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i3 6100 or i5 6400?

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Hi everyone

Im currently faced with a problem of choosing my first CPU for my build. I intend to use this for gaming purposes. I noticed that the i3 has a much smaller price than the i5 and 3.7 Ghz which is very admirable over the i5. The i5 however has 2 extra cores but has 2.7 Ghz and is more expensive. Is the extra 2 cores really worth it for the reduced frequency? Overall im looking for bang for my buck. I could also take the i5 6500 but then I would have to sacrifice buying a 4gb GTX 1060 GPU for a 1050 Ti. Please Help me!!!

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The 6400 would be the better option. Some games are now refusing to load if you have less than a quadcore, and the i5 is more capable for (even light) multitasking.

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5 minutes ago, Turtleloverdyl said:

Hi everyone

Im currently faced with a problem of choosing my first CPU for my build. I intend to use this for gaming purposes. I noticed that the i3 has a much smaller price than the i5 and 3.7 Ghz which is very admirable over the i5. The i5 however has 2 extra cores but has 2.7 Ghz and is more expensive. Is the extra 2 cores really worth it for the reduced frequency? Overall im looking for bang for my buck. I could also take the i5 6500 but then I would have to sacrifice buying a 4gb GTX 1060 GPU for a 1050 Ti. Please Help me!!!

I3 6100 will bottleneck 1060 in CPU Intensive games, Like GTA V, Battlefield 1 and ect. I would get i5 6500 and 1060, but if you can't do it 6400 is fine aswell, sure you won't use full power of 1060, but surely its better CPU.

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I would definitely say that you should go for the i5-6500, many games are starting to stop support for dual core processors, meaning that your i3 simply won't be able to run games. The i5-6500 is also much better than the i5-6400 because that there's an extra 500mhz (I know it doesn't work like that) per core for an extra $20. I'd honestly save up a few days longer and get the i5-6500 and a 1060. 

Also there are no 4gb 1060's so I'm assuming you mean 3gb. 

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This is a difficult question. I would personally go for the 6500. Two cores is not enough anymore imho, and the 6400 has significantly worse single thread performance compared to both the 6100 and the 6500. 

Personally, I think that a cpu is something that you usually keep a while and thus spending a bit more to get something decent is never a bad idea. Also, there is no 1060 4gb

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Also if you turn on Turbo boost you will get 3.3ghz which should be very good for gaming.

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1 minute ago, mapegl said:

This is a difficult question. I would personally go for the 6500. Two cores is not enough anymore imho, and the 6400 has significantly worse single thread performance compared to both the 6100 and the 6500. 

Personally, I think that a cpu is something that you usually kepi look me and this spending a bit more to get something decent is never a bad idea. Also, there is no 1060 4gb

What?

It'll be within 1 or 2% of the other two... I wouldn't call that significant.

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29 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

What?

It'll be within 1 or 2% of the other two... I wouldn't call that significant.

I wonder where you get that number. Cpu benchmarks show a 8-12% difference in multi- and single-core tests. Even the tests that would support my claim the least still show a ~5% difference. Just type in i5 6500 vs 6400. There are videos and articles everywhere

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Just now, mapegl said:

I wonder where you get that number. Cpu benchmarks show a 8-12% difference in multi- and single-core tests. Even the tests that would support my claim the least still show a ~5% difference. Just type in i5 6500 vs 6400. There are videos and articles everywhere

The fact that Kaby Lake (a new architecture) has about a 1% improvement due to clock speeds (4.2GHz vs. 4GHz~)...

Meh, if you lock the 6400 to it's full turbo speed (3.3GHz) it'd be about 1-2% off a 6500 at stock. Plus, this translates into very marginal gains in the real world.

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20 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

The fact that Kaby Lake (a new architecture) has about a 1% improvement due to clock speeds (4.2GHz vs. 4GHz~)...

Meh, if you lock the 6400 to it's full turbo speed (3.3GHz) it'd be about 1-2% off a 6500 at stock. Plus, this translates into very marginal gains in the real world.

The comparison with kaby lake is lacking a bit here.... Can't buy it yet and is comparing the specific models of a different architecture.

 

Also, comparing turbo with "stock" does not really make sense. Base clock of the 6500 is 500 MHz faster than 6400, single core boost 300mhz and turbo on all cores is 400mhz faster. additionally, the turbo feature is  basically there at  stock settings, for both. So again, no idea why you made that comparison.

 

To add why I also think the 6500 makes more sense, it will not necessarily yield much higher fps in general, but lower clocked CPUs tend to produce much worse frame dips than higher clocked ones. makes for a much smoother experience. This is easily explained. When a cpu reaches 100% load, the gpu has to wait. The 6500 has some extra speed and thus will still have some performance left after a 6400 would be maxed out.

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2 minutes ago, mapegl said:

The comparison with kaby lake is lacking a bit here.... Can't buy it yet and is comparing the specific models of a different architecture.

 

Also, comparing turbo with "stock" does not really make sense. Base clock of the 6500 is 500 MHz faster than 6400, single core boost 300mhz and turbo on all cores is 400mhz faster. additionally, the turbo feature is  basically has at its stock settings, both do. So again, no idea why you made that comparison.

 

To add why I also think the 6500 makes more sense, it will not necessarily yield much higher fps in general, but lower clocked CPUs tend to produce much worse frame dips than higher clocked ones. makes for a much smoother experience. This is easily explained. When a cpu reaches 100% load, the gpu has to wait. The 6500 has some extra speed and thus will still have some performance left after a 6400 would be maxed out.

Fair enough... even when both are stock, the 6500 is only 5% ahead according to userbenchmark, and saving £20 but losing 5% is something I'd call acceptable.

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2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Fair enough... even when both are stock, the 6500 is only 5% ahead according to userbenchmark, and saving £20 but losing 5% is something I'd call acceptable.

Alright. Sorry for being such a pain in the butt, but I want the facts to be correctly presented for the people looking for help.

Your remark at the end is definitely true though. Having £20 or not makes a big difference. 

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Everyone here is leaning towards the i5 dude.

 

Plus, I wouldn't get the 3GB one, 3GB is less than 4GB literally. It'll be an issue once your VRAM usage reaches maximum and your FPS starts to drop...

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i would go the extra for the 6500. contrary to popular belief, the i3 will not bottleneck anything up to a 1060 6gb.

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depends on the game you want to play, but the quad core is going to be, IN GENERAL, better. 

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