Best 1080p 144hz monitor?

[c0d0ps]

I mainly play Overwatch, my pc specs are in the description. I might upgrade my gpu after I have sold my old parts (recently upgraded to Skylake).
I haven't set a budget yet but I guess around 300 euros should be enough?
I live in Sweden.

http://www.prisjakt.nu/list.php?l=3208011&view=l

I am buying one monitor and these choices is what I have chosen so far.

Most people (2/4 I think) seem to like the Asus VG248QE.

 

What do you think I should buy?

 

1080p

144hz

gaming

low response time

[Oshino Shinobu]

BenQ XL2411Z and Asus MG248Q would be my choices. 

[elbarto.2]

I personally use the BenQ XL2411Z.  It's about 280 USD, so about 260 euros.  It's really bright, has IPS, nvidia 3D Vision, and a ton of other cool features.  It also has a 1ms response time.  I would highly recommend this product to anyone looking for good 1080p gaming.

[Antoon45]

6 hours ago, elbarto2003 said:

I personally use the BenQ XL2411Z.  It's about 280 USD, so about 260 euros.  It's really bright, has IPS, nvidia 3D Vision, and a ton of other cool features.  It also has a 1ms response time.  I would highly recommend this product to anyone looking for good 1080p gaming.

BenQ XL2411Z is not an IPS monitor, IPS monitors have 4-5ms and TN panels is 1-2ms 

[FRN]

7 hours ago, c0d0ps said:

I mainly play Overwatch, my pc specs are in the description. I might upgrade my gpu after I have sold my old parts (recently upgraded to Skylake).
I haven't set a budget yet but I guess around 300 euros should be enough?
I live in Sweden.

http://www.prisjakt.nu/list.php?l=3208011&view=l

I am buying one monitor and these choices is what I have chosen so far.

Most people (2/4 I think) seem to like the Asus VG248QE.

 

What do you think I should buy?

 

1080p

144hz

gaming

low response time

Useless for an R9 280X. Just get a freesync monitor and save money. You wont get the performance your monitor can do with the GPU you have. unless you have a GTX 1060 or 1070, the asus monitor you have is ideal.

[The Belgian Waffle]

1 hour ago, FRN said:

Useless for an R9 280X. Just get a freesync monitor and save money. You wont get the performance your monitor can do with the GPU you have. unless you have a GTX 1060 or 1070, the asus monitor you have is ideal.

 

8 hours ago, c0d0ps said:

I might upgrade my gpu after I have sold my old parts

You're welcome

[FRN]

2 minutes ago, The Belgian Waffle said:

 

You're welcome

TL;DR

[Lays]

1 hour ago, FRN said:

Useless for an R9 280X. Just get a freesync monitor and save money. You wont get the performance your monitor can do with the GPU you have. unless you have a GTX 1060 or 1070, the asus monitor you have is ideal.

He said he mostly plays overwatch, overwatch really isn't hard to run lol. He should be able to get a constant 100+ fps at 1080p no problem with medium/low settings. 

[Thony]

There are really only two choices for u and both have been mentioned. Most EU streamers use Benq XL2411Z to begin with since its great for what it is, Asus variant is more popular in US, for example Summit uses it (its in his twitch specs info).

 

I was personally worried about the colours since they are both  "cheap" TN panels so I decided to step it up a tier and get XL2430T.  But if all u have had so far was TN panels (no IPS) then u wont complain about XL2411Z.

 

144Hz is amazing for Online FPS games ! Much needed I would say.

[elbarto.2]

On October 21, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Antoon45 said:

BenQ XL2411Z is not an IPS monitor, IPS monitors have 4-5ms and TN panels is 1-2ms 

Oops 

[MxZeal]

On 10/20/2016 at 8:08 PM, Oshino Shinobu said:

BenQ XL2411Z and Asus MG248Q would be my choices. 

I'm debating on the ASUS MG248Q or BenQ XL2430T or ViewSonic XG2401 

 

 

Both the benQ and viewsonic have better contract ratios than the asus but i like how the asus looks (its not red and has thin bezels) but it's really hard deciding on which of these without seeing the colors for myself... idk.

[c0d0ps]

On 2016-10-21 at 11:43 AM, Thony said:

There are really only two choices for u and both have been mentioned. Most EU streamers use Benq XL2411Z to begin with since its great for what it is, Asus variant is more popular in US, for example Summit uses it (its in his twitch specs info).

 

I was personally worried about the colours since they are both  "cheap" TN panels so I decided to step it up a tier and get XL2430T.  But if all u have had so far was TN panels (no IPS) then u wont complain about XL2411Z.

 

144Hz is amazing for Online FPS games ! Much needed I would say.

I ordered the Asus MG248Q because it has so high rating and pretty good reviews. I I think it has freesync :3

On 2016-10-21 at 9:14 AM, FRN said:

Useless for an R9 280X. Just get a freesync monitor and save money. You wont get the performance your monitor can do with the GPU you have. unless you have a GTX 1060 or 1070, the asus monitor you have is ideal.

