Is the Intel 600p m.2 ssd much faster than my Samsung 850 evo?

[kir13y]

I am planning to get another Samsung 850 evo for my laptop but I saw that the Intel 600p was on sale and was considering buying that and moving the 850 evo to my laptop.  It would be cheaper and seems like a great upgrade.  When I looked on SSDbenchmarks.com, the 600p showed slower speeds than the 850 evo... Is that true?

 

My build is below and here is the link to the 600p: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820167412 and the 850 evo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373 

 

What do you think?

[Senzelian]

The 600p of course faster when it comes to sequential writes and reads, as it is a PCI-e SSD, compared to the 850 Evo which still uses the SATA interface.
Your notebook might not support PCI-e over M.2, tho.

[kir13y]

Just now, Senzelian said:

The 600p of course faster when it comes to sequential writes and reads, as it is a PCI-e SSD, compared to the 850 Evo which still uses the SATA interface.
Your notebook might not support PCI-e over M.2, tho.

 

I would put the m.2 ssd in my desktop and move the 850 evo to the laptop.  (I already have one 850 which is currently in my desktop, deciding if I should buy a second for the laptop.)  

If I am just writing a 20GB file and nothing else, will the 600p be faster?

[Senzelian]

1 minute ago, kir13y said:

I would put the m.2 ssd in my desktop and move the 850 evo to the laptop.  (I already have one 850 which is currently in my desktop, deciding if I should buy a second for the laptop.)  

If I am just writing a 20GB file and nothing else, will the 600p be faster?

I haven't compared the two yet and I don't have any benchmarks handy.

But I'm certain that the p600 should be faster, simply because it is a PCI-e drive and uses the NVMe 1.1 protocol. Depending on the size, the 600p can achieve up to 1800MB/s reads and I think I've read somewhere around of up to 700MB/s wirtes in optimal conditions.

But, keep in mind that other drives become the bottleneck. If you move data from another SSD to the P600, then the speed entirely depends on the slower drive.

If the 600p isn't much more expensive than the 850 EVO, then I would get one. Only if the price difference between the two is larger than let's say 50USD, I wouldn't get one.

[Beeeyeee]

5 minutes ago, kir13y said:

I would put the m.2 ssd in my desktop and move the 850 evo to the laptop.  (I already have one 850 which is currently in my desktop, deciding if I should buy a second for the laptop.)  

If I am just writing a 20GB file and nothing else, will the 600p be faster?

the biggest benefit would be the random reads and writes. so basically when you're opening applications, basic browsing around, opening files, etc. the Sequential reads and writes will be improved too but thats for copying and transferring files directly. but yes, its a big upgrade

[kir13y]

1 minute ago, Senzelian said:

I haven't compared the two yet and I don't have any benchmarks handy.

But I'm certain that the p600 should be faster, simply because it is a PCI-e drive and uses the NVMe 1.1 protocol. Depending on the size, the 600p can achieve up to 1800MB/s reads and I think I've read somewhere around of up to 700MB/s wirtes in optimal conditions.

But, keep in mind that other drives become the bottleneck. If you move data from another SSD to the P600, then the speed entirely depends on the slower drive.

If the 600p isn't much more expensive than the 850 EVO, then I would get one. Only if the price difference between the two is larger than let's say 50USD, I wouldn't get one.

 

The M.2 SSD is actually $30 cheaper because its on sale.  Im going to get it.  Thanks for the help!

[Senzelian]

Just now, kir13y said:

The M.2 SSD is actually $30 cheaper because its on sale.  Im going to get it.  Thanks for the help!

Get me one aswell...
Here they are still 40€ more expensive when comparing the 1TB versions

[kir13y]

1 minute ago, Beeeyeee said:

the biggest benefit would be the random reads and writes. so basically when you're opening applications, basic browsing around, opening files, etc. the Sequential reads and writes will be improved too but thats for copying and transferring files directly. but yes, its a big upgrade

 

Ohhhh.  I was wondering what a random read was.  Thanks for the explanation!

[SCHISCHKA]

I have not yet seen a bench mark that motivates me to move off my Sata SSD.

[kir13y]

Just now, SCHISCHKA said:

I have not yet seen a bench mark that motivates me to move off my Sata SSD.

But its cheaper to get the M.2 ssd and I was going to buy another 850 evo so, I might as well get better performance and save some $

[Senzelian]

Just now, SCHISCHKA said:

I have not yet seen a bench mark that motivates me to move off my Sata SSD.

Benchmarks aren't the problem.
The price is.

NVMe PCI-e SSDs are just crazy fast even easier to install than 2.5'' SSDs, simply because there aren't any cables involved, but the price is just too damn high still.

I'm running three 850 Evos myself and I would love to get my hands on a 1TB PCI-e M.2.

[SCHISCHKA]

1 minute ago, kir13y said:

But its cheaper to get the M.2 ssd and I was going to buy another 850 evo so, I might as well get better performance and save some $

yes go for it. you also save your self running a sata cable. let me know if you find it faster or not at all

[SCHISCHKA]

11 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Benchmarks aren't the problem.
The price is.

NVMe PCI-e SSDs are just crazy fast even easier to install than 2.5'' SSDs, simply because there aren't any cables involved, but the price is just too damn high still.

I'm running three 850 Evos myself and I would love to get my hands on a 1TB PCI-e M.2.

yes price needs to justify performance and I have not yet seen a convincing test. There are some cases where PCIe is very close in price to Sata SSD if you go for the higher quality ones with 5-year warranty.