Facebook Removes Beheading Video

[SethAFitzgerald]

FULL STORY: http://tgbuzz.com/facebook-beheading-video-removed-content-policies-scrutinized-181/

 

In the name of free expression, Facebook allowed a video of someone being beheaded to stay up on its network despite outrage from users. As the outrage increased, the social network decided to take down the video and is now looking at its content policies with the intent of making them stricter. 

 

 

Do you think that videos of this nature should be allowed on Facebook? And, where is the line drawn in terms of "promoting" or "condemning" these activities?

[megadarkwood]

Hey, you added your own opinion

[qwertywarrior]

people will start raging about censorship and freedom of speech

even if it doesn't meet the criteria

[Howies]

I was one of those people who reported the video. i dont want to be looking at photos of my nephew and then scroll down and see two mexicans being beheaded

[Matsy]

Why would anything even think allowing that sort of thing ANYWHERE is ok?

[Mooshi]

Beheading videos are a yawn-fest for anyone that's been on the internet longer than a year. Zit popping vids, though...those are disgusting.

 

 

Do you think that videos of this nature should be allowed on Facebook?

 

I think the majority of people on Facebook are idiots who shouldn't be allowed to have an account, let alone begin to comment on the content.

[LAwLz]

If the ToS allows it (which it seems like it does) then they should not have removed it. No rules were broken, so why was it removed? Because a lot of people found it disgusting? Well a lot of people find homosexuality disgusting, but I don't see people saying all pictures and videos on Facebook showing homosexuality (hell even glorifying and/or promote it) should be removed.

David Cameron's comment about "protecting children" really gets on my nerves as well. "Protect children" has become a new way of saying "I don't like it, so remove it". So, will news reports showing people being killed get removed next? I think this is a slippery slope. You should not limit freedom of speech if it doesn't break the law or any other rules, just because you find it disgusting.

[KaareKanin]

I don't think this has anything to do with censorship. I'm pretty sure videos like that go against the rules of what you are allowed to post

[beebskadoo]

Facebook needs to just die in a fire...

[Ookami]

Whats Facebook?

[nicehat]

No.... I dont think their point is any more strong by seeing a graphic clip. Facebook is no place for that. Free speech or no, they as a company, have social responsibilities, and this is socially unacceptable by western standards. 

[totjup5]

Good. If they didn't remove that I would be appalled. Besides, it is not a violation of freedom of speech/expression because Facebook has the right to say what can and cannot be posted on its site.

[LAwLz]

I don't think this has anything to do with censorship. I'm pretty sure videos like that go against the rules of what you are allowed to post

Good. If they didn't remove that I would be appalled. Besides, it is not a violation of freedom of speech/expression because Facebook has the right to say what can and cannot be posted on its site.

Well it seems like Facebook did think it was OK. Nothing in the rules says you're not allowed to post a video like that. The reason why they removed it was because people complained. Facebook thought it was OK (since you know, their TOS allows it, and so does all US laws, and they didn't delete it until a ton of people whined about it), but a lot of people didn't, so it got removed. I think it's silly that it got removed. Is a video of someone having their head cut off disgusting? Yes. Should content be removed simply because a lot of users don't like it even though it doesn't break any rules or laws? No.

[piplupgao]

Yet another reason to not use facebook

[HaZardousLP]

I'm not sure which video this is referring to because I know of a couple, but it was not something I wanted to see on my newsfeed. I called the bluff on it being fake and it certainly wasn't... Facebook isn't where you should be finding these videos, there's corners of the Internet for that.

[Bingbing10]

My mate made me watch it yesterday but the worse thing,was that I was drinking a raspberry smoothie at the time

[ofr057]

gore belongs on liveleak ... its perfectly fine there because you know what to expect, people on facebook just expect photos of food and cleavage

[Mooshi]

gore belongs on liveleak ... its perfectly fine there because you know what to expect, people on facebook just expect photos of food and cleavage

 

Liveleak hasn't be relevant in a long time. Some of the videos uploaded are stupid things that are more suitable for Youtube.

[Ineko]

If the ToS allows it (which it seems like it does) then they should not have removed it. No rules were broken, so why was it removed? Because a lot of people found it disgusting? Well a lot of people find homosexuality disgusting, but I don't see people saying all pictures and videos on Facebook showing homosexuality (hell even glorifying and/or promote it) should be removed.

