i3-6100 vs i5-6400 at gaming... which is more worth to get?

[Blackhole890]

since the i5 costs around 50-70$ more and has lower clock speeds, at gaming, their frames are almost the same...

[TomR]

2 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

since the i5 costs around 50-70$ more and has lower clock speeds, at gaming, their frames are almost the same...

You can get a brand new i5 7400 for $168.

[TomR]

2 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

since the i5 costs around 50-70$ more and has lower clock speeds, at gaming, their frames are almost the same...

And no, their frame rates are not almost the same in most games.

[samocamo123]

Wait for Ryzen, once R5 and R3 launch you might have a much better cpu for your money.

[NTDaws]

17 minutes ago, samocamo123 said:

Wait for Ryzen, once R5 and R3 launch you might have a much better cpu for your money.

It's not called R5 or R3 It's called 5 or 3.

[Megah3rtz]

1 minute ago, Dawson Wehage said:

It's not called R5 or R3 It's called 5 or 3.

ah yes, the AMD 7-1700x 

[samocamo123]

1 minute ago, Dawson Wehage said:

It's not called R5 or R3 It's called 5 or 3.

Well if your going to be that specific, it's not called 5 or 3 it is called Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 3.

[Princess Luna]

Any particular reason to go with skylake when we have Kaby Lake and Ryzen on the picture already, since all newer games will use the 4 cores the i5 will be better than the i three but the best budget CPU from intel is the G4560

[Blackhole890]

1 hour ago, TomR said:

And no, their frame rates are not almost the same in most games.

looked some testing on games such as bf1 and witcher 3, the 6400 beats 6100 for 5-10 fps...

[Megah3rtz]

2 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

looked some testing on games such as bf1 and witcher 3, the 6400 beats 6100 for 5-10 fps...

With what GPU? 

[Blackhole890]

1 minute ago, Megah3rtz said:

With what GPU? 

1060 6gb

[Megah3rtz]

32 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

1060 6gb

That's why, the GPU is probably the bottleneck. 

[imreloadin]

39 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

looked some testing on games such as bf1 and witcher 3, the 6400 beats 6100 for 5-10 fps...

Was that the average fps or the minimum fps? The minimums are where the i3 will kill you...

[smokefest]

1 hour ago, Blackhole890 said:

looked some testing on games such as bf1 and witcher 3, the 6400 beats 6100 for 5-10 fps...

There are many other factors that creates lag other than FPS

I had 80 fps all the time in BF1 with my i5, and I was getting lag big time, cpu reachin 100% usage create a lot of stuttering and this is as bad as having 15 fps...

 

 

[smokefest]

Anyway, buying now is a mistake. Wait only 2 weeks to see REAL Ryzen performance, and then price adjustement, new anouncement from Intel , etc...

Should wait 1 month before building a new PC IMO or you are going to either waste money or regret it in the very near futur like 3 months

[Blackhole890]

13 hours ago, smokefest said:

Anyway, buying now is a mistake. Wait only 2 weeks to see REAL Ryzen performance, and then price adjustement, new anouncement from Intel , etc...

Should wait 1 month before building a new PC IMO or you are going to either waste money or regret it in the very near futur like 3 months

im not getting a new rig, just wondering which one of those is more powerful at gaming  

13 hours ago, imreloadin said:

Was that the average fps or the minimum fps? The minimums are where the i3 will kill you...

almost the same, the minimums were around 3-4 fps difference

 

13 hours ago, Megah3rtz said:

That's why, the GPU is probably the bottleneck. 

ikr, but since 6400 clocks are too slow and i3 ones are pretty fast, i dont think that 6400 is worth getting unless you're spending a bit more for 6500 or 6600k, no?

[smokefest]

2 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

im not getting a new rig, just wondering which one of those is more powerful at gaming  

almost the same, the minimums were around 3-4 fps difference

 

ikr, but since 6400 clocks are too slow and i3 ones are pretty fast, i dont think that 6400 is worth getting unless you're spending a bit more for 6500 or 6600k, no?

not correct. the 6400 is still worth over the i3....

Check per example GTA V benchmark.. you will get 25% more FPS in average just by having 4 real cores instead of 2 cores 4 threads...

Threads does not = cores...

 

the i5 wins in every sapects, some not heavy cpu games will run just as good on the i3 but some heavy cpu games will get lot less fps with the i3

[smokefest]

Of course I would agree with you, better get the 6600k and overclock the shit out of it for the price difference  but that means you need a more costy MOBO, so in the end, its all about money...

 

No money ? get a 6400 and cheap mobo,

 

got money ? go for the goddamn i7 7700k,

 

Got brain ? Wait to see Ryzen real life results and intel price adjustment / annoucements

 

[Blackhole890]

3 minutes ago, smokefest said:

not correct. the 6400 is still worth over the i3....

Check per example GTA V benchmark.. you will get 25% more FPS in average just by having 4 real cores instead of 2 cores 4 threads...

Threads does not = cores...

 

the i5 wins in every sapects, some not heavy cpu games will run just as good on the i3 but some heavy cpu games will get lot less fps with the i3

amm, no...?

 

 

 

[imreloadin]

42 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

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You do realize that all you've "proved" in that video is that both CPUs are bottlenecked by the 380x right?

 

I couldn't find any i3-6100/i5-6400 comparisons with a better GPU but I did find one with an i3-6300/i5-6600 comparison which is still valid as they're currently $70 apart from each other in price as in your i3-6100/i5-6400 comparison. These results are with a GTX 970 which is what most would consider a mid-range GPU.

Notice how the GPU Usage overlay on the i5 side is mostly pegged between 97-99% whereas the GPU usage on the i3-6300 drops into the 80s numerous times? This is because the i3 is bottlenecking the 970 and can't feed it information quickly enough to keep it at constant load.

 

Moral of the story is if you're going to compare two CPUs with a lower powered GPU then your results for both will be nearly equal as the GPU can't keep up with the CPUs.