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2 minutes ago, wii8cookies said:

I was also just considering a generic mc server hoster like this one  https://mcprohosting.com I just thought It would be fun to host it myself.

getting someone else to host it is normally cheaper faster more secure, and you can run more players if you want.

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10 minutes ago, wii8cookies said:

I am thinking about buying this old server on ebay I found for $60, and I was wondering if I could turn it into a dedicated minecraft server, with a custom ip and all. 

Depends on the server. What hardware is it using? If the CPU is x86 and powerful enough and you got 8GB or more of RAM, sure.As for the custom IP: Why go IP? it is REALLY annoying to dictate an IP to your friends, way easier to use NO-IP's free service and get an address like "Wii8craft.no-ip.org".

 

Assuming that you installed Windows on the Server:

(I am currently on Linux so I can't provide screenshots)

  1. Go to No-IP, make a free account and register the Domain
  2. Install the No-IP program on your server, log in and select the domain
  3. visit your routers page (mostly 192.168.0.1), by typing its IP or domain name into the navigation bar of your browser (just as you would with a website) if you can't find your routers IP, open the cmd.exe and type in "ipconfig" there you will find your "gateway"'s IP. At this point you should also note down the servers local IP (not 127.0.0.1 but one beginning with 192.0.X.X most likely)
  4. find IP forwarding, it could also be hidden under port management or port forwarding. Forward 25565 both for UDP and TDP to your server
  5. install the minecraft server app of your choice (I'd go with Forge) and run it
  6. Test the server by installing minecraft on the server itself and connecting to "localhost"
  7. Test the server by installing minecraft on a different machine on the same local network and connecting to the local IP of the server
  8. Check the Domain by using a trace service like this one to see if it goes to your public IPv4 (which you can find out just by asking google or wolfram alpha)
  9. ask a friend to connect

If you can connect but your friend can't you should call your ISP (preferably with an angry voice) and ask about "IP encapsulation" and ask for your "own bloody IP [you] pay for" and or check your port forward

If you can connect while you are running minecraft on the server itself, but not from any other PC, shut down the firewall on the server

 

I will follow up with a more elegant solution after reading these other 20+ posts that were posted while I wrote this

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27 minutes ago, wii8cookies said:

here is the server http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-CS24-SC-1U-Cluster-Cloud-Server-2x-2-50GHz-QC-5420-16GB-Ram-NO-HDD-/232176971369?hash=item360ed36e69:g:fxYAAOSwnHZYVHOF

It helpfully doesn't say what CPU it uses :/ but 16GB of RAM is plenty, be aware that you will have to get a drive, SSD or HDD to actually run it

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19 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

don't buy that thing.

 

buy this

https://aws.amazon.com/

 

Much more secure(no one knows your ip) faster, free for a year, and then noramlly cheaper after than.

hey I just looked into that, and I found this software called MSM- http://msmhq.com/ with this guide to run a minecraft server with that on a amazon server, or just any server, if anyone knows of any other hosting.

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10 minutes ago, wii8cookies said:

I was also just considering a generic mc server hoster like this one  https://mcprohosting.com I just thought It would be fun to host it myself.

Here is what I did when I got my first server to play with:

Spoiler

I told my parents I thought we should get a NAS. Good arguments are file security (always nice to remind them that harddrives like to fail and recovery isn't perfect and ridiculously expensive). When they agreed I said I would build it for them (they gave me 200€ I think), so I got a modern dualcore (should have thrown in more money to get a quadcore, but they were really expensive), took the HDDs out of my PC (had a small SSD for windows) and build a small rig with space for 6 3.5'' drives, a modern 35W CPU and installed Linux onto it.

Here is what I would recommend:

Try getting some money from your parents with the same arguments I used (they are true after all).

Find a sandybridge or newer quadcore chip that is already in a motherboard on ebay. Remember that there are server SKEWs as well. And remember that the best deals often come as labled as "PC 500GB no windows" or similar.

Get some compatible RAM, but at least 4GB and upgrade-able to at least 16GB

Get a new ad decent cheap PSU, in the EU the Corsair VS350 and a 350 W Seasonic one are good options, but check between Jonny Guru and some local price checking page to be sure.

Don't bother with a propper case if you can afford better hardware. Use non-conductive double-sided tape (most double-sided tape is) to tape the MoBo to a piece of corrugated cardboard. Use an old box, tape the HDDs and the PSU into the bottom, cut out some holes for ventilation and put the MoBo assemble on top.

Install the free trial of Unraid and open a new thread here where you reference me, so that I can help you from then on. I am running Mine-OS and No-IP in dockers and am pretty confident that I can get it running for you.

