is the fx 8350 obsolete (for gaming)

[manlykeweaver465]

i recently brought a new gpu (gtx 1060 6gb) and my cpu is an fx 6300.

 

thinking about upgrading my cpu but only have about 250 to spend so my initial option would be to go for an fx 8350, but my question is should i go for an i3 or an entry level i5 if it can fit my budget (dont think i could buy skylake due to having to buy new ram)

[comicsansms]

Don't replace your FX 6300 with a FX 8350, it isn't worth it.

If you can, I would recommended you try and sell your CPU/motherboard platform ASAP, I think the value will drop significantly when Ryzen comes out if you don't sell it now.

[Morgan MLGman]

Nope, it's not obsolete. It's like this: FX-8350 is good-enough for a GPU up to the RX 480 / GTX 1060 6GB point. Though replacing an FX-6300 for an FX-8350 won't bring huge performance gains. I'd wait it out until Zen releases.

[CDHoward]

My FX 8350 let's me run all games at Very High/Ultra, with an overclocked R9 270X 4GB.

 

You do, though, need to mess about a little bit to optimise it; to get a stable overclock etc.

 

I'd say wait for Ryzen, to be honest, mate.

 

Personally, I'm sticking with my 8350 as the Ryzen 4-core won't be better, probably (and also because I can't afford the Ryzen 8-core).

[Void Reaper]

I'm not sure about the fx 8350 as i don't really have knowledge on AMD's side, but if you can get your hands on Sandy/Ivy Bridge CPUs you should be fine. 2600k or 3570k should be fairly cheap now if bought used and they are still pretty damn good. Even haswell/devils canyon as they are on the older side now aswell, but i'm not too sure if they are that cheap when bought used yet. But i don't think that the 8350 is that bad.

[manlykeweaver465]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Nope, it's not obsolete. It's like this: FX-8350 is good-enough for a GPU up to the RX 480 / GTX 1060 6GB point. Though replacing an FX-6300 for an FX-8350 won't bring huge performance gains. I'd wait it out until Zen releases.

i know it wont be a massive performance but i keep getting dips in games and i think its my cpu letting me down 

[Matias_Chambers]

I would get an i5 4460 with a cheaper motherboard and then reuse your RAM.

[Verrierr]

1 minute ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

i know it wont be a massive performance but i keep getting dips in games and i think its my cpu letting me down 

Is your current cpu overclocked? That could get you some more performance if you need it.

[Morgan MLGman]

2 minutes ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

i know it wont be a massive performance but i keep getting dips in games and i think its my cpu letting me down 

Well, I personally don't think it'll be worth it to spend money on an FX-8350 atm unless on a crazy good price, remember that you need to have an appropriate motherboard for it and a cooler that lets you overclock.

 

As I said, I'd wait or if I couldn't wait I'd get an i5/i7.

[manlykeweaver465]

3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Well, I personally don't think it'll be worth it to spend money on an FX-8350 atm unless on a crazy good price, remember that you need to have an appropriate motherboard for it and a cooler that lets you overclock.

 

As I said, I'd wait or if I couldn't wait I'd get an i5/i7.

yeah i might just try and save up and just be patient, i would have more money to spend but im going on holiday like a month after my birthday so i need to keep some money for spending money (the pound to dollar rate is s**t at the moment )

[Majestic]

6 hours ago, CDHoward said:

My FX 8350 let's me run all games at Very High/Ultra, with an overclocked R9 270X 4GB.

My 4670K @ 4.3ghz and a GTX 980 doesn't let me run all games at very high/ultra.

Pretty sure my hardware is faster, and you're talking out of your arse. 

 

As for the topic, yes it is obsolete in the sense that you shouldn't invest in it anymore. But i'd withold buying a new platform until Ryzen drops/

[SCHISCHKA]

my prediction is that when the new CPU arrive in a month or so; the second hand market will be flooded with 83X0. Make your decision then. I bought a 8120 when it came out and i have not needed to upgrade the CPU to play games at high/ultra settings. I have considered upgrading to the 4GHz 8 core FX models so I can overclock higher and compile software faster, but it is a couple of hundred bucks not worth it considering no one will buy the used CPU I have

[Majestic]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

my prediction is that when the new CPU arrive in a month or so; the second hand market will be flooded with 83X0. Make your decision then. I bought a 8120 when it came out and i have not needed to upgrade the CPU to play games at high/ultra settings. I have considered upgrading to the 4GHz 8 core FX models so I can overclock higher and compile software faster, but it is a couple of hundred bucks not worth it considering no one will buy the used CPU I have

Assuming he can go without a PC for months. Because the affordable chips aren't the first ones to roll out. Pretty sure the 8C/16T ones will hit first, and those will be pretty expensive.

