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Are there any companies that are willing to custom make a waterblock? It will obviously cost a bit and will take some time. Otherwise I am going to venture doing it myself. 

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Are there any companies that are willing to custom make a waterblock? It will obviously cost a bit and will take some time. Otherwise I am going to venture doing it myself. 

Just make the top yourself and use the base and gasket and the mounts from a storebought block.

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There are companies that can CNC a custom block for you if you design it.

Or you can pay EKWB like $1000 and they will probably make you one.

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6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Are there any companies that are willing to custom make a waterblock? It will obviously cost a bit and will take some time. Otherwise I am going to venture doing it myself. 

If you have a Solidworks/CAM model you can bring it to a machine shop and they price it out and do it all for you. 

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30 minutes ago, Enderman said:

There are companies that can CNC a custom block for you if you design it.

Or you can pay EKWB like $1000 and they will probably make you one.

 

27 minutes ago, W-L said:

If you have a Solidworks/CAM model you can bring it to a machine shop and they price it out and do it all for you. 

Well there is a local Maker Space that has a bunch of high end CNCs and mills that would allow me to do this. I have been studying EKs blocks and they don't seem too extreme of a thing to make but the measurements have to be exact. Also where could I get custom gasket lengths? One last thing would solid copper be the best material? 

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

 

Well there is a local Maker Space that has a bunch of high end CNCs and mills that would allow me to do this. I have been studying EKs blocks and they don't seem too extreme of a thing to make but the measurements have to be exact. Also where could I get custom gasket lengths? One last thing would solid copper be the best material? 

In terms of heat transfer and being a good option for fluid contact would be copper, next being brass. As for gaskets you can get o-ring cord and cut and splice to length any custom size, EDPM is ideal for that. My only concern with machining your own block is tooling you'll need because the fin array since it's so thin being only around say 0.010" - 0.020" or so between the fins.

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1 hour ago, W-L said:

In terms of heat transfer and being a good option for fluid contact would be copper, next being brass. As for gaskets you can get o-ring cord and cut and splice to length any custom size, EDPM is ideal for that. My only concern with machining your own block is tooling you'll need because the fin array since it's so thin being only around say 0.010" - 0.020" or so between the fins.

Is there any point of diminishing returns with fin spacing? I assume no because more surface area. Also will copper react with Nickel or degrade tubing? I know most rads are copper core so I don't think it should be an issue.

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Is there any point of diminishing returns with fin spacing? I assume no because more surface area. Also will copper react with Nickel or degrade tubing? I know most rads are copper core so I don't think it should be an issue.

I'm quite certain there would be a way to calculate that as the cross sectional of those individual fins get thinner it would be less effective at a certain point, but in very general terms the more fins the more potential surface area of heat transfer. As for metals copper, brass, and nickel are all very compatible with each other without any issues. 

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Just now, W-L said:

I'm quite certain there would be a way to calculate that as the cross sectional of those individual fins get thinner it would be less effective at a certain point, but in very general terms the more fins the more potential surface area of heat transfer. As for metals copper, brass, and nickel are all very compatible with each other without any issues. 

The final question I haven't found the solution for is the inlets and outlets on top of the block. It is a different piece so does it have a gasket and how exactly is it mounted to the top of the card. Looks like screws but the wrong way. 

FC-Titan-X_NP_fit1_1200(2).jpgAlso what way does the water flow as the fins seems to be vertical when in my mind horizontal makes more sense? Thanks!

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8 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

The final question I haven't found the solution for is the inlets and outlets on top of the block. It is a different piece so does it have a gasket and how exactly is it mounted to the top of the card. Looks like screws but the wrong way. Also what way does the water flow as the fins seems to be vertical when in my mind horizontal makes more sense? Thanks!

Ah yes that black block is made of delrin they seal using o-rings inside of a groove, similar to the top and bottom copper(nickel) block, and bolt through the black derlin directly into tapped threads of the acrylic, One thing to note it must not be over tightened or it can potentially crack the acrylic, delrin is less prone to this occurrence. For the waterflow if we were for example to have in inlet on the left will flow into the center of the fin array and out both the top and bottom section, through the jet plate and in a CPU waterblock plastic baffles, from my understanding they usually help to distribute flow through all the fins and direct it especially for CPU's as different sockets have larger or smaller dies under the heat spreader. That is less of a concern on a GPU block as it's a bare die. 

 

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3 hours ago, W-L said:

If you have a Solidworks/CAM model you can bring it to a machine shop and they price it out and do it all for you. 

