Will getting faster RAM in my scenario help with performance?

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, Majestic said:

That is with Kaby Lake/Skylake architecture though. Not refuting outright, but have something similar for Trinity?

 

Title said a specific scenario, which is what exactly?

There are older videos but it's a ginormous pain to find them. Honestly I use that video because they address the impact of faster RAM on current generational platforms. 

[PSUGuru]

5 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

That will happen with any CPU. Faster memory helps relieve potential CPU bottlenecks. Just don't expect it to work a miracle. 

 

Well at that point I would save up for a totally new motherboard/CPU to be frank.

 

 

The board isn't bad, but it is dated. I plan to replace some of its hardware(https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qYwZqk). Not going to bother changing the CPU. Not needed. I am going to replace this computer entirely with my 3000$ one and hand this PC down to my sister, who games a lot less than I. Hence why I amn't replacing the CPU.

[LabRat]

going from DDR3 1600 ( 800 ) to DDR3 1866 won't do much good at all.

buy another 8gig stick and drop the 4gig stick.

[xentropa]

Faster RAM helps.

 

Overclocking RAM doesn't.

[Princess Luna]

RAM Frequency Speed was meaningless until Skylake and Kaby Lake come around, now they do effect somewhat the performance but anything ddr4 will do the job just fine be it  2133 or 3000, the impact has increased however just like someone said don't expect a miracle.

[App4that]

10 minutes ago, xentropa said:

Faster RAM helps.

 

Overclocking RAM doesn't.

Wut?

 

9 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

RAM Frequency Speed was meaningless until Skylake and Kaby Lake come around, now they do effect somewhat the performance but anything ddr4 will do the job just fine be it  2133 or 3000, the impact has increased however just like someone said don't expect a miracle.

Flat out wrong. I can tell you through seeing what others have done and my own experiments that's not true. Any architecture benefits from faster RAM speeds. 

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

Wut?

 

Flat out wrong. I can tell you through seeing what others have done and my own experiments that's not true. Any architecture benefits from faster RAM speeds. 

ok

[App4that]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

ok

 

So you saw the title to the topic and ran right past this...

 

32 minutes ago, LeStringMan said:

Linus tech tips. Linus tech tips never changes. 

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

So you saw the title to the topic and ran right past this...

 

Linus tech tips. Linus tech tips never changes. 

LTT has changed. Has it?

[App4that]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

LTT has changed. Has it?

Not in the time I've spent here. But Bro, the reference. Are you with me ARikozuM (another reference)

[LabRat]

go to digitalfoundry and look at the cpu benchmarks and listen to what he says about certain cpu's and different ram speeds. unfortunately he doesn't say anything about the APU. .... .......... which from experience does benefit from faster ram WHEN you are using the on die graphics. with a graphics card installed it's pretty much meaningless.

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

Not in the time I've spent here. But Bro, the reference. Are you with me ARikozuM (another reference)

I think you're referencing Fallout 3. I'm referring to Bulletstorm's parody. 

 

But, yes. I'm with you in referencing the world to death... b/c war has changed to a comedy skit... then again, there was that one guy with the mustache...

[xentropa]

3 hours ago, App4that said:

Wut?

It depends how the RAM is physically constructed.

 

There are some slight variations to how each company makes their ram, the most important one being the physical size and capacitance of the individual data cells.  The tradeoff being slightly lower capacitance cells can read write faster but will consume greater power and require more refreshing while greater capacitance will exhibit the opposite.   

 

This capacitance cant be changed which gives it much less headroom for overclocking compared to a cpu.  Even if you do increase the dram clock speed, the ram timings would probably have to be adjusted to compensate the fact that the dram cells will still have an unchangeable latency due to their construction method.

[App4that]

2 minutes ago, xentropa said:

It depends how the RAM is physically constructed.

 

There are some slight variations to how each company makes their ram, the most important one being the physical size and capacitance of the individual data cells.  The tradeoff being slightly lower capacitance cells can read write faster but will consume greater power and require more refreshing while greater capacitance will exhibit the opposite.   

 

This capacitance cant be changed which gives it much less headroom for overclocking compared to a cpu.  Even if you do increase the dram clock speed, the ram timings would probably have to be adjusted to compensate the fact that the dram cells will still have an unchangeable latency due to their construction method.

Ah, thank you. Sorry that I had to check.

 

I always adjust my timings. Completely agree on the headroom, and that doesn't always translate to performance.