What is the best Gtx1070 ?

[Nagisa Shiota]

Hello iam currently building my Pc but iam troubled on to which is the best gtx 1070 ? iam currently debating on asus strix oc 1070 and Zotac amp edition 1070 which is better ? and if there is better than these 2 mentioned pls give suggestions thanks  ! ^^ 

[QuantumBit]

Get whichever is cheaper, the only difference is how it looks and minor cooling differences.

[FIXXX]

The differences are minor between models. Get the cheapest one you can find - except the Asus Turbo, the plastic of the shroud makes me uneasy.

[Squibbies18]

6 minutes ago, Nagisa Shiota said:

Hello iam currently building my Pc but iam troubled on to which is the best gtx 1070 ? iam currently debating on asus strix oc 1070 and Zotac amp edition 1070 which is better ? and if there is better than these 2 mentioned pls give suggestions thanks  ! ^^ 

the amp extreme is the best 1070 out of the bunch but the backplate is not that nice due to the yellow and it's a massive card, i'd go with a 1070 FTW 

[Krik00]

Gigabyte's have the best temps.

Personal favorite is EVGA.

[Freezanator]

@Nagisa Shiota I suggest going with the Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce OC 8GB GDDR5. Gigabyte is known for having one of the lowest temps among the other manufacturers in a specific price range.  

[Toutou158]

In my opinion you should pick up the zotac gtx 1070 amp extreme edition as it has the highest factory overclocked and you can find it quit cheap actually 408 dollars on amazon,in addition to this it's quite solid,so close your eyes and go for it.

[Hip]

I'd pick the Asus ROG Strix GTX 1070 O8G

[Nagisa Shiota]

OHh well tbh iam not that into overclocking thing iam kinda you know scared of that thing because i might damage it on due time ~ though but hmmm soo i shall abandon asus then since i recalled they have really bad customer support now is evga and zotac which is better ? and does the i7 give any significance to gaming at all or i5 is already good thanks all~ for helping btw iam really new to this pc building kind of thing 

[QuantumBit]

59 minutes ago, Nagisa Shiota said:

OHh well tbh iam not that into overclocking thing iam kinda you know scared of that thing because i might damage it on due time ~ though but hmmm soo i shall abandon asus then since i recalled they have really bad customer support now is evga and zotac which is better ? and does the i7 give any significance to gaming at all or i5 is already good thanks all~ for helping btw iam really new to this pc building kind of thing 

No point in spending $100+ on a i7 for gaming

 

Also when they say "overclocked" they mean it already comes like that, you don't need to do anything.

[Nagisa Shiota]

Ohhh okie gotcha thanks again !! ^^ 

[Cyberspirit]

I don't know if this is the best option but this is what i choosed: Msi Gtx 1070 quick silver 8gb OC.

 

It seems like a really good card but the main reason i went with it is because it's white tbh.

If you don't care about the way it looks you could go with a Gigabyte gtx 1070 windforce.

 

It doesn't have a backplate but it has good cooling too.

If you are not sure what to buy just look up a couple reviews and videos about it.

That's what i did for 3 months straight when i was planning my first build.

[HKZeroFive]

Whichever is cheaper or fits your colour scheme/personal preference best...

 

Also, ignore the people saying that i7s make no impact in gaming... This has been disproved time and time again. i5s are good, but i7s are simply better (primarily with giving more consistent frametimes and a higher minimum framerate).

 

[Krik00]

On 1/30/2017 at 11:06 AM, HKZeroFive said:

Whichever is cheaper or fits your colour scheme/personal preference best...

 

Also, ignore the people saying that i7s make no impact in gaming... This has been disproved time and time again. i5s are good, but i7s are simply better (primarily with giving more consistent frametimes and a higher minimum framerate).

 

i7 is better in CPU bound games. Most GPU bound games have not really that bigger framerates with i7. However, many games can take advantage of Hyperthreading, and I see more and more games like that in the future. 

[HKZeroFive]

52 minutes ago, 4kliksphilip said:

i7 is better in CPU bound games. Most GPU bound games have not really that bigger framerates with i7. However, many games can take advantage of Hyperthreading, and I see more and more games like that in the future. 

