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Australian Internet Speeds

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its kinda hard to get these things started, BUT i would love if people could really help this thing get off the ground and people make some noise about it, this is Mostly Australia Related, But hey if you aren't from Australia and You want to help make noise about this with me, please do, and if you are in the same boat i will bring a 6pack of coldies and make some noise with you too!.
So as some people may know that Australia's internet is really poor, it averages about 9.6Mbps (1200Kbps)

fastest i can get where i live is 4.5Mps (569 Kbps)
 

ADSL2+ (which is "available" in Australia) theoretical/Capable speeds are about 20Mbps (2500Kbps) DL and 820Kbps (6.56Mbps)  UL.

Australia is ranked 50th in the world for internet speed, behind New Zealand which is 40th,

as many of you would use Steam, this could help as well, Average download speed for Rural Australians would be very similar to mine which is of late been 280Kbps. maxing at 310Kps.

Now our Government in all its crappy glory Believes our national network is fast enough, this would probably because Canberra is a city and they don't wonder outside to see that the country towns have completely garbage internet, in the town i live in, it has 1 Phone exchange that i know of, if you live with in 3Km's (1.8 Miles) you can have "ADSL2+", thou when i have used internet within this range i have notice it can often been half the speed offered.
anyone who lives outside the range of 3Kms gets 5Mbps and below and a bit further out and you have to use satellite (which isn't that fast either here for some special reason).
At the moment they are trying to implement NBN "National Broadband Network" thou it performs well under its advertised Specs (again Aus Government and Telstra lying to the masses like they love to do)  while they have been doing this, my personal internet has had to suffer, and they aren't even working within 200Kms (124 Miles) of my location. starting last Yr in October and is expecting to go on till 2018. So yay they are trying to improve the internet, so why am i complaining.
glad you asked. well the problem is, besides its underachieving speeds (in a perfect world it would move AUS from 50th World wide internet speeds to 30th), it still isn't going to help a LARGE amount of people, and they are still implementing it on a already flawed system, rather than installing more exchanged to handle more traffic, they are updating part of the line, but leaving the spine of the system the same old garbage thing, No fiber, still copper still overloaded and still out of range for alot of people.  and even if you are lucky enough to get ADSL connection on the outskirts you still pay for full fat ADSL2+ prices. 

So to put the Big offender of bad internet shitty service of all kinds in the Crosshairs, Telstra offers a $80AUD ($61US) 500GB ADSL2+ Plan, its available where i live, but i wont get the speed of ADSL2+, still have to pay full price. and even if i could get ADSL2+ it still under perform. and its not uncommon for the internet lines to be interrupted or even at times for no reason (giving reason) the internet speed will drop down to 1.2Mbps. and can stay there for days on end.

 

Yet Australia's Government (and Telstra behind it) believe that our internet is perfectly fast enough.

do you believe paying for a service that you never receive at under 1/4 of its potential speed is "perfectly"  fine and fast enough ?
any thoughts please come talk about it.
 

 

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I get 750Kb/s and I live in good ol MERICA. I also get throttled to the point of 144p or 360p videos when I am sold 10Mb/s. I called numerous times and they always say due to location the speeds in that area can't be guaranteed. I will also sometimes get ping spikes for about 10 minutes in the range of 5,000ms-10,000ms. Basically unresponsive yet still connected

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I get 750Kb/s and I live in good ol MERICA. I also get throttled to the point of 144p or 360p videos when I am sold 10Mb/s. I called numerous times and they always say due to location the speeds in that area can't be guaranteed. I will also sometimes get ping spikes for about 10 minutes in the range of 5,000ms-10,000ms. Basically unresponsive yet still connected

 

1 minute ago, Jed M said:

Perfectly greedy...

i bought a 60mbps download and 30mbps upload pack and i got the guy to gurantee at least half of that speed in an email from rogers (canadian company) and i barely get 1.2mbps when im watching youtube and when gaming i get 600kbs - REALLY????

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I get 750Kb/s and I live in good ol MERICA. I also get throttled to the point of 144p or 360p videos when I am sold 10Mb/s. I called numerous times and they always say due to location the speeds in that area can't be guaranteed. I will also sometimes get ping spikes for about 10 minutes in the range of 5,000ms-10,000ms. Basically unresponsive yet still connected

so for one you are paying more for something you aren't getting, and the response to it when inquired is basically "we aint going to fix it".
you live in a city or a country town\rural area?

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1 minute ago, gtx1060=value said:

 

i bought a 60mbps download and 30mbps upload pack and i got the guy to gurantee at least half of that speed in an email from rogers (canadian company) and i barely get 1.2mbps when im watching youtube and when gaming i get 600kbs - REALLY????

if you have emails\Documented Proof, you should be able to have some legal action there.

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16 minutes ago, ArcThanatos said:

so for one you are paying more for something you aren't getting, and the response to it when inquired is basically "we aint going to fix it".
you live in a city or a country town\rural area?

