores will last longer than 4 and that ryzen isnt far behind the intel chips as far as gaming goes 
thoughts 

 

also the 1700 instead of the 1800x because they both oc to 4 ghz and perform the same ?

 

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Do you need to upgrade though? You have a 4790k, after all. 

 

A 7700k definitely wouldn't be worth the upgrade IMO and ATM going Ryzen wouldn't be worth it unless you currently need the cores.

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5 minutes ago, bakidota said:

when u have 4790k why even bother lol?

 

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Do you need to upgrade though? You have a 4790k, after all. 

 

A 7700k definitely wouldn't be worth the upgrade IMO and ATM going Ryzen wouldn't be worth it unless you currently need the cores.

well either my cpu or board is dead and if its not the board then il be upgrading

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1 minute ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

 

well either my cpu or board is dead and if its not the board then il be upgrading

It wasn't RAM? :(

 

I guess it depends a lot on how long you wanna keep the CPU. If 2 or 3 years 7700k. If not probably a 1700. 

 

Do you do anything other than gaming though?

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Well, the 7700k performs better in games in most cases, but games have had very little, if any, optimization for Ryzen. If I was in the market right now I'd go with the 1700 though because I feel that by the end of the year Ryzen will have the major kinks worked out and the gap will close

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8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

It wasn't RAM? :(

 

I guess it depends a lot on how long you wanna keep the CPU. If 2 or 3 years 7700k. If not probably a 1700. 

 

Do you do anything other than gaming though?

No it wasn't ram, but my chip worked I. Another board but then I kind of dropped it and broke off some vrms on the top of the die which the guy thinks he can fix

so waiting to hear back :/ 

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Just now, Cyracus said:

Well, the 7700k performs better in games in most cases, but games have had very little, if any, optimization for Ryzen. If I was in the market right now I'd go with the 1700 though because I feel that by the end of the year Ryzen will have the major kinks worked out and the gap will close

Do you think ryzen will age better then ? 

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h110 pull - acer xb270hu 1440p -

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6 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Do you think ryzen will age better then ? 

Intel's whole platform is mature, they've released incremental upgrades on their platform line for years. Ryzen is a new platform thats improving regularly for now, and developers are getting their hands on it and learning to optimize code for it. So yeah, I think Ryzen will age much better, even if it doesn't outperform the 7700k everywhere

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1 minute ago, Cyracus said:

Intel's whole platform is mature, they've released incremental upgrades on their platform line for years. Ryzen is a new platform thats improving regularly for now, and developers are getting their hands on it and learning to optimize code for it. So yeah, I think Ryzen will age much better, even if it doesn't outperform the 7700k everywhere

hopefullyif i go ryzen then if will last me 4 years at least for gaming

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h110 pull - acer xb270hu 1440p -

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2 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

hopefullyif i go ryzen then if will last me 4 years at least for gaming

Well word is that AMD has committed to keep the chipset until at least 2020 from what I've heard so unless Intel sticks to lga-1150 Ryzen will have more upgrade options too

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Just now, Cyracus said:

Well word is that AMD has committed to keep the chipset until at least 2020 from what I've heard so unless Intel sticks to lga-1150 Ryzen will have more upgrade options too

sounds good to me 

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MSI 980ti G6 1506mhz slix2 -

h110 pull - acer xb270hu 1440p -

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