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43 minutes ago, wii8cookies said:

here is the server http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-CS24-SC-1U-Cluster-Cloud-Server-2x-2-50GHz-QC-5420-16GB-Ram-NO-HDD-/232176971369?hash=item360ed36e69:g:fxYAAOSwnHZYVHOF

few things:

1: that's gonna be a disaster to run, unlike what some like to claim, minecraft is EXTREMELY single threaded performance dependant, which this server doesnt have much of :P i've actually did some torture testing on a server like this a few years back, and it took minutes, rather than seconds, to deal with some TNT going off.

2: dont host anything you intend to open up to the public at home, your ISP wont like that

3: that thing will make your ears bleed, i hope you're already aware of that.

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10 minutes ago, wii8cookies said:

hey I just looked into that, and I found this software called MSM- http://msmhq.com/ with this guide to run a minecraft server with that on a amazon server, or just any server, if anyone knows of any other hosting.

If you are going with this and a server hosting, it is probably easier and cheaper to pay one of the minecraft hosting services like nitrado

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

they are all downright terrible... just get a VPS if you want to do something like this.

I have no experience with them :D

I host all my stuff from my parents house (most of which is only open to my VPN and local network) 

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1 minute ago, ChalkChalkson said:

I have no experience with them :D

I host all my stuff from my parents house (most of which is only open to my VPN and local network) 

most of them have no idea on the requirements of the games they're even trying to host (at some point, i was on a public minecraft server that got an "upgrade" from their host provider from something modern, to having 8 server crammed onto a box like OP found), they are notorious for hilareous over-selling their resources (for example, they might have 40-50GB of rented server on a 32GB box, if they're rented by the GB), and some (like the one you mentioned) dont even mention what kind of hardware you'll be getting, and i'm sorry but if anyone in the server industry thinks that selling a 20 slot minecraft server asks for the same resources selling a 20 slot counter strike server does, they should be fired.

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

most of them have no idea on the requirements of the games they're even trying to host (at some point, i was on a public minecraft server that got an "upgrade" from their host provider from something modern, to having 8 server crammed onto a box like OP found), they are notorious for hilareous over-selling their resources (for example, they might have 40-50GB of rented server on a 32GB box, if they're rented by the GB), and some (like the one you mentioned) dont even mention what kind of hardware you'll be getting, and i'm sorry but if anyone in the server industry thinks that selling a 20 slot minecraft server asks for the same resources selling a 20 slot counter strike server does, they should be fired.

^^ I guess it is the price for simplicity :P I sure know why I never payed companies for server hosting... Being too small for going with the proper solutions puts someone who wants to experiment into a bad spot...

I also heard the wolfram cloud can be used for this kind of thing...

Also a raspberry pie can acutally run a minecraft server ;)  

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

it cant, not in any notable way anyways.

It can run the application, and I know that it can handle the physics (after all it runs the game). I guess you won't be able to blow up much TNT but it will allow you to do the basic stuff with one or two friends. 

All it is, is the cheapest and smallest scale version of a dedicated server you will get

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By the way, I am not using the fully setup MC server on the NAS at my parents place. It ain't great and I will sure as hell not give you access to the VPN but if you tell me how you want it to be setup and what mods you want (currently running some version of life in the woods) I could set it up for you and tell you my domain

EDIT:

No need to tell you that I you will need to contact me privately for this, if you are interested

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1 minute ago, ChalkChalkson said:

It can run the application, and I know that it can handle the physics (after all it runs the game). I guess you won't be able to blow up much TNT but it will allow you to do the basic stuff with one or two friends. 

All it is, is the cheapest and smallest scale version of a dedicated server you will get

it doesnt actually run *the java minecraft*, the minecraft you see on the pi is essentially in the same branch as the vareous mobile versions. the desktop version does *launch* if you try hard enough, but it's not really much more than that.

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3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

it doesnt actually run *the java minecraft*, the minecraft you see on the pi is essentially in the same branch as the vareous mobile versions. the desktop version does *launch* if you try hard enough, but it's not really much more than that.

Interesting.... I have seen Minecraft servers running on pies though, I don't know how good the performance was :D

But you also need to consider that most of the heavy lifting is graphics and the pie doesn't have a DGPU which would explain why it can do this thing but not run the desktop version 

But don't quite me on the Pie thing please 

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1 minute ago, ChalkChalkson said:

Interesting.... I have seen Minecraft servers running on pies though, I don't know how good the performance was :D

But you also need to consider that most of the heavy lifting is graphics and the pie doesn't have a DGPU which would explain why it can do this thing but not run the desktop version 

there actually *was* a modified minecraft beta 1.7.3 server that would run on the pi, but even that was pretty basic.

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5 hours ago, wii8cookies said:

what if I buy an oldish pc and upgrade it a bit more... would that work? I mean I want the server to be up (almost) 24/7. My budget is under $100 if anyone can find anything else

If you want it to run 24/7, then buy a vps. That's what vps' are for...

My native language is C++

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