I am playing Overwatch with most settings on epic (except the useless intensive settings like local fog detail and dynamic reflections.
I have a cap on 120 fps and I feel like the game is running pretty smoothly.

 

Freesync is not supported for 280x only 285. However,I will probably upgrade gpu this year. To a more modern gpu, lower noise, temp and better peformance sounds pretty good to me.

[Falkentyne]

Benq XL2720Z would be my choice.

 

"Pixels" (which you can't see) on a 27" 1080p are completely mitigated by moving it back from your screen relative to a 24" to keep the panel size at the same perspective.  Plus unlike the XL2411Z, you get the following:

 

1) displayport connector; no need to use pixel clock patchers for blur reduction VT tweaks (there have been HW Acceleration issues when using the clock patchers in the past, though this may have been resolved).

2) no gamma degradation at higher refresh rates or color degradation.  This was a serious issue in all of the AUO 24" 1080p panels using the m240HW01 v8 panel, and even the OSD gamma settings won't change the slight color balance differences from low to high refresh.

3) S-switch without buggy gamer presets (a HUGE Problem in the XL2430T.  the XL2420Z was also bug free with this but this was discontinued in favor of the buggy XL2430T).

4) perfect overdrive balance if blur reduction is disabled, but this requires exploiting an obscure firmware bug, or rather combining an undocumented "feature" with a bug.  Blur reduction inverse artifacts from too aggressive AMA high can be reduced significantly from inverse ghosting into normal ghosting by setting AMA to high after turning on blur reduction, but in some cases, the added normal ghosting can look worse than the overshoot from inverse ghosting, depending on the backgrounds.  This can be mitigated by dropping the contrast down to 0-10, but it's a shame to have to use such a low contrast to get decent ghosting performance.  The "Bug" with blur reduction disabled involves doing this AMA toggle and then switching into a picture mode preset that has blur reduction already disabled, instead of using the OSD to disable blur reduction.

 

The XL2411Z (and the XL2420Z) also benefit from this toggle, but the AMA isn't reduced as much when doing it.  Trying to "bug" the profile to blur reduction off to apply it, improves the overdrive still nicely, but still keeps some inverse ghosting, unlike the XL2720Z.  The 'profile switch to MBR off' reducing MBR off's AMA also works on the XL2430T, but not toggling AMA when MBR is on.

The main issue with the XL2411Z is the gamma degradation from the 24" TN panels as refresh rate is increased, missing S-switch.

[c0d0ps]

13 hours ago, Falkentyne said:

Benq XL2720Z would be my choice.

 

"Pixels" (which you can't see) on a 27" 1080p are completely mitigated by moving it back from your screen relative to a 24" to keep the panel size at the same perspective.  Plus unlike the XL2411Z, you get the following:

 

1) displayport connector; no need to use pixel clock patchers for blur reduction VT tweaks (there have been HW Acceleration issues when using the clock patchers in the past, though this may have been resolved).

2) no gamma degradation at higher refresh rates or color degradation.  This was a serious issue in all of the AUO 24" 1080p panels using the m240HW01 v8 panel, and even the OSD gamma settings won't change the slight color balance differences from low to high refresh.

3) S-switch without buggy gamer presets (a HUGE Problem in the XL2430T.  the XL2420Z was also bug free with this but this was discontinued in favor of the buggy XL2430T).

4) perfect overdrive balance if blur reduction is disabled, but this requires exploiting an obscure firmware bug, or rather combining an undocumented "feature" with a bug.  Blur reduction inverse artifacts from too aggressive AMA high can be reduced significantly from inverse ghosting into normal ghosting by setting AMA to high after turning on blur reduction, but in some cases, the added normal ghosting can look worse than the overshoot from inverse ghosting, depending on the backgrounds.  This can be mitigated by dropping the contrast down to 0-10, but it's a shame to have to use such a low contrast to get decent ghosting performance.  The "Bug" with blur reduction disabled involves doing this AMA toggle and then switching into a picture mode preset that has blur reduction already disabled, instead of using the OSD to disable blur reduction.

 

The XL2411Z (and the XL2420Z) also benefit from this toggle, but the AMA isn't reduced as much when doing it.  Trying to "bug" the profile to blur reduction off to apply it, improves the overdrive still nicely, but still keeps some inverse ghosting, unlike the XL2720Z.  The 'profile switch to MBR off' reducing MBR off's AMA also works on the XL2430T, but not toggling AMA when MBR is on.

The main issue with the XL2411Z is the gamma degradation from the 24" TN panels as refresh rate is increased, missing S-switch.

I have already ordered the Asus MG248Q but your choice sounds and looks good. It has good reviews and high rating.

I do not think it is worth cancelling an (already sent out) order unless what you suggested is something extraordinarily good  Also it costs more :c