Friend Upgrading From AMD APU to GPU

[Emberstone]

My friend is upgrading to a GTX 1050 Ti from integrated graphics onboard his AMD A6 3650. I've never dealt with installing over an APU, so how does one go about doing that specifically so I don't lead him wrong? Do you simply run DDU, reconnect monitors to the GPU rather than the mobo, then install the new graphics card as normal? Or is there something in the BIOS that has to be disabled as well? We don't live anywhere near each other, so I can't check this for him.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Put the new gpu in. 

 

Your good. Windows 8+ will auto install gpu drivers. You don't need to remove the old ones.

[Beeeyeee]

just put the new GPU in and pretend there was never integrated graphics. just make sure you plug in the display cable to the card instead of the motherboard.

[Anir]

Install the GPU in the PCIe slot of the motherboard, if the motherboard is too old then there are chances you might need to switch graphics from on board to dedicated if not detected automatically in bios, be sure to connect monitor to the dedicated GPU connector, uninstall the old AMD catalyst driver, DDU not required as AMD driver won't affect nvdia GPU in any way, install latest nvdia driver for gtx 1050ti, and enjoy :-)

[kokakolia]

...You still have to plug your monitor into the graphics card 

 

Other than that...it's that easy!

[Emberstone]

Just now, Emberstone said:

My friend is upgrading to a GTX 1050 Ti from integrated graphics onboard his AMD A6 3650. I've never dealt with installing over an APU, so how does one go about doing that specifically so I don't lead him wrong? Do you simply run DDU, reconnect monitors to the GPU rather than the mobo, then install the new graphics card as normal? Or is there something in the BIOS that has to be disabled as well? We don't live anywhere near each other, so I can't check this for him.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

 

 

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Put the new gpu in. 

 

Your good. Windows 8+ will auto install gpu drivers. You don't need to remove the old ones.

 

Just now, Beeeyeee said:

just put the new GPU in and pretend there was never integrated graphics. just make sure you plug in the display cable to the card instead of the motherboard.

 

Just now, Anir said:

Install the GPU in the PCIe slot do the motherboard, if the motherboard is too old then there are chances you might need to switch graphics from on board to dedicated if not detected automatically in bios, be sure to connect monitor to the dedicated GPU connector, uninstall the old AMD catalyst driver, DDU not required as AMD driver won't affect nvdia GPU in any way, install latest nvdia driver for gtx 1050ti, and enjoy :-)

 

Just now, kokakolia said:

...You still have to plug your monitor into the graphics card 

 

Other than that...it's that easy!

Thanks for the replies folks. Just making sure there wasn't any wizardry in dealing with these things.

[Dabombinable]

8 minutes ago, Emberstone said:

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the replies folks. Just making sure there wasn't any wizardry in dealing with these things.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to get your friend to overclock the APU's CPU either, because it will bottleneck the 1050ti (main thing that will be noticed, games will stutter and at times be barely playable despite the maximum and average fps).

[Emberstone]

Just now, Dabombinable said:

It wouldn't be a bad idea to get your friend to overclock the APU's CPU either, because it will bottleneck the 1050ti (main thing that will be noticed, games will stutter and at times be barely playable despite the maximum and average fps).

He only plays e-sports games for the most part, so we might not need to. If the CPU shows high usage though, I'll see what we can do. However, as I said before I'm completely inexperienced with AMD's CPUs, especially the lower end ones, so I could just be flat-out wrong.

 

Worst comes to worst, I'll find him a deal on good motherboard and a Pentium G4400 or i3-6100. Thanks for letting me know that this could be an issue!

[-rascal-]

The A6-3650 is a first generation AMD APU on the socket FM1 platform -- in other words, a ~2012 chip.

I used to own an A6-3670K (unlocked multiplier version of the A6-3650).

 

When you install a graphics card (GTX 1050Ti) into the PCI-Express slot, the motherboard should automatically disable the iGPU.

Just make sure you connect the monitor cable to the back of the GTX 1050Ti, and NOT to the back of the motherboard.

 

You may need to uninstall the graphics drivers first before install the nVIDIA dirvers for the GTX 1050Ti.

When you do so, select CUSTOM uninstallation.

The motherboard's Southbridge chipset drivers (SMBus Drivers) are usually included in the graphics driver package.

 

As @Dabombinable mentioned, it may be a good idea to give that A6-3650 an overclock if possible to relieve from bottleneck.

Those chips come stock at 2.6 GHz...and a very mediocre stock heatsink (all aluminum, no copper core or heatpipes).

You should be able to pull 2.8 GHz ~ 3.0 GHz with the stock cooler...and 3.2+ GHz if cooling is better.

 

At the time, I had the A6-3670K (stock 2.7 GHz) overclock to 3.2 GHz / 3.4 GHz, Gigabyte GA-A75-D3H motherboard, with a Radeon HD 7950 (Same HD 7950 in my Z97 Intel system -- shown in my signature), AND there WAS definitely some bottleneck with even CS:GO. FPS wise, if I recall correctly, it was still above ~100 FPS, but it was certainly not getting the 250+ FPS my i5-4690K gets.

[Dabombinable]

53 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

The A6-3650 is a first generation AMD APU on the socket FM1 platform -- in other words, a ~2012 chip.

I used to own an A6-3670K (unlocked multiplier version of the A6-3650).

 

When you install a graphics card (GTX 1050Ti) into the PCI-Express slot, the motherboard should automatically disable the iGPU.

Just make sure you connect the monitor cable to the back of the GTX 1050Ti, and NOT to the back of the motherboard.

 

You may need to uninstall the graphics drivers first before install the nVIDIA dirvers for the GTX 1050Ti.

When you do so, select CUSTOM uninstallation.

The motherboard's Southbridge chipset drivers (SMBus Drivers) are usually included in the graphics driver package.

 

As @Dabombinable mentioned, it may be a good idea to give that A6-3650 an overclock if possible to relieve from bottleneck.

Those chips come stock at 2.6 GHz...and a very mediocre stock heatsink (all aluminum, no copper core or heatpipes).

You should be able to pull 2.8 GHz ~ 3.0 GHz with the stock cooler...and 3.2+ GHz if cooling is better.

 

At the time, I had the A6-3670K (stock 2.7 GHz) overclock to 3.2 GHz / 3.4 GHz, Gigabyte GA-A75-D3H motherboard, with a Radeon HD 7950 (Same HD 7950 in my Z97 Intel system -- shown in my signature), AND there WAS definitely some bottleneck with even CS:GO. FPS wise, if I recall correctly, it was still above ~100 FPS, but it was certainly not getting the 250+ FPS my i5-4690K gets.

There are Athlon II X4 6** that could be used as upgrades, but with the fastest being 3GHz, its kind of pointless. On the plus side, they are based on K10-just shrunk down to 32nm, so they don't TDP throttle or have issues performance the way Bulldozer and later APU do (A8 4555M suuuuck compared to anything K10 based).