Rural. I also pay over $100 a month for it

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

Rural. I also pay over $100 a month for it

mate thats garbage, don't you love that, "oh your rural, here have some peasant internet"

 

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1 minute ago, ArcThanatos said:

mate thats garbage, don't you love that, "oh your rural, here have some peasant internet"

 

Well most kids at my school don't even have internet. When I say rural it really isn't in the middle of nowhere. There just one ISP that doesn't do anything

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

Well most kids at my school don't even have internet. When I say rural it really isn't in the middle of nowhere. There just one ISP that doesn't do anything

see there is a town not far from here that would be like that too, and between here and there a bunch of farms that get over priced and slow internet, what AusGov calls "perfectly fine",  would you call your net perfectly fine. would you call mine perfectly fine, and the sheer neglect that is given to these areas is freaken appalling

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1 minute ago, ArcThanatos said:

see there is a town not far from here that would be like that too, and between here and there a bunch of farms that get over priced and slow internet, what AusGov calls "perfectly fine",  would you call your net perfectly fine. would you call mine perfectly fine, and the sheer neglect that is given to these areas is freaken appalling

What I hate seeing is giant companies like AT&T or Google spending millions for select few to get 5Gb/s internet while the other 47% don't even have it

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24 minutes ago, gtx1060=value said:

 

i bought a 60mbps download and 30mbps upload pack and i got the guy to gurantee at least half of that speed in an email from rogers (canadian company) and i barely get 1.2mbps when im watching youtube and when gaming i get 600kbs - REALLY????

Rogers & Bell are cunts. My sister gets the same bullshit yet she lives in the middle of a large city, and pays $50/month extra for an internet speed boost she doesn't even get because she's outside the serviceable area...

 

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1 minute ago, Jed M said:

Rogers & Bell are cunts. My sister gets the same bullshit yet she lives in the middle of a large city, and pays $50/month extra for an internet speed boost she doesn't even get because she's outside the serviceable area...

 

1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

What I hate seeing is giant companies like AT&T or Google spending millions for select few to get 5Gb/s internet while the other 47% don't even have it

see this shouldnt even be a thing in this day and age, the system needs to be updated badly, it seems, sounds like AUS isn't the only place suffering, but still... 50th world wide. thats behind US and Canada majorly.

so you have to pay EXTRA! for speed that you should have natively

 

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2 minutes ago, ArcThanatos said:

 

see this shouldnt even be a thing in this day and age, the system needs to be updated badly, it seems, sounds like AUS isn't the only place suffering, but still... 50th world wide. thats behind US and Canada majorly.

so you have to pay EXTRA! for speed that you should have natively

 

I think if we classified internet as a necessity and set a broad band speed minimum law, then stuff would happen

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

I think if we classified internet as a necessity and set a broad band speed minimum law, then stuff would happen

haha no it wouldn't, there are "laws" but companys tend to ignore them mostly, i cant see telstra abiding by those laws, because they own the phone lines so its what they say goes basically

 

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38 minutes ago, Jed M said:

Rogers & Bell are cunts. My sister gets the same bullshit yet she lives in the middle of a large city, and pays $50/month extra for an internet speed boost she doesn't even get because she's outside the serviceable area...

For me, Rogers has been great (suburban Toronto)

pay $100 for 100/10 speeds (speedtest/fast.com/torrents give me 200mb, so they're giving me 2x speed for free)

 

99% reliable, the 1% is because we dangle our internet and power over trees and sometimes that fucks up for a minute or so

 

for cellular, it's working fine. However; I'm only getting around -110 to -120dbm of LTE :/ pretty bad. But, it's still LTE. Bell in my area doesn't even have LTE (they claim to.)

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For me, Rogers has been great (suburban Toronto)

pay $100 for 100/10 speeds (speedtest/fast.com/torrents give me 200mb, so they're giving me 2x speed for free)

 

99% reliable, the 1% is because we dangle our internet and power over trees and sometimes that fucks up for a minute or so

 

for cellular, it's working fine. However; I'm only getting around -110 to -120dbm of LTE :/ pretty bad. But, it's still LTE. Bell in my area doesn't even have LTE (they claim to.)

Rogers is so great they'll automatically renew your contract for you without your consent :) Nice guys 

 

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Just now, Jed M said:

Rogers is so great they'll automatically renew your contract for you without your consent :) Nice guys 

?

we didn't have a contract originally.. So.. There is none? 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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Just now, themctipers said:

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we didn't have a contract originally.. So.. There is none? 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ROGERS?!?!? WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT?!?!?

 

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YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ROGERS?!?!? WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT?!?!?

Go grandfathered plans!

I mean, my '100/10' one isn't but, somehow we didn't have a contract with it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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Just now, themctipers said:

Go grandfathered plans!

I mean, my '100/10' one isn't but, somehow we didn't have a contract with it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

When my parents signed up with them a couple years ago they said that there was no plans without a contract, regardless of where you live...

 

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Just now, Jed M said:

When my parents signed up with them a couple years ago they said that there was no plans without a contract, regardless of where you live...

A couple of years ago. :) 

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if i had a dollar for everytime australian internet was spoken about on this forum i'd have a lot of money

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37 minutes ago, Rika Shiguma said:

if i had a dollar for everytime australian internet was spoken about on this forum i'd have a lot of money

dude, our net is fucked!. seriously it was slow before they tried putting in NBN, now its slower!!!

 

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42 minutes ago, ArcThanatos said:

dude, our net is fucked!. seriously it was slow before they tried putting in NBN, now its slower!!!

 

Well you haven't done your research correctly. MyRepublic IS making their nbn services not slow like other isps

Edit: Kinda rushed this, But what I mean is. MyRepublic's NBN services, people who are on it have posted positive results. (Plus.. 100/40 for like 59.95 per month... HELL YEA I WANT THIS ASAP IM SICK OF GETTING STUCK ON 4MBPS DOWNLOAD)

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