What's the chances Ryzen beat the 7700k at gaming?

[DELTAprime]

Ok, crystal ball time.

 

Gaming is still the domain of high clocks and IPC, not so much core counts. We have seen "leaked reviews" of the 7700k and just like it's predecessor the 6700k it appears to be the best money is no object option for a gaming CPU beating out even the much more expensive 6950x.

 

So I was wondering, how many of you think AMD with all their promises around Ryzen will be able to pull off a coup and have Ryzen (any SKU, not just the 8C 16T version that's been shown off) scale well enough to be able to take on the 7700k at gaming?

[SCHISCHKA]

i like jetpacks. amd does not make jetpacks

[Litargirio]

Why ask stupid queations that NOBODY can answer when reviewer benchmarks are just around the corner?

 

This has already been beaten to death many times.

 

The answer is maybe.

[HKZeroFive]

I find it strange that you've only presented the two extremes as the only options for your poll. Ryzen doesn't have to beat Intel's i7 7700K to be a competitive product.

 

As pointed out already, speculating is pointless when the product's launch is virtually around the corner. Wait for the benchmarks and then you'll have the definitive answer to your question.

[Taja]

I heard from a reliable source that the chance of this happening is between 0 and 100%.

[JJS76]

4 hours ago, Litargirio said:

Why ask stupid queations that NOBODY can answer when reviewer benchmarks are just around the corner?

 

This has already been beaten to death many times.

 

The answer is maybe.

Hell no is the answer. Have you seen any benchmarks lately? Expect broadwell performance, which is good, but skylake and kabylake, which is basically the same thing, is way faster for single core speed.

 

4 hours ago, Kumaresh said:

Given that a Ryzen CPU was good enough to be paired with a graphics card which is probably stronger than the GTX 1080, It should handily beat or at least match the 7700k in gaming.

Prediction

Unless you pair the 7700k with the Vegas card, then it beats Ryzen with Vegas. Thus 7700k is better. 

[Godlygamer23]

The second option in your poll I don't really like. Just because it doesn't "beat" the 7700K doesn't mean it can't compete with it. That is to say, it may not beat it, but it may be very very close to it.

[Litargirio]

13 minutes ago, JJS76 said:

Hell no is the answer. Have you seen any benchmarks lately? Expect broadwell performance, which is good, but skylake and kabylake, which is basically the same thing, is way faster for single core speed.

A 4-core with HT vs a marginally slower 8-core with SMT? I'd take the latter any time.

[lindsay24]

Whether AMD beats the 7700k or not is only half the story.

 

Say the 7700k beats the new RyZen flagship CPU. Great, no one will be surprised. But what might be interesting is if AMD comes close to Intel's performance, and manages to undercut their price. AMD has done a pretty good job at targeting budget PC builders for a while now. My prediction for RyZen is we'll see last-gen i7 performance, at the price of an i5. Which is fantastic news for gamers. I think it's pretty well accepted that a current-gen i7 is NOT needed for gaming, and saving money on a decent CPU means more money spent on a GPU, which is what matters the most in a system, at least for gaming.

 

Video production is a whole different animal and that might be who Intel is going to target post RyZen launch.
Either way, this launch is going to shake up the market.

[Phentos]

I personally think that the 7700K will beat Ryzen in single-core performance. But at the end of the day, the 7700K is a quad core CPU. We've been on quad core for about a decade now. With every passing year, more and more applications (games included) are demanding more and more threads. In overall performance, the 8 core Ryzen CPU will probably narrowly beat the 7700K. 

 

In my opinion, AMD should release a 6 core SKU with high clocks, targeting the 7700K. 

 

For me, I'm planning an enthusiast build next year. Skylake-E 6-8 core or Ryzen are on my radar. If Ryzen doesn't live up (has to come within 5% of the 6900K in overall, and 5-10% of the 7700K in single core), then Skylake-E I go. I need the cores for my workloads. 

[JJS76]

23 hours ago, Litargirio said:

A 4-core with HT vs a marginally slower 8-core with SMT? I'd take the latter any time.

We're talking purely gaming here, so 7700k all the way 

[NumLock21]

Ryzen main competitor is Broadwell-E, not your 7700k.

[staubgame]

There's been a leak showing the gaming performance of Ryzen to be around that of a i6-6600k. So, no. Won't beat it
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-review-leaked/
 

When it comes to rendering however, it will be strong. (ofc, 8C/16T gotta do something)

So for a streamer/youtuber it could actually be interessting. The interessting part will be the price as it's main trade of is time saving vs performance with gaming/rendering.

[sazrocks]

2 hours ago, staubgame said:

There's been a leak showing the gaming performance of Ryzen to be around that of a i6-6600k. So, no. Won't beat it
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-review-leaked/
 

When it comes to rendering however, it will be strong. (ofc, 8C/16T gotta do something)

So for a streamer/youtuber it could actually be interessting. The interessting part will be the price as it's main trade of is time saving vs performance with gaming/rendering.

Woah, a 4 core running at 3.9 GHz beats an 8 core running at 3.3GHz in gaming! No way!

/s

 

But seriously, given how close they are, it seems to me that, clock for clock, Ryzen is better than skylake in single core performance (gaming).

 

However it's really not worth it to debate this until we get actual benchmarks of retail CPUs from reputable outlets.