Ultra long range LAN

[Guest]

I have discovered 802.22 wran, and I had been looking for something like this for a very long time. But I don't know how it works or anything. I also looked into making a 3g network but no one has done this yet. so basically i am looking into making a "internet transferrer" that brings my internet from home about max. 10 miles away. problem number 1 are the buildings, there is reasonable line of sight through the railway, but there are some buildings. it's nearly on the same elevation though. problem number 2 the receiver has to fit in my pocket (maybe my backpack if <-- is impossible). I have searched and searched for ages but I was not able to find anything. do any of you know what to do?

[Mira Yurizaki]

That's probably your best bet at this.

 

I don't think there's anything pocket sized. Besides, I would find that infeasible due to the requirement that the radio transmitter has to be directional and that a 10 miles away, it'd be tougher to aim and get a good signal.

[WkdPaul]

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[Donut417]

Like stated above, the Ubiquity solution is the best bet. The big issue you have to relies is the airwaves are very heavily regulated. The reason why Cellular data has range is mostly due to the elevation most transmitters are at and the fact they can pump a shit load of power out of them. But in order to use some of the Wireless spectrum you need to have an FCC license, or license from what ever organization in your government that manages the wireless airwaves. 

 

If you want internet away from your house 4G LTE is what your going to have to settle for. If you in the US you can get T Mobile if your in a metro area, T Mobile is not really good in the sticks. T Mobile One Plus plan offers 4G tethering. You can look in to that. T Mobile charges no overages, and T Mobiles CEO retweeted a persons post who used over 200 Gigs of data in a month. So when they mean unlimited they do mean unlimited. They can throttle after 28 gigs if your on a congested part of the network, but its better than nothing. . 

[Guest]

Does it have to be wireless or can it be wired? If you're doing wired then you're looking at MPLS.

[Guest]

16 hours ago, Windspeed36 said:

Does it have to be wireless or can it be wired? If you're doing wired then you're looking at MPLS.

10 miles wired?! how would that go with city regulations etc. but no wireless I was thinking about using analog tv deadzones, because there are quite a lot of those in the Netherlands. and I have a mast very close to my house

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Donut417 said:

 

If you want internet away from your house 4G LTE is what your going to have to settle for. If you in the US you can get T Mobile if your in a metro area, T Mobile is not really good in the sticks. T Mobile One Plus plan offers 4G tethering. You can look in to that. T Mobile charges no overages, and T Mobiles CEO retweeted a persons post who used over 200 Gigs of data in a month. So when they mean unlimited they do mean unlimited. They can throttle after 28 gigs if your on a congested part of the network, but its better than nothing. . 

no, my budget for calling is 15 euros and the deals here suck.

[Donut417]

2 minutes ago, lolimpol said:

10 miles wired?! how would that go with city regulations etc. but no wireless I was thinking about using analog tv deadzones, because there are quite a lot of those in the Netherlands. and I have a mast very close to my house

What do government regulators say? Can you just use those TV dead Zones or do you need a license to do so? From what I heard at least here in the US, the FCC does check periodically around the country that the airwaves are being used legally. I would check with your Federal Government first. No reason to incur a fine or jail time for using spectrum your not allowed to be using. 

[Guest]

13 hours ago, Donut417 said:

What do government regulators say? Can you just use those TV dead Zones or do you need a license to do so? From what I heard at least here in the US, the FCC does check periodically around the country that the airwaves are being used legally. I would check with your Federal Government first. No reason to incur a fine or jail time for using spectrum your not allowed to be using. 

yeah, i will definitely do that, but my question was how I get the interwebz flowing through analog tv channels...

[Donut417]

5 hours ago, lolimpol said:

yeah, i will definitely do that, but my question was how I get the interwebz flowing through analog tv channels...

I remember back in the day people would take WRT54 G routers, they would modulate the frequency from 2.4 Ghz to like 900Mhz and using a satellite dish, they would do site to site wireless communication between two houses. They would basically have the same setup at each end and using line of sight they would use the satellite dishes as a directional antenna. 

 

The issue is here, you need the signal omni directional, I dont think it will be practical. As the method I mentioned was good for maybe 1 or 2 miles. Anything with better range and omni directional is going to need a lot of power behind it. Ubiquity is the only company that I know that has equipment that can do long range wireless with out any special permits as WiFi tends to be license free. Im going ot have to say, your fucked. Your not going to be able to do anything at the budget you want. 

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

I remember back in the day people would take WRT54 G routers, they would modulate the frequency from 2.4 Ghz to like 900Mhz and using a satellite dish, they would do site to site wireless communication between two houses. They would basically have the same setup at each end and using line of sight they would use the satellite dishes as a directional antenna. 

 

The issue is here, you need the signal omni directional, I dont think it will be practical. As the method I mentioned was good for maybe 1 or 2 miles. Anything with better range and omni directional is going to need a lot of power behind it. Ubiquity is the only company that I know that has equipment that can do long range wireless with out any special permits as WiFi tends to be license free. Im going ot have to say, your fucked. Your not going to be able to do anything at the budget you want. 

that's pretty cool i must say, i have a DD-WRT WRT54G, but maybe i can check my local laws on analog tv broadcasting, and try and do something like the google thing that does it with sound? but thanks for the help anyways!