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Is This A Thing?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I was working on my VPN today and thinking about Hillary and internet censorship. Which made me think of Tor. So is it possible to have one PC route all traffic to another, on the same network who then sends it to your VPS with OpenVPN. The second PC would have a spoofed MAC address and IP address, and would be encrypting all the data from your other PC. So if someone was to say have a backdoor built into OpenVPN, *cough* NSA, then they would see the second PC with a random IP in russia and after that it stops. 

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2 minutes ago, CUDA_Cores said:

With all that data encrypting and pushing data back and forth, might as well use a typewriter at that point since latency would be absolute garbage.

The VPN part would be fast and the other encryption would be all local. Would be faster then Tor which is about as fast as my old internet. 

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Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

I'm sure that could be a thing, but it sure doesn't sound easy to set up.

What do I have to loose. I will dig deeper.

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29 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

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These guys can crack TOR and pretty much any other encryption that has hardware acceleration. FBI loves criminals using TOR because they can identify TOR traffic and they have the ability to track users.

 

Using your VPN all of your data will go straight to Europe so i dont get what the second computer is for. They will still be able to track you using cookies

 

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18 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

These guys can crack TOR and pretty much any other encryption that has hardware acceleration. FBI loves criminals using TOR because they can identify TOR traffic and they have the ability to track users.

 

Using your VPN all of your data will go straight to Europe so i dont get what the second computer is for. They will still be able to track you using cookies

 

The second one is a buffer from the first. It would make more sense if it was on another network. Then it would be sorta like my own Tor network.

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4 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

The second one is a buffer from the first. It would make more sense if it was on another network. Then it would be sorta like my own Tor network.

i dont know what you would gain if they are connected to an ISP with an account under your name and linked to your bank account or credit cards. Iv thought about something similar but using pre paid mobile burner phones. looking for something can pay anonymously with cash

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5 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

i dont know what you would gain if they are connected to an ISP with an account under your name and linked to your bank account or credit cards. Iv thought about something similar but using pre paid mobile burner phones. looking for something can pay anonymously with cash

Yeah I have always thought about this. People think using a VPS with OpenVPN is the answer because no logs and so on but they see an IP. Look it up see the company ask who is renting that IP and I assume any company when asked by the FBI will always answer yes then boom credit card, name, address, and the whole thing was pointless. 

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i cant remember the name of it but there are a few projects with the aim of having wireless routers in a neighbourhood form a network that is not under control of the telcos and government

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15 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Yeah I have always thought about this. People think using a VPS with OpenVPN is the answer because no logs and so on but they see an IP. Look it up see the company ask who is renting that IP and I assume any company when asked by the FBI will always answer yes then boom credit card, name, address, and the whole thing was pointless. 

That's why you need a shared VPN, so that IP is being used by like 20 people at once, and hopefully if the VPN provider doesn't lie about no logs, they cant tell what one is you.

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22 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Yeah I have always thought about this. People think using a VPS with OpenVPN is the answer because no logs and so on but they see an IP. Look it up see the company ask who is renting that IP and I assume any company when asked by the FBI will always answer yes then boom credit card, name, address, and the whole thing was pointless. 

But that's what "no logs" means: they can't answer even if they want to, because there is no register of who had the IP at that moment.

Of course, that requires A) a VPN provider in a "no log" country (i.e., where they are not required by law to keep logs for a given amount of time), and B) that said provider fulfills its "no logging" promise (although as long as it's located in a no-log country it can always reply it doesn't keep logs, even if does, I guess).

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