new Ultimate PC ??? Feedback

[Dimitry_3]

so this is what I got so far:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JdGrhq

 

I wanna see if it has any problems like:

compatibility, bottle neck and some other

stuff like that.

 

Also I wanna ask what is it capable of and if 

it would last for 5 or 6 years.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Dimitry_3 said:

it would last for 5 or 6 years.

If you want to lower your games settings, yes.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Dimitry_3 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JdGrhq

Why not upgrade to a Ryzen 5 1600 (non X)? It has 6 cores and it is not much more expensive...

[Megah3rtz]

7 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Why not upgrade to a Ryzen 5 1600 (non X)? It has 6 cores and it is not much more expensive...

R5 1500X is the only with a stock cooler afaik 

[tom_w141]

8 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Why not upgrade to a Ryzen 5 1600 (non X)? It has 6 cores and it is not much more expensive...

Couldn't agree more, a quad core in 2017 is not a 5-6 year investment. Absolutely spend the little extra here.

[tom_w141]

5 minutes ago, Megah3rtz said:

R5 1500X is the only with a stock cooler afaik 

Only the 1600X is supplied without a cooler.

 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Only the 1600X is supplied without a cooler.

Makes sense to me. If you buy a 1600X, you are probably going to overclock, so a stock cooler would be useless

[Bananasplit_00]

i was 100% expecting this to be another one of those stupid "oh look if you have 50k you can get two 22 core  Xeons and quad SLI 1080s hur dur"

 

anyway this is a pretty decent build, should do you good for 1080p

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Makes sense to me. If you buy a 1600X, you are probably going to overclock, so a stock cooler would be useless

Well they supply the RGB version of the spire with the 1700 and im pretty sure they anticipated us overclocking the 1700s  I think its more to do with the 1600X has a higher factory clock and therefore a higher stock voltage and will run hotter at stock. So they force you to buy a cooler to be safe.

 

EDIT: Obviously I can't speak for the stealth only the spire

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Abyssal Radon said:

Is the Wraith cooler even good?

 

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

Is the Wraith cooler even good? Chances are it's a cooler that just gets the job done. A aftermarket cooler is a good purchase, a Hyperevo 212 would probably perform better.

Actually it performs about the same as budget air cooler like the 212 evo. Great cooler considering it was "free" I used mine while awaiting a bracket and got an 800MHz overclock with it so not bad.

 

EDIT: I found it to be comfortable cooling up to 1.3V vcore

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

 I think its more to do with the 1600X has a higher factory clock and therefore a higher stock voltage and will run hotter at stock. So they force you to buy a cooler to be safe.

Probably... After all, the 1700 is (theoretically) a 65W TDP CPU and the 1600X is a 95W TDP

[tom_w141]

Just now, Abyssal Radon said:

That's awesome with a stock cooler. 

Yeah also the RGB was really sharp on the defined rim I liked it a lot. Almost a shame to box it back up  

[Damascus]

3 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

Hyperevo 212

Don't get a hyper 212 evo, there are so m any good alternatives.  Besides, the included wraith coolers are on par or better than a 212.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hyQRsY/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-351-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk008

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LPVBD3/cryorig-cpu-cooler-m9i

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jK8H99/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h5universal

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vcrcCJ/cooler-master-masterair-pro-4-667-cfm-cpu-cooler-may-t4pn-220pk-r1

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cwPzK8/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk009

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gqp323/cryorig-cpu-cooler-m9a

 

All these and soooo many more

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

That's awesome with a stock cooler. 

The funniest part is my friend bought an 1800X at the same time but couldnt use it for weeks because it came with no cooler (also awaiting bracket).

 

Also my 1700 being clocked above his 1800X also bothers him  

 

EDIT: Because he doesn't like to oc and hasn't done it before not because his chip sucks

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

 

Also my 1700 being clocked above his 1800X also bothers him  

 

EDIT: Because he doesn't like to oc and hasn't done it before not because his chip sucks

1700 + OC = value

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Also my 1700 being clocked above his 1800X also bothers him  

Not surprised that the 1700 clocks just as high/higher 

 

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Not surprised that the 1700 clocks just as high/higher 

 

Not seen this particular video but i did a lot of research before buying so yeah i know the ins and outs of the R7. Its a case of good guy AMD making all ryzen cpus unlocked. Intel i7s are binned and clocked in the same way, however by only unlocking the k series they don't compete with each other. So good for me/consumers but probably not so good for sales - unless they react by heavily binning but that would be a douche move when you are trying to gain market share again...

 

EDIT: To be honest I can see places for the 1700 and the 1800X but the 1700X baffles me:

 

1700 is price to performance and a gem for the overclockers

 

1800X is factory clocked at guranteed speeds for a novice fit and forget scenario (like my friend)

 

But the 1700X seems to have no place

[Damascus]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

gain market share again...

I think they just want to move units as much as possible.  Plus, making only one chip must be less expensive than having a different architecture for each chip like intel does

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

I think they just want to move units as much as possible.  Plus, making only one chip must be less expensive than having a different architecture for each chip like intel does

Intel is the same. All kabylakes start with the potential to be 7700ks then they are core disabled/flashed and hyperthreading disabled/enabled. The difference is the intel's are locked apart from the K series.

 

For example if X meant unlocked then suddenly it'd be a different story

[Damascus]

9 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Intel is the same. All kabylakes start with the potential to be 7700ks then they are core disabled/flashed and hyperthreading disabled/enabled. The difference is the intel's are locked apart from the K series.

 

Huh.  That sucks.  Hopefully Intel gimping their chips ends with RYZEN

[tom_w141]

8 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Huh.  That sucks.  Hopefully Intel gimping their chips ends with RYZEN

Ryzen is sort of similar R7s R5s and R3s all start as 8 core R7s then cores are disabled to make the lower tiers.

 

The best thing about ryzen is they are all unlocked.

[Damascus]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Ryzen is sort of similar R7s R5s and R3s all start as 8 core R7s then cores are disabled to make the lower tiers.

My  understanding was that R5 and R3 are chips with dead cores that are then trimmed to an even number.  For example a 1600 would have one dead core initially and the it would have one core de-activated for a total of six cores.  Forget where I heard it, maybe wan show or epic tech?  Not sure...