1 hour ago, W-L said:

In terms of heat transfer and being a good option for fluid contact would be copper, next being brass. As for gaskets you can get o-ring cord and cut and splice to length any custom size, EDPM is ideal for that. My only concern with machining your own block is tooling you'll need because the fin array since it's so thin being only around say 0.010" - 0.020" or so between the fins.

Be careful with pricing though. For instance, here in the US CNC fabrication for non-production parts would cost you upward of $150/hr on a CNC Mill, but for micro-fins you would need to get a wire EDM Machine, which pricewise can go upward of $500/hr due to the way the machines work (de ionized water, and wire) and paying for liability etc. they also go at an extremely slow rate (again because of the way they work). Wire EDM Machines also will not be found at just any machine shop due to their starting price of ~$1.5M and operating cost in water, electricity, filter, and wire of ~$150-250 per hour.

 

 

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23 hours ago, W-L said:

Ah yes that black block is made of delrin they seal using o-rings inside of a groove, similar to the top and bottom copper(nickel) block, and bolt through the black derlin directly into tapped threads of the acrylic, One thing to note it must not be over tightened or it can potentially crack the acrylic, delrin is less prone to this occurrence. For the waterflow if we were for example to have in inlet on the left will flow into the center of the fin array and out both the top and bottom section, through the jet plate and in a CPU waterblock plastic baffles, from my understanding they usually help to distribute flow through all the fins and direct it especially for CPU's as different sockets have larger or smaller dies under the heat spreader. That is less of a concern on a GPU block as it's a bare die. 

 

 

 

22 hours ago, Qwweb said:

Be careful with pricing though. For instance, here in the US CNC fabrication for non-production parts would cost you upward of $150/hr on a CNC Mill, but for micro-fins you would need to get a wire EDM Machine, which pricewise can go upward of $500/hr due to the way the machines work (de ionized water, and wire) and paying for liability etc. they also go at an extremely slow rate (again because of the way they work). Wire EDM Machines also will not be found at just any machine shop due to their starting price of ~$1.5M and operating cost in water, electricity, filter, and wire of ~$150-250 per hour.

 

 

The local Maker Space can only go to .175in which is small but nowhere near .01in. I looked up other people's custom blocks and someone had made one for a GTX480 and the fin spacing was probably .3in each or greater. About 5 fins in total, but still lowered the cards temperatures massively. Here are some pin design heatsinks with the smallest spacing they have. I think it would work maybe not as well as EK but with enough water flow it might be only a few degrees off. What do you guys think?

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3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

The local Maker Space can only go to .175in which is small but nowhere near .01in. I looked up other people's custom blocks and someone had made one for a GTX480 and the fin spacing was probably .3in each or greater. About 5 fins in total, but still lowered the cards temperatures massively. Here are some pin design heatsinks with the smallest spacing they have. I think it would work maybe not as well as EK but with enough water flow it might be only a few degrees off. What do you guys think?

It wouldn't be as effective in terms of cooling, if they allow you to bring in tooling you can get some thin kerf slitting saws, as mention you could see if there are some other machine shops that have wire EDM or skiving equipment for cutting fins. 

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4 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

The local Maker Space can only go to .175in which is small but nowhere near .01in. I looked up other people's custom blocks and someone had made one for a GTX480 and the fin spacing was probably .3in each or greater. About 5 fins in total, but still lowered the cards temperatures massively. Here are some pin design heatsinks with the smallest spacing they have. I think it would work maybe not as well as EK but with enough water flow it might be only a few degrees off. What do you guys think?

What are the expected thermals for the card you are using this on? The fin density would most likely be enough to cool a card, but not enough to support overclocks, the fins are extremely wide. The wider the fins, the less efficient they they are at drawing heat away and dissipating it. This is another reason for the thinner fins found on most air-cooled heat sinks as well as waterblocks. Using Bernoulli's principle you increase the speed of the fluid and as the velocity increases the potential energy decreases (increasing with the heat given off by the component and dissipated by the radiator). The more bottlenecked you can make the loop (assuming your pump can provide enough pressure) the higher you can increase the velocity and the lower you can get the potential energy therefore taking heat away more efficiently. Temps would also be way more than "a few degrees off."

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the idea of the cooling is as much surface area of the block to transfer the heat to the coolant without restriction of the coolant flow.

the micro-channels being so thin and in a large number relieves the back-pressure, but also a consideration to the amount of space you are dealing in.

yes, there are points of diminishing returns. earlier in block tech, the pin array was easiest to start with, but spacing got too wide and smaller and smaller designs became the 'new kid' then the fin array was born.

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