David Cameron's comment about "protecting children" really gets on my nerves as well. "Protect children" has become a new way of saying "I don't like it, so remove it". So, will news reports showing people being killed get removed next? I think this is a slippery slope. You should not limit freedom of speech if it doesn't break the law or any other rules, just because you find it disgusting.

 

There's a difference between ignorant people thinking homosexual content is disgusting and a barbaric beheading. No it's not about protecting the children, it's about not having videos of people having their heads removed whilst alive (or dead) with a small knife on our walls.

[IdeaStormer]

Why would anything even think allowing that sort of thing ANYWHERE is ok?

 

Agh, you haven't looked outside the typical websites have you?

 

Does anyone have the link to the downloaded copy of it? PM if you don't want it out on the open. Tx

[SethAFitzgerald]

Agh, you haven't looked outside the typical websites have you?

 

Does anyone have the link to the downloaded copy of it? PM if you don't want it out on the open. Tx

Why would you want a copy of it?

[LAwLz]

There's a difference between ignorant people thinking homosexual content is disgusting and a barbaric beheading. No it's not about protecting the children, it's about not having videos of people having their heads removed whilst alive (or dead) with a small knife on our walls.

Before I start I just want to be 100% clear that I am totally OK with homosexuals and don't think there is anything wrong or disgusting about it. With that being said, the people who do think it is wrong will think people like you and me are ignorant. You can't just go "well they are ignorant so their opinion is wrong" when the opposite side thinks exactly the same. I didn't see the video so I am not sure how bad it was, but news reports shows people being killed as well. Should they be removed from Facebook as well? The law and Facebook TOS both allow content like this to be posted. Why was the content removed if it didn't break any rules? I am not saying that things like this should be posted on Facebook, but if it doesn't break any rules then it should not be removed if someone posts it. Facebook didn't follow its own rules which is what annoys me. Don't pretend like you are open and everyone can post whatever they want if you're then going to remove content which people don't like.

 

A vocal group of people should not be allowed to ban perfectly legal content which doesn't break any rules, just because that group doesn't like what is being posted. If Facebook don't want content like that on their site then they should change their rules. I am not sure how the Facebook feed works but doesn't one of your friend have to like, or comment, or repost or whatever to make items appear in your feed? I mean, a video like this doesn't just appear in your feed all by itself, right? Kind of shows how broken Facebook's feed system is, where everything your friends does gets mixed.

[Wulfgar]

I've seen all the beheading/ 2 guys 1 screwdriver/spacedicks/4chan type stuff and as desensitized as I am, I don't believe these posts should be allowed on Facebook. It's their right to remove what they want regardless, but children can be seeing it and become traumatized. Not good.

[Stonep11]

If the ToS allows it (which it seems like it does) then they should not have removed it. No rules were broken, so why was it removed? Because a lot of people found it disgusting? Well a lot of people find homosexuality disgusting, but I don't see people saying all pictures and videos on Facebook showing homosexuality (hell even glorifying and/or promote it) should be removed.

David Cameron's comment about "protecting children" really gets on my nerves as well. "Protect children" has become a new way of saying "I don't like it, so remove it". So, will news reports showing people being killed get removed next? I think this is a slippery slope. You should not limit freedom of speech if it doesn't break the law or any other rules, just because you find it disgusting.

Protect the children bugs me too. I think that should only apply to things children cannot avoid seeing like adds or daytime TV, if channel there had hardcore porn @ 3 in the afternoon, that would be unacceptable, but 3 AM? Kids should be asleep. If they are on the internet, than their parents let them do that and they should moniter what they look at. I think protect the children has really become "that's my responsibility to deal with as a parent, but I really don't want to do it so I'll complain that someone else should"

[Wulfgar]

Protect the children bugs me too. I think that should only apply to things children cannot avoid seeing like adds or daytime TV, if channel there had hardcore porn @ 3 in the afternoon, that would be unacceptable, but 3 AM? Kids should be asleep. If they are on the internet, than their parents let them do that and they should moniter what they look at. I think protect the children has really become "that's my responsibility to deal with as a parent, but I really don't want to do it so I'll complain that someone else should"

 

Yeah it's mostly the parent's responsibility. You do have to admit, though, that children can be incredibly crafty and determined to see/experience that which is taboo, so at times even the best of adult figures can't prevent a kid from seeing something as traumatic as a beheading.