Even so, in those GPU-bound games you'll see the higher minimum framerates and more consistent frametimes like I've previously said before. And, if you're pushing for a high framerate, a i7 is a must to leverage the full potential of a high-end GPU.

[Krik00]

2 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

Even so, in those GPU-bound games you'll see the higher minimum framerates and more consistent frametimes like I've previously said before. And, if you're pushing for a high framerate, a i7 is a must to leverage the full potential of a high-end GPU.

That is true, although it is an extreme case. We're speaking generally.

[HKZeroFive]

19 hours ago, 4kliksphilip said:

That is true, although it is an extreme case. We're speaking generally.

I wouldn't call high framerate gaming "extreme" since that demographic still makes up a significant portion of the gaming community... within informed communities (I say "informed" because we're still living in a time where a good amount of people think an unlocked i5 is essentially the very best for gaming and i7s should only be for editing) it's generally agreed upon that a GTX 1070 is where you'll start to see the benefits of an i7 come into play more in the form of higher framerates. And CPUs have essentially hit a hard wall in terms of performance, whereas GPUs will continue to increasingly deliver more performance at a more accessible price. I won't call it futureproofing because I hate the concept but more "equipped for the future"... to put it another way, i7s will last much longer than a i5 and you essentially won't have to worry about upgrading the CPU for many, many years.

 

By all means, I would choose the i5 6600K + GTX 1070 combo over the i7 6700K + GTX 1060/RX 480 for gaming if forced but a i7 shouldn't be reserved for "extreme" cases.

[Darkseth]

On 29.1.2017 at 4:04 PM, QuantumBit said:

No point in spending $100+ on a i7 for gaming

 

Also when they say "overclocked" they mean it already comes like that, you don't need to do anything.

There is, because an i5 is already Bottlenecking in some Games, depending on GPU (aka, depending on how much fps you have).

in BF1, yes i5 is struggling, and an i7 would deliver a much smoother framerate experience.

 

Witcher 3? Well, in CPU Limit, an i5 delivers 100 fps, an i7 can push 140 fps (see DigitalFoundry for Tests).

 

Not interesting for anyone using a 60 Hz Monitor, as more than 60 fps are useless. But if someone is using a 144 Hz Monitor? Then it would be just stupid to go down to an i5, but still buy a 500€ GTX 1070. The CPU is more important, as it will remain in the PC for the next 5-6 Years, and will need to deliver the data not just for the GTX 1070 today, but also the GTX 1270 in 3 years you might upgrade to.

 

Get an i5 today + GTX 1070 can already bottleneck today like i said. But with a much stronger GPU in 3 years, you will be in a situation, where the i5 is bottlenecking, since an i7 would deliver more fps.

 

 

Honestly: I would chose i7 + GTX 1060 / RX 480 over an i5 + GTX 1070 ANYDAY. Because it's important to have a solid strong Platform as a basis, that will remain for 5-6 Years.

i5 + 1070 might deliver more avg fps in most games today, but as soon you upgrade that, you are in a huge disadvantage.

Look into the next 5-6 Years, not just today. You won't upgrade your CPU in 2 years with your GPU. CPU has a much longer lifespan --> CPU is important.

 

 

I mean, just think now about a Sandybridge or Ivy bridge. Compare them TODAY, after 5-6 years, i5 vs. i7 how they perform with the GPUs and Games, that are out today.

I promise you, the i7 will deliver MUCH better fps. the difference is today MUCH higher, than it was 5 years ago. because a Sandybridge i5 IS bottlenecking today, and would bottleneck even a GTX 1060/RX 480. While the i7 Sandy will struggle much less. While the i5 Sandy user might need to upgrade today, the i7 Sandy user might be fine for another year or 2.

 

Hyperthreading does make a difference.

 

And if there is 150€ to upgrade the 1060 to a 1070 which only lasts for 2-3 years, there will be 110€ more for an i7 which lasts 6 years.

