First build recommendations?

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, elfnp2 said:

i just think its wasted money and im unfamiliar with the xeon line

it's not wasted money at all, an i7 will provide much less fps drops and stuttering compared to an i5 and won't bottleneck any gpu while the i5 is already struggling with a gtx 1070 at 1080p. xeon E3s are mostly just i5/i7s with a few extra features like ecc memory support, etc.

[GenericPNP]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kypJV might have to change out graphics card 

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, elfnp2 said:

what makes the 7600 better over the 7500

100mhz faster for $20 more. not really worth buying, you won't notice the 100mhz difference.

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 minutes ago, elfnp2 said:

i just think its wasted money and im unfamiliar with the xeon line

the 1231 v3 isn't in here but the 4790k is almost the same. the haswell and broadwell i7s all beat the i5 6600/7600k while the 3770k has higher minimum fps and lower averages.

[elfnp2]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

the 1231 v3 isn't in here but the 4790k is almost the same. the haswell and broadwell i7s all beat the i5 6600/7600k while the 3770k has higher minimum fps and lower averages.

its $50 more it better be better

[BluJay614]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHKHLD

If you don't mind going a little higher on your budget, this wouldn't be bad.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Treedubz said:

Still think he would be better off with an i5 7600 or even 6600 and a b/h150 board.

 

9 minutes ago, elfnp2 said:

i just think its wasted money and im unfamiliar with the xeon line

 

 

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, elfnp2 said:

its $50 more it better be better

and it is much better than the i5, and would last much longer without bottlenecking the gpu. 

[STRMfrmXMN]

7 hours ago, Treedubz said:

Still think he would be better off with an i5 7600 or even 6600 and a b/h150 board.

Nope. Most games need an i7 to be played smoothly at 144 Hz and the difference in everyday tasks is actually fairly noticable between them. Note this is coming from someone who has had a Pentium, i3, i5 and i7 in my system. The difference between the i5 and i7 was the biggest jump, surprisingly enough.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, BluJay614 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHKHLD

If you don't mind going a little higher on your budget, this wouldn't be bad.

Why a z270 btw? i5 is locked

[elfnp2]

18 minutes ago, Treedubz said:

If I were you, I would definitely consider spending a little extra and getting an i5 6600, or 6600k if you plan on getting a z170 or z270 board down the line.  Also, love the white color scheme you seemed to have planned out, I'm also rocking a white setup.

Thanks! i don't think i would need it down the line but i'm the one asking for advice lol. What makes the z270 better?

[BluJay614]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Why a z270 btw? i5 is locked

Cheap and has onboard wifi without shrinking down to itx, Plus, if he decides to bump it up to a 6600k or 7600k, he can use the same motherboard

[BluJay614]

1 minute ago, BluJay614 said:

Cheap and has onboard wifi without shrinking down to itx, Plus, if he decides to bump it up to a 6600k or 7600k, he can use the same motherboard

Though itx wouldn't be bad either if that's what he wants

[elfnp2]

3 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Nope. Most games need an i7 to be played smoothly at 144 Hz and the difference in everyday tasks is actually fairly noticable between them. Note this is coming from someone who has had a Pentium, i3, i5 and i7 in my system. The difference between the i5 and i7 was the biggest jump, surprisingly enough.

we all know what's better, but unless you're buying i think what i have is a good value with everything and some accessories all for $900

[Guest]

1 minute ago, BluJay614 said:

Cheap and has onboard wifi without shrinking down to itx, Plus, if he decides to bump it up to a 6600k or 7600k, he can use the same motherboard

I mean he could save money and get a separate pcie wifi card and cheaper mobo. Most cards are quite decent 

[M.A.P]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zsCmKZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zsCmKZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($293.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB NITRO Video Card  ($265.91 @ Jet) 
Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.90 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Redragon S101 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $915.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-25 01:17 EDT-0400

 

Spend 30$ to get Windows. You can upgrade to Kaby lake in future if you want to.

[vanished]

@elfnp2 I've merged your 3 threads as they were all the exact same question.  Please do not repost the same question again.

[Herman Mcpootis]

11 minutes ago, BluJay614 said:

Cheap and has onboard wifi without shrinking down to itx, Plus, if he decides to bump it up to a 6600k or 7600k, he can use the same motherboard

a cheap h110 motherboard and pci-e wireless adaptor would have done just as well and far cheaper.

[Treedubz]

3 hours ago, elfnp2 said:

Thanks! i don't think i would need it down the line but i'm the one asking for advice lol. What makes the z270 better?

What makes it better than the Z170? Basically just a couple of features.  But if you're talking about why is it better than a b250 or h270, the Z270 and Z170 boards allow you to overclock your cpu if it is a "K" skew.

 

[elfnp2]

3 minutes ago, Treedubz said:

What makes it better than the Z170? Basically just a couple of features.  But if you're talking about why is it better than a b250 or h270, the Z270 and Z170 boards allow you to overclock your cpu if it is a "K" skew.

 

i am aware of that but i don't really plan on upgrading every year and mobos are cheap enough to swap out

[Treedubz]

3 hours ago, BluJay614 said:

Cheap and has onboard wifi without shrinking down to itx, Plus, if he decides to bump it up to a 6600k or 7600k, he can use the same motherboard

 

3 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

a cheap h110 motherboard and pci-e wireless adaptor would have done just as well and far cheaper.

Could even be better if he picks right.  I have been using my http://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxrcCJ/tp-link-wireless-network-card-archert9e for a while and I get about 4.5 MB/s download from a different floor of the house with thick walls and floors, whereas I used to get around 1-1.5 with a prebuilt I had that used an onboard wireless card.  I also have another system right next to it which uses this card: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Chh9TW/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn881nd , which is much cheaper, easier to hide, and I get around 3 MB/s download.

[Aereldor]

45 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

what i'd recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 1TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB NITRO Video Card  ($265.91 @ Jet) 
Case: DIYPC DIY-J21-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.97 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.90 @ B&H) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($30.00) 
Keyboard: Redragon S101 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $899.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-25 00:43 EDT-0400

I would advise against recommending purchasing a Xeon e3 1231-v3 chip for retail prices. That chip is three generations behind what's currently available, and will probably get completely wrecked by a Core i5 7600.

Don't recommend Haswell parts at retail prices.

[elfnp2]

1 minute ago, Treedubz said:

 

Could even be better if he picks right.  I have been using my http://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxrcCJ/tp-link-wireless-network-card-archert9e for a while and I get about 4.5 MB/s download from a different floor of the house with thick walls and floors, whereas I used to get around 1-1.5 with a prebuilt I had that used an onboard wireless card.  I also have another system right next to it which uses this card: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Chh9TW/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn881nd , which is much cheaper, easier to hide, and I get around 3 MB/s download.

i will rarely use wifi which is why i went cheap on it.

[Treedubz]

3 hours ago, elfnp2 said:

i will rarely use wifi which is why i went cheap on it.

Just saying if you went with that second one you would get much better speeds because pci-e cards are generally faster than USB ones, and also Panda is not a trusted brand and looks like some kind of Chinese knockoff.

[Aereldor]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($287.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: *MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($65.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($52.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($374.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: *Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.35 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.89 @ B&H) 
Other: Windows 10 OEM Key (Kinguin) ($30.00)
Total: $972.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-25 02:00 EDT-0400

This costs the same as your build when you factor in the price of the XFX RX 480 GTR. It also beats the snot out of it when it comes to performance.