Posted January 25, 2017 This will no doubt degrade very rapidly but why is this usually such a polarizing topic? They're both companies that make graphics cards that are fairly comparable, are one of their business practices really that bad/good? Or do people want to feel justified in what they purchased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted January 25, 2017 its not that, its just green team masterrace..... jokes. i dont know why people make such a big deal out of it sometimes. IMO amd is some more budget oriented than Nvidia, whilst still packing great performance. Current Build: CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K at 4.8Ghz CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 AIO Motherboard: gigabyte Z270X ultra gaming Memory: Trident Z rgb 16gb 3000MhzStorage: Samsung 250GB SSD Storage2: sandisk ultra II 960gb SSD Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 O8G STRIX Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 Power Supply: Corsair RM650X Fans: 2x 120mm NZXT Aer rgb LEDcontroller: NZXT Hue+ LEDstrip: cablemod hybrid-LED/UV 60Cm peripherals: Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow X Chroma Gamepad: Razer Tartarus Mouse: Razer Mamba TE 2015 Chroma Headphones: Logitech G533 Wireless Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM Monitor1: AOC Q2577PWQ 2560X1440 OC'ed to 75 Hz Monitor2: LG 25UM57-P 25.0" 2560x1080 OC'ed to 75Hz PCpartpicker list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qt76xY My laptop: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-VN7-571G-50VG-Notebook-Computer-i5-5200U/dp/B01CL50JV6 Quote: If you really want it, go get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said: This will no doubt degrade very rapidly but why is this usually such a polarizing topic? 1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said: fanboys ^ 5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said: They're both companies that make graphics cards that are fairly comparable Exactly. =) 5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said: are one of their business practices really that bad/good? Nope. One is just better at selling themselves. 5 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said: Or do people want to feel justified in what they purchased? That and people have massive egos when they're behind a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, TommyW2061 said: IMO amd is some more budget oriented than Nvidia, whilst still packing great performance. That's not an opinion, that's a fact, Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, GenialGiraffe said: This will no doubt degrade very rapidly but why is this usually such a polarizing topic? They're both companies that make graphics cards that are fairly comparable, are one of their business practices really that bad/good? Or do people want to feel justified in what they purchased? I've also been wondering this to be honest. I don't understand why some people hate one side over the other. I used to have a gtx 960 (which i paid £180 for in 2015) but recently switched to an r9 fury (which i paid £275 for last November) not because i think AMD is better than Nvidia. I think that both companies make good GPUs but i'm not going to specifically chose one company over the other, if i need a new GPU i'll just look for the best price to performance i can get at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 AMD has driver issues (don't deny it) and Nvidia has dumb proprietary tech (GSync anyone?) Depending on what you do or what games you play, buy accordingly. I'm currently using a GTX 1060 because I work too much to game as much as I'd like. I did have an RX480 before that was rma'd due to AMD having awful driver support for older openGL stuff. Ignore fanboys and buy what's best for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 I just go with the best bang for buck. Right now, that means the RX480 4GB as compared to the GTX1070. I've had great cards from both lineups in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 I think we shall be watching this thread quite closely.. Just an advanced notice, could we please keep this thread civil and organised? USEFUL LINKS: PSU Tier List | F@H stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said: fanboys That there... TRIGGERED! My profile... HERE Join the Disqussions... https://disqus.com/home/channel/techinquisition/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted January 25, 2017 I think we can all agree that Intel makes the best GPUs! My main computer: i7 6700k || GTX 1070 || Asus Z170 RGB || C.M. Hyper 212 EVO || 16GB RAM || 256GB NVMe SSD || 500GB SATA SSD || 12TB total HDD || Define R5 Blackout || 850W PSU More Details Below Spoiler | CPU: Intel Core i7 6700k | GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 FTW | Motherboard: Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Aura| CPU Cooler: C.M. Hyper 212 EVO | RAM: 16GB Kingston Fury 4x4 DDR4 2400MHz | SSD: Intel 256GB NVMe SSD & Plextor 500GB SATA SSD | Hard Drive: WD 2TB Black, 2TB WD Blue, 8TB WD Red | Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition | PSU: Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 850W | Additional Computer Parts: NZXT Hue for LEDs | Peripherals: Dell U2414H (x2) || Corsair Sabre RGB || Corsair K95 Platinum || Sennheiser 558's || Modmic Pictures of setup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, njmyers3 said: I think we can all agree that Intel makes the best GPUs! That's not a GPU. "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out." - Carl Sagan. "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" - Edward I. Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 43 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said: That's not a GPU. I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan. My main computer: i7 6700k || GTX 1070 || Asus Z170 RGB || C.M. Hyper 212 EVO || 16GB RAM || 256GB NVMe SSD || 500GB SATA SSD || 12TB total HDD || Define R5 Blackout || 850W PSU More Details Below Spoiler | CPU: Intel Core i7 6700k | GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 FTW | Motherboard: Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Aura| CPU Cooler: C.M. Hyper 212 EVO | RAM: 16GB Kingston Fury 4x4 DDR4 2400MHz | SSD: Intel 256GB NVMe SSD & Plextor 500GB SATA SSD | Hard Drive: WD 2TB Black, 2TB WD Blue, 8TB WD Red | Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition | PSU: Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 850W | Additional Computer Parts: NZXT Hue for LEDs | Peripherals: Dell U2414H (x2) || Corsair Sabre RGB || Corsair K95 Platinum || Sennheiser 558's || Modmic Pictures of setup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, njmyers3 said: I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan. It's probably a compute card, like NVIDIA's Tesla series. "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out." - Carl Sagan. "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" - Edward I. Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, njmyers3 said: I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan. 4 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said: It's probably a compute card, like NVIDIA's Tesla series. I don't know how accurate it is, but this came up with the image in google http://gizmodo.com/intel-plans-to-put-its-insane-8-teraflop-supercomputer-1742966590 edit: maybe better, looks like a xeon phi http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/12/intel_xeon_phi_coprocessor_launch/ LTT Community Standards Welcome!-A quick guide for new members to LTT Man's Machine- i7-7700k@5.0GHz / Asus M8H / GTX 1080Ti / 4x4gb Gskill 3000 CL15 / Custom loop / 240gb Intel SSD / 3tb HDD / Corsair RM1000x / Dell S2716DG The Lady's Rig- G3258@4.4GHz(1.39v) on Hyper 212 / Gigabyte GA-B85M / gtx750 / 8gb PNY xlr8 / 500gb seagate HDD / CS 450M / Asus PB277Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 Author 4 hours ago, Mooshi said: AMD has driver issues (don't deny it) and Nvidia has dumb proprietary tech (GSync anyone?) Depending on what you do or what games you play, buy accordingly. I'm currently using a GTX 1060 because I work too much to game as much as I'd like. I did have an RX480 before that was rma'd due to AMD having awful driver support for older openGL stuff. Ignore fanboys and buy what's best for you. To me it seems that AMD is slow on getting drivers that use their tech properly and Nvidia offers solid performance day one and up (I have an RX 480 so i dont know what Nvidia's drivers are like). Despite that AMD seems to be more consumer and developer friendly when it comes to freesync and opensource stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted January 25, 2017 6 hours ago, 0ld_Chicken said: I don't know how accurate it is, but this came up with the image in google http://gizmodo.com/intel-plans-to-put-its-insane-8-teraflop-supercomputer-1742966590 edit: maybe better, looks like a xeon phi http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/12/intel_xeon_phi_coprocessor_launch/ 6 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said: It's probably a compute card, like NVIDIA's Tesla series. 6 hours ago, njmyers3 said: I couldn't find a picture of the really old one that they made this is close enough. It's like a stock RX480 with a skin. What is is really though? I can't imagine an SSD would need a fan. It's a Xeon Phi (no display outputs), probably the 7120P (61 cores, 244 threads). USEFUL LINKS: PSU Tier List | F@H stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 9 hours ago, TheRandomness said: I think we shall be watching this thread quite closely.. Just an advanced notice, could we please keep this thread civil and organised? It's funny how we both already know that if this thread gets more popular and the discussion is longer, it's gonna get closed eventually 9 hours ago, Mooshi said: AMD has driver issues (don't deny it) Same goes for Nvidia atm. Actually, nowadays there are more issues with Nvidia drivers, although in that regard both companies are comparable. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB GDDR6 Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION AIO: Corsair H150i Pro RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic PSU: Corsair RM850x White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 9 hours ago, djdwosk97 said: fanboys The second syllable is what is relevant here - most of the nonsense posted re this issue (and other polarizing issues online) come from teenage boys who are (generally) ill-informed. But worse than that, being online means that there is no real comeback to anything they post, so all their small-mindedness, pettiness and viciousness comes out without the normal repercussions of face to face interactions. It's just another type of bullying - as reprehensible as all bullying is. Love not hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, Morgan MLGman said: It's funny how we both already know that if this thread gets more popular and the discussion is longer, it's gonna get closed eventually Same goes for Nvidia atm. Actually, nowadays there are more issues with Nvidia drivers, although in that regard both companies are comparable. I'd argue that no Nvidia driver could give some graphics cards more issues than they already have (story of my GTX 970; it can't do a 50MHz OC with a 12% power increase, it puts out as much heat as a 290X and runs louder+almost as hot with a clean heatink+loads of airflow, half the vRAM is needlessly on the back without thermal pads for the backplate, and its apparently binned for overclocking). "We also blind small animals with cosmetics. We do not sell cosmetics. We just blind animals." "Please don't mistake us for Equifax. Those fuckers are evil" This PSA brought to you by Equifacks. PMSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dabombinable said: I'd argue that no Nvidia driver could give some graphics cards more issues than they already have (story of my GTX 970; it can't do a 50MHz OC with a 12% power increase, it puts out as much heat as a 290X and runs louder+almost as hot with a clean heatink+loads of airflow, half the vRAM is needlessly on the back without thermal pads for the backplate, and its apparently binned for overclocking). I honestly were with Nvidia for a long time until I got my 290X and I upgraded to an R9 Fury because their drivers in the past 1,5 year gave me MUCH less issues, now that they have ReLive it's even better cause it's really super-good, extremely easy to set up and works as it should. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB GDDR6 Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION AIO: Corsair H150i Pro RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic PSU: Corsair RM850x White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, Morgan MLGman said: I honestly were with Nvidia for a long time until I got my 290X and I upgraded to an R9 Fury because their drivers in the past 1,5 year gave me MUCH less issues, now that they have ReLive it's even better cause it's really super-good, extremely easy to set up and works as it should. AMD's 2010 for-OEM-driver did well with my old laptop, slightly lower DX performance than Catalyst 15.7 drivers yes. But the 2010 drivers were far lighter, more stable and had far greater OpenGL performance (but no OpenCL support). That laptop consumed under 700MB of RAM with the 2010 drivers and Windows 7 Pro 64bit, as opposed to 1.2GB with Catalyst 15.7 "We also blind small animals with cosmetics. We do not sell cosmetics. We just blind animals." "Please don't mistake us for Equifax. Those fuckers are evil" This PSA brought to you by Equifacks. PMSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2017 Author This conversation has been pretty civil, so thank you for that. One question, how important is power efficiency in the real world? Like, say the difference between the RX 480 amd the GTX 1060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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