 

----> If you DO have the Money for it, Get the i7. Period. You won't regret it.

 

The "Extreme scenario" WILL come in a few years by itself, you don't need to force it

[Krik00]

59 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

I wouldn't call high framerate gaming "extreme" since that demographic still makes up a significant portion of the gaming community... within informed communities (I say "informed" because we're still living in a time where a good amount of people think an unlocked i5 is essentially the very best for gaming and i7s should only be for editing) it's generally agreed upon that a GTX 1070 is where you'll start to see the benefits of an i7 come into play more in the form of higher framerates. And CPUs have essentially hit a hard wall in terms of performance, whereas GPUs will continue to increasingly deliver more performance at a more accessible price. I won't call it futureproofing because I hate the concept but more "equipped for the future"... to put it another way, i7s will last much longer than a i5 and you essentially won't have to worry about upgrading the CPU for many, many years.

 

By all means, I would choose the i5 6600K + GTX 1070 combo over the i7 6700K + GTX 1060/RX 480 for gaming if forced but a i7 shouldn't be reserved for "extreme" cases.

I was referring to the part "a i7 is a must to leverage the full potential of a high-end GPU" as an "extreme case". Considering high-end GPU, as say 1080 or Titan XP. Not so many people can afford those, as highest market share is more around 1070, to this day.

 

Also, I think there was a misunderstanding with extreme case. I mentioned it as a math term, also known as "limiting case", where you take highest possible variables to the equation.

[HKZeroFive]

1 hour ago, 4kliksphilip said:

I was referring to the part "a i7 is a must to leverage the full potential of a high-end GPU" as an "extreme case". Considering high-end GPU, as say 1080 or Titan XP. Not so many people can afford those, as highest market share is more around 1070, to this day.

 

Also, I think there was a misunderstanding with extreme case. I mentioned it as a math term, also known as "limiting case", where you take highest possible variables to the equation.

Okay, I'm not sure if we're on the same wavelength at the moment...

 

I was trying to explain that the GTX 1070 (not so much with the GTX 1060) is where you're going to start to see an i5 6600/7600K (even when overclocked) struggle in many titles if you were playing at a resolution such as 1080p 144Hz since it cannot keep up with the number of drawcalls and "bottleneck" it (hence, why I said an i7 is a must to leverage the full potential of a high-end GPU; the GTX 1070 belongs in that category). Digital Foundry demonstrated this with their video using a Titan X Maxwell (which I think we can agree is not unlike a GTX 1070).

 

True, said titles are significantly also CPU-bound as well as also being GPU-bound (The Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Crysis 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Battlefield 1 and Watch Dogs 2 to name a few) but that's essentially the definition of the ever popular word that is "bottleneck".

[Cyberspirit]

17 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

Okay, I'm not sure if we're on the same wavelength at the moment...

 

I was trying to explain that the GTX 1070 (not so much with the GTX 1060) is where you're going to start to see an i5 6600/7600K (even when overclocked) struggle in many titles if you were playing at a resolution such as 1080p 144Hz since it cannot keep up with the number of drawcalls and "bottleneck" it (hence, why I said an i7 is a must to leverage the full potential of a high-end GPU; the GTX 1070 belongs in that category). Digital Foundry demonstrated this with their video using a Titan X Maxwell (which I think we can agree is not unlike a GTX 1070).

 

True, said titles are significantly also CPU-bound as well as also being GPU-bound (The Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Crysis 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Battlefield 1 and Watch Dogs 2 to name a few) but that's essentially the definition of the ever popular word that is "bottleneck".

What about a 1070 with i5-6600k on 60Hz? 

Because i have a 6600k and i'd like to buy a 1070.

[HKZeroFive]

8 minutes ago, Cyberspirit said:

What about a 1070 with i5-6600k on 60Hz? 

Because i have a 6600k and i'd like to buy a 1070.

For 1080p 60Hz? Seems mighty overkill but you should be fine.

[Cyberspirit]

1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

For 1080p 60Hz? Seems mighty overkill but you should be fine.

Okay thanks. I got worried for a second