[CDHoward]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

My 4670K @ 4.3ghz and a GTX 980 doesn't met me run all games at very high/ultra.

 

Pretty sure my hardware is faster, and you're talking out of your arse. 

Okay, so I was probably pushing it with the Ultra claim.

 

My OC'ed 8350, though, benchmarks just a sliver under the 9590. And my OC'ed 270X benchmarks equally to a 980 with Furmark.

[SCHISCHKA]

3 minutes ago, Majestic said:

My 4670K @ 4.3ghz and a GTX 980 doesn't met me run all games at very high/ultra.

Pretty sure my hardware is faster, and you're talking out of your arse. 

they are not talking out their arse. the gamer hate towards AMD-FX is strong in this one. an 8 core FX is equivalent to a quad core intel but it can clock higher; it needs to clock higher. it just takes a bit of playing with to get it to perform, but it can perform

[Majestic]

3 minutes ago, CDHoward said:

And my OC'ed 270X benchmarks equally to a 980 with Furmark.

> furmark.

 

Let's see you post 16500 graphics scores in Firestrike. You're still pushing it mate.

 

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

they are not talking out their arse. the gamer hate towards AMD-FX is strong in this one. an 8 core FX is equivalent to a quad core intel but it can clock higher; it needs to clock higher. it just takes a bit of playing with to get it to perform, but it can perform

More referring to the GPU, mate.

[BaalRunz]

2 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

they are not talking out their arse. the gamer hate towards AMD-FX is strong in this one. an 8 core FX is equivalent to a quad core intel but it can clock higher; it needs to clock higher. it just takes a bit of playing with to get it to perform, but it can perform

Doesn't this depend on the game and if it can utilize multiple cores correctly/etc?

[CDHoward]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

> furmark.

 

Let's see you post 16500 graphics scores in Firestrike. You're still pushing it mate.

I admit, Firestrike cripples me.

 

And by the way, actually I do game at Ultra with smooth framerates.

[SCHISCHKA]

3 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Assuming he can go without a PC for months. Because the affordable chips aren't the first ones to roll out. Pretty sure the 8C/16T ones will hit first, and those will be pretty expensive.

go without a PC? this cat has a pc. a not so great three FX unit cpu that runs equivalent to an i3

[CDHoward]

4 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

go without a PC? this cat has a pc. a not so great three FX unit cpu that runs equivalent to an i3

On single core, yeah, which is fastly becoming redundant with DX12.

 

Look, in benchmarks, my 8350 actually beats most of the I7s lel.

[SCHISCHKA]

1 minute ago, BaalRunz said:

Doesn't this depend on the game and if it can utilize multiple cores correctly/etc?

it depends on a lot of things, game ending, compiler, OS. I just upgraded to the 3GB model of the GTX1060 last year when it came out and I'm satisfied with the games I can play. There are concerning games that cannot push the CPU above 50% load and i think thats because of the intel compiler. it is comparable to the quad core i5, it is also priced at that point. They are an octa core priced at the price of a quad core intel for a reason

[3 Lions]

The FX 8350 wasn't good even when it was launched, you take any Intel i5 and i7 released in the same year compare it to the 8350 you'll see that the i5's and i7's are better.

 

[SCHISCHKA]

3 minutes ago, CDHoward said:

Look, in benchmarks, my 8350 actually beats most of the I7s lel.

only in compiling software and running virtual machines

[iBabySlapper]

It's not obsolete, as it's perfectly able to play games. If you're buying a 8350, get it used and for as little as possible, maybe for about $100, it's not really worth paying full price for.

[Majestic]

26 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

go without a PC? this cat has a pc. a not so great three FX unit cpu that runs equivalent to an i3

Thought you were suggesting to sell it because of the second-hand market dropping. But you were suggesting to buy second hand when that occurs, my bad.

 

But then we'd have to know the motherboard he's using. Which is a Asus M5A97 LE R2.0, not great.

 

23 minutes ago, CDHoward said:

Look, in benchmarks, my 8350 actually beats most of the I7s lel.

Is there no end to your cognitive dissonance? Just stop with